Real World Benefits - Win8 v's Win7

Windows 8 would be something i'd use if they made a non metro-UI edition for desktops.. i'm liking the under the hood improvements to startup, shutdown times and also to the file system and relative performance, but i feel like they screwed the pooch with force feeding a touch UI into the destop non touch versions of the OS...

MS seriously needs to make a non Metro UI edition for desktops and the enterprise, i don't see businesses migrating to the I-touch interface on their non touch workstations...

Other than that, i'm looking forward to getting an ultrabook that takes advantage of the Metro UI.. but i seriously don't know what the were thinking into shoehorning the same thing into desktops and non touch notebooks...
 

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Shan't be touching it with a proverbial bargepole... it's absolute rubbish! :sarc:

Made for idiots, by (apparently) idiots...

Just look back at the number of imperfections Microsoft have left in other programs and archive systems, for instance the way that their eMail clients archives get screwed up and require repairing, look at the ridiculous voice recognition features... and I could go on... there are so many imperfections which still need simply sorting out that I feel it's about time they tried walking before they attempt to continue to run...

They need to offer an installer that allows already disillusioned users to CHOOSE whether they're installing it on a desktop which is controlled by a pointing device, or a touch screen etch-a-sketch box of whatever nature...

IMHO there are too many editions of Windows already, they ought to have made Home Premium the minimum, and Ultimate the deluxe, forgetting everything else. Microsoft could find themselves trailing behind others if only the various Linux factions could manage to produce a solid and popular OS in the interim, or Apple were to change its policy about installing OS X on third party hardware...

As it seems to be evolving it looks to me it'll not be successful in the desktop market, and that tablet users will prefer cheaper OS options and won't swallow the premiums that M$ will be adding to the cost of their fashionably fickle touch screens...

Reminds me of Vista all over again, only this time more profoundly so :zip:
 

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Agreed

Just look back at the number of imperfections Microsoft have left in other programs and archive systems, for instance the way that their eMail clients archives get screwed up and require repairing, look at the ridiculous voice recognition features... and I could go on... there are so many imperfections which still need simply sorting out that I feel it's about time they tried walking before they attempt to continue to run...

They need to offer an installer that allows already disillusioned users to CHOOSE whether they're installing it on a desktop which is controlled by a pointing device, or a touch screen etch-a-sketch box of whatever nature...

Agreed 100%.

Microsoft could find themselves trailing behind others if only the various Linux factions could manage to produce a solid and popular OS in the interim, or Apple were to change its policy about installing OS X on third party hardware...

If the Linux factions could stop fighting amongst themselves, over who's going to be "top dog" (like the Australian Labor Party) they could make serious market share gains.

A Linux distro skinned up and slightly modified, to make it seem to work like W7, would probably be a big hit with disgruntled MS users.
Linux7?

As it seems to be evolving it looks to me it'll not be successful in the desktop market, and that tablet users will prefer cheaper OS options and won't swallow the premiums that M$ will be adding to the cost of their fashionably fickle touch screens...

Reminds me of Vista all over again, only this time more profoundly so :zip:

The phone and tablet markets are already out of Microsoft's reach.
"iDevice" users won't swap to Windows and I suspect the same is true for Android users.

MS could have sown up the tablet market years ago.
How long have MS tablets been around?
Since XP?
 

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Its just a Start page. Hit the win key or click the Desktop icon and you are in your Desktop. They made the Start button open a page instead of just a small area. Now you have lot of room to pin what you want.

Jim :cool:
 

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I see the logic: To expose the Start page to push buttons, it needs to come first.

Updates delivered a driver for my Linksys wireless card silently, without cuing in optional Updates first. I suddenly notice I had two wireless connections, unplugged the Linksys stick and connected the card. Nice.
 
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There can be two types of programs on the Start page. Normal programs that open with the Desktop and those that open in the Cloud. No need to open the Desktop if you are going to the Cloud. So they start you off with the Start page.

Jim :cool:
 

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