Refurbisher who actually restores to excellent working condition

Janesdf

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Recently, my Win 7 Home Premium laptop became inoperable (long story), so I bought a refurbished Win 7 (has to be Win 7 as Win 8/8.1 for non-touch, for me, was a nightmare and I refuse to re-live it. If it worked for you great, but it didn't for me) Pro laptop (different model and manufacturer than my previous one) from a MS Certified Refurbisher with very high positive ratings at a good price, excellent return policy, one year warranty and GUARANTEED to work properly. From my first use, one problem after another. Win 7 Pro not properly installed, would boot to Boot Manager instead of desktop every single time, numerous error codes when trying to download updates, and finally, the board for the wireless connection died. My other wifi connected items worked and connected with no problems. All of this within three days (including the day I received it). I explained all to the seller/refurbisher and was sent a prepaid return label with rma and a prompt refund.

Not deterred, I decided to buy from a different refurbisher, different model Win 7 Pro laptop, and that worked great, for ONE day. It became so slow that instead of seconds to download or open pages, it took 5-7 minutes to open pages. For the next download of MS updates, 216 of them, literally, 9 hours later, only 164 had been downloaded (not installed, just download). For previous pc's I've owned, it took just minutes to download and install even more updates. By the way, my WiFi connection was up and working fine. Returned that, received a prepaid label, rma and prompt refund.

Third time, after checking the reviews, I bought a brand new desktop, small form factor, also Win 7 Pro. Straight out of the box, numerous error codes when trying to download updates, though pc showed wifi was connected, pages would not load. During these experiences, and now, I was using my Kindle Fire to access the internet for possible solutions, none of which worked for the laptops and new desktop. I also contacted the manufacturer's tech support for the new desktop and they determined it was defective and to return it. The seller is balking on a prepaid label, but because I bought it through Amazon, they have agreed to help if the seller (3rd party) won't.

Due to all of this, my Kindle Fire, which I primarily used for reading and apps has been great and I am impressed. However, I really need a desktop or laptop in excellent working condition as I am self employed which requires a lot of time online and quite a bit of word processing and printing.

My previous desktops, bought brand new, never had these problems. They always lasted a minimum of 5 years which is why I'm leaning more towards another desktop, but will consider a laptop.

By the way, these last three were Win 7 PRO, not Home Premium which was problem-free.

I'm willing to try another refurbisher, but would like references on refurbishers who actually do restore a desktop or laptop to excellent working condition without paying the same price as a new one.

Thank you in advance for your help. Jane
 

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Hi,
Well refurbish :/

I would imagine any would not be refurbished if they were worth having they would still be in the owners hands :)
Some companies recycle machines which most came from x-p days which are inadequate for win-7 64 bit.

For the least amount of irritation..... I'd probably think build your own rather than buying refurbished units
Of course this is not going to be cheap by any means
So for one post a realistic budget

I personally wouldn't even consider a refurbished unit
I'd lean more to upgrading an older one you might already have.
 

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EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
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2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
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Custom water loops
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Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
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Walmart has great deals on refurbs. My father has been very please with the desktop Dell he has. What kind of price range are you looking to stay in? Wouldn't it be easier to buy new and have no headaches?
 

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2 years old and so far this rig still kicks butt
Thrash, it's obvious that you are extremely knowledgeable when it comes to tech, light years ahead of me and probably own more than one desktop and laptop, all of which are probably in excellent condition. So, I propose that you send me one of yours, your choice, and turn my :-( into a :-)

I'll pay the shipping. Jane
 

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Hi,
lol we all have to start some where
What is wrong with your 3 y.o. desktop or was it a laptop ?

I agree possibly a local retailer would be a quicker return if you have issues with a refurbished unit
Looks like you have the right way to look for one = with a darn good return policy :)

We do not know a state and city where you live or budget :(
Newegg.com is a good place but these used units are like playing dice = no telling what you'll get :/
 

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i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
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ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
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Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
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EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
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Built-in Realtek
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1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
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1920 x 1080 144Hz
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2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
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2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
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2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
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Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
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Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
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FireFox & Pale moon
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Hi, my five year old desktop, an Emachine (32-bit, 2gb ram, 320 HD) which was great and absolutely no headaches, just slow after 5 years and not very portable. Unfortunately, it is still in my storage unit in Akron, OH, and I am in Miamisburg (Dayton area). I moved with my laptop never dreaming that it would fail so completely after two years. I'll be in the Akron area in mid-October and will bring the rest of my property at that time. I was also considering having two pc's, in different rooms, each serving as a backup for the other and possibly the desktop also serving as a printer server, so I still plan on buying another desktop or laptop. My budget is $250 max with Win 7, refurbished with the thinking I would get more for my money or new.

By the way, I knew there was a good chance my proposal might be shot down but I thought "What the heke, give it a shot". It never hurts to ask. Jane
 

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2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
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2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
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Custom water loops
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Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
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2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
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Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
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Thanks. I was also looking through Newegg. What do you think of this?
 

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Hi,
Well if you notice the link I posted was an item Sold by and shipped by Newegg
But it also only has a replace policy so no refund :(

It's spec's sheet looks good only issue is it only has 128gb ssd storage so you will probably have to use a external hdd for personal files until you can get a larger sdd in the 250 to 500gb range which the 500gb ssd will cost another 150.us
256gb ssd at about 100.us

But if you use the system spec's on that unit and see if you can get something locally or on Amazon that would work too with a refund policy of course incase of defect:)
 

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i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
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ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
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Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
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EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
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Built-in Realtek
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1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
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Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
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Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
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FireFox & Pale moon
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I had an HP small form factor tower and I wouldn't go near another one. The motherboard ate power supplies and then died itself.

I personally think refurbed laptops can be a great way to go. That's why I do them. But you do have to be careful. A lot of sellers are not completely honest about the condition.

Win Pro v. Home shouldn't make any diff with performance issues.
 

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Have Magic Micro build you a computer to your specs. I got an I7, 16 GB ram, 2 1TB WD Black HDDS, W7 Pro for 1200.00. Works perfectly. I use it for music creation. They can build you a much cheaper one if you're on a budget. Why get refurbished when you can get a new one for a bargain price?
 

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NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE
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6 GB
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Lenovo LED
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Windows on 500 GB spinner; Ubuntu 16 on Sandisk 250GB SSD; Bodhi5 on Samsung 250GB SSD; another old spinner for fooling around.
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Original that came with computer
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Sorry about that. I had included a link to another desktop I found on Newegg, but the link did not make it to my post. It is HP Compaq 8000 Elite SFF PC - Intel Core 2 Quad Q9505 2.83GHz, 4GB DDR3 1333 Memory 500GB 7200RPM HDD - Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit - Newegg.com

Oh yep I was wondering where the link was :)

Well I agree with the others this machine will likely have very poor ventilation and run hot,
Eventually you will need to do this,
Although I did this finally after 6 years of use,
I'm not a fan of H-P
http://www.sevenforums.com/pc-custo...52-modifing-old-desktop-machine-new-case.html
 

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Custom assembled by me :}
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Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
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i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
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2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
Pass :)
Looks like a dvr :shock:
 

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Custom assembled by me :}
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Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
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i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
Other Info
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads

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Hi