ReBoot Time [2]

[earled]

nope he said boots from being off. I call BS

 

[paulpicks21]

A reboot will take longer than a boot, so I will say 10 seconds is certainly possible.

Paul

 

[earled]

really. Im surprised. Seems very fast. Must have some seriously nice Hardware to do that.

I have a samsung 840pro ssd in my laptop Samsung i7 and my reboot is 21 sec.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

someone posted on another forum that his PC boots in 10 sec. Is this possible? I LOL when I read that, thinking he exaggerated abit.

Well on this machine I ma on now - a Toshiba laptop four years old I am trying out 8 as an upgrade and I have it starting up with a desktop view after login just like 7 (using Stardock8) it boots from cold in max 6 seconds and shuts down in max 1 second. Nothing fancy under the bonnet an i5 430M and 8GB 1333 RAM although it does have a SanDisk Extreme SSD. Even so before it used to boot in 30 seconds and close in around 20 seconds.
Summary
Power on > Metro tower screen > touch the spacebar > login page 6 seconds > 1 second > desktop.

I am very curious as to what is going to happen when I try this out on my Sandy bridge which has much better specs hardware wise. But at the moment to all intents and purpose I am just using it as per Windows 7

 

[A Guy]

really. Im surprised. Seems very fast. Must have some seriously nice Hardware to do that.

I have a samsung 840pro ssd in my laptop Samsung i7 and my reboot is 21 sec.

Maybe it was Windows 8?

A Guy

 

[ICIT2LOL]

You may be right Bill I tried a reboot last night (that laptop with 8) with several open tabs and email plus a Speccy running and my reboot was 20 secs as opposed to the 5 sec start up the shut down though is still almost instantaneous.

 

[Britton30]

I think it's mostly due to the Z87 Deluxe board, it spend less time fricking around in POSTing. It also has a "Fast boot" option which I used too. I think I can do better by turning off some USB initializing too. Of course I'll post if I get a lower time.

Gary what app are you using to get that readout please? Cos my Ivy takes forever in that POST bit too. But I only have the Z77-V board though.

From Shawn's tutorial here: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/720-restart-time.html

This one will tell you how long you beast takes to reboot.

View attachment Restart Time.vbs

 

[alan10]

A cold start takes time doing things which a Reboot omits.

After a prolonged shut-down all the hardware is ready for hardware initialisation upon startup,
and amongst other things :-
my WDC HDD has a "spinup time" of 5.1 seconds, and becomes disk 0;
my Samsung HDD has a "spinup time" of 8.1 seconds, and becomes disk 1;
my OCZ SSD never spins and takes much longer doing whatever SSD's have to do before they are ready for Windows to enumerate and call this thing Disk 2.

A Reboot never extinguishes the "running lights" and there is no general hardware reset on all hardware that needs it.
With Windows 7 the result of a Reboot is that the SSD is "enumerated" a bit quicker and becomes either Disk 1 or Disk 0 and the HDD's make way for it, which confuses the totals and averages produced by HDS when monitoring total reads and writes.
Some years before Windows 95 I had a PC with a serial interface card,
and sometimes the card would crash a a Reboot never fixed it, it only recovered after a shutdown.

A prolonged delay between Power on and Windows 7 launching is something else,
with perhaps a 2% probability that flaky enumeration may introduce a race hazard,
and Windows confused my GPT style 600 GB WDC HDD with my MBR style 930 GB Samsung HDD,
and thought that they both had the same Disk ID (which is illegal),
so Windows stupidly knocked my MBR style HDD "offline" and then "fixed" my GPT style HDD as an MBR style and wrote a new MBR style Disk ID.
Essential partitions and folders on the Samsung HDD were "offline" and unusable.
Download and archive partitions and folders on the WDC HDD all became RAW DATA.

Windows 7 does not give me daily BSOD's like early versions of Windows,
but when it goes wrong it is more disastrous.

Sorry for the rant,
but Microsoft's KB acknowledging that SATA disk numbering is something they never got right and will never fix has really annoyed me.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Alan mate send us a shot of the Disk Management so we can see what you have got.

 

[alan10]

One shot attached.

Originally I looked for a way to change the disk ID from an MBR number to a GPT GUID,
but nothing that was safe worked for me,
and I fear that if I force a GPT format on the drive this would destroy all data.

As you can see, Disk 0 is now showing chunks of Free Space and Unallocated.
Disk Management originally showed chunks of RAW,
but this was before I changed the Disk 0 status from "online" to "offline" as a "write protect" measure.
Windows properties STUPIDLY declare :-
The Device is working Properly,
and
Partition Style Master Boot Record (MBR)

I "write protected" the disk before I unleashed "Data Recovery" utilities on the problem.
I determined that I would NOT allow any of them to modify the contents of the disk,
but did not trust them to obey my wishes.

Over 60% of 400+ GByte of data was Macrium Partition image backup files,
and all but the most recent one had been copied to an external backup,
and although I really do not need that particular backup,
it was a matter of personal honour that I recover it.

None of the freeware solutions could detect any files on the Disk

Then I tried a $69 professional solution which rescued this 400+ GB of data.
Unfortunately the "crucial" latest backup failed validation so I tried more freeware.
I estimate that this particular 6 GB file had been saved onto very second hand free space,
and as a result the 6 GB was probably in 200 fragments,
and obviously one or more fragments was assembled in the wrong order so that MD5 hash checksums rejected as invalid.

I looked at more freeware

I am happy to say that all my 400+ GB of data was rescued AND VALIDATED perfectly with the freeware
Lazesoft Recovery Suite Free, Free Windows System Recovery, Free Data Recovery, Free Windows Password Recovery, Free Disk Clone

I intend very soon to post my testimony for Lazesoft in
http://www.sevenforums.com/software/215829-free-great-programs-windows-7-2-a-9.html

Regards
Alan

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Hmm Alan as a matter of personal choice I never use the miracle fix programs mate they cause more problems than they are worth. It might be worth finding out from the others what their thoughts on that software.

Now the shot of your disk management looks beyond me mate how did all those partitions come about?? It doe s look like a right pickle, and just what is on the active partitions??

 

[alan10]

There is only one active partition, system Reserved, it is 100 MB at the start of Disk 2, the SSD, used for booting Win 7.
Disk 1 has System Reserved, NOT active, part of Windows 7 before I had an SSD.

My WDC HDD had one dozen partitions before Windows trashed its GPT status,
and only the first two chunks correspond to original reality when I first restored a Macrium image of Disc 1 Windows 7 onto Disc 0 to satisfy myself that my Boot Recovery CD had adequate drivers for writing to my hardware - I did not want to wipe out my Disc 1 working installation with a recovery process that I feared could be as unreliable as Acronis.

The other three chunks on Disk 0 are entirely Windows stupidity that it is using a MBR partition table and Extended partition table that never existed when the drive was good. Windows has created a work of fiction.

It is worthy of note that my 930 GB Disk 1 started with 2 partitions without drive letters that were my 25 GB install of Windows before I had an SSD,
and Partitions D:\ and H:\ which totalled 15 GB.
After Disk 0 was trashed I created many more partitions for recovery of data from what Lazesoft recognised as one dozen GPT partitions

I am fully with you
"that as a matter of personal choice I never use the miracle fix programs that cause more problems than they are worth".
UNFORTUNATELY most of the applications that I am familiar with will only run under the horrendous "miracle fix program" that is Windows.
There are many other people that prefer Linux.
So far as I am concerned the rot set in when IBM chose that the IBM PC would use DOS instead of the superior CPM.

If however you consider Lazesoft to be an untrustworthy "Miracle Fix Program" then,
with all due respect you could not be more wrong.
I do not use Lazesoft as my GOTO "Miracle Fix Program" for each and every disaster,
and as something to use in place of a reliable, dependable, backup procedure.
But I find it priceless when the backup procedure falters.

I use Macrium Reflect to create and validate image backup files on the secondary HDD (Disk 0),
and I subsequently connect to an external eSATA HDD and use Teracopy to copy those files from Disk 0,
and to perform hash checksum validation of copying to ensure integrity.
I once suffered 50% corrupted "duplicates" when using Windows Explorer copy to an USB2 external.
My external drive is ONLY connected when I need it,
so as to protect its integrity against a Power Surge that destroys the computer;
or yet another Windows disaster that ruins everything it can touch.

NB so far as the thoughts of other people are concerned, there are quite a few other people that are more than satisfied with Lazesoft,
and I only tried it because someone on the GAOTD site recommended this a superior alternative to the Data Recovery software that was on offer that day.

Regards
Alan

 

[aritra2116]

Here is my worse reboot time.

 

[Strontium]

nope he said boots from being off. I call BS

Lol, you can find earlier W7 reboot times here.

Using UEFI (no CSM) BIOS can post in less than 2 seconds, add to that a MainPathBootTime of ~3.2 seconds and boot times can be fairly quick.

An example of BIOS initialization with W7 and UEFI using the Windows Assessment Console

 

[Britton30]

This thread is for bragging about fast restart times, not problem solving.

 

[Strontium]

Oh I see, my bad. I'll just post the W7 reboot time from that link then and leave it at that.

 

[aritra2116]

Strontium, you hit the world record!

 

[ICIT2LOL]

There is only one active partition, system Reserved, it is 100 MB at the start of Disk 2, the SSD, used for booting Win 7.
Disk 1 has System Reserved, NOT active, part of Windows 7 before I had an SSD.

My WDC HDD had one dozen partitions before Windows trashed its GPT status,
and only the first two chunks correspond to original reality when I first restored a Macrium image of Disc 1 Windows 7 onto Disc 0 to satisfy myself that my Boot Recovery CD had adequate drivers for writing to my hardware - I did not want to wipe out my Disc 1 working installation with a recovery process that I feared could be as unreliable as Acronis.

The other three chunks on Disk 0 are entirely Windows stupidity that it is using a MBR partition table and Extended partition table that never existed when the drive was good. Windows has created a work of fiction.

It is worthy of note that my 930 GB Disk 1 started with 2 partitions without drive letters that were my 25 GB install of Windows before I had an SSD,
and Partitions D:\ and H:\ which totalled 15 GB.
After Disk 0 was trashed I created many more partitions for recovery of data from what Lazesoft recognised as one dozen GPT partitions

I am fully with you
"that as a matter of personal choice I never use the miracle fix programs that cause more problems than they are worth".
UNFORTUNATELY most of the applications that I am familiar with will only run under the horrendous "miracle fix program" that is Windows.
There are many other people that prefer Linux.
So far as I am concerned the rot set in when IBM chose that the IBM PC would use DOS instead of the superior CPM.

If however you consider Lazesoft to be an untrustworthy "Miracle Fix Program" then,
with all due respect you could not be more wrong.
I do not use Lazesoft as my GOTO "Miracle Fix Program" for each and every disaster,
and as something to use in place of a reliable, dependable, backup procedure.
But I find it priceless when the backup procedure falters.

I use Macrium Reflect to create and validate image backup files on the secondary HDD (Disk 0),
and I subsequently connect to an external eSATA HDD and use Teracopy to copy those files from Disk 0,
and to perform hash checksum validation of copying to ensure integrity.
I once suffered 50% corrupted "duplicates" when using Windows Explorer copy to an USB2 external.
My external drive is ONLY connected when I need it,
so as to protect its integrity against a Power Surge that destroys the computer;
or yet another Windows disaster that ruins everything it can touch.

NB so far as the thoughts of other people are concerned, there are quite a few other people that are more than satisfied with Lazesoft,
and I only tried it because someone on the GAOTD site recommended this a superior alternative to the Data Recovery software that was on offer that day.

Regards
Alan

No worries Alan I don't doubt Lazesoft is good I was sorta generalising really and not targetting Lazesoft. I was referring more to heaps of those reg cleaners and performance enhancing crapware that a lot of folk use and wreck the machine with they are usually free and the one you use I think you said you paid for which if right gives you some comeback.
If you want a really good partitioning tool and I use it a lot for just that and testing drives etc etc is Partition Wizard free and is used a lot by others in here. Best Free Partition Manager Freeware and free partition magic for Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows Vista and Windows XP 32 bit & 64 bit. MiniTool Free Partition Manager Software Home Edition.


Sorry Gary I didn't mean to take over and should have referred Alan to make another thread

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Hmm a bit of a slouch is Ivy she takes 38 seconds to reboot

 

[paulpicks21]

Here is my worse reboot time.

Looks pretty miserable to me mate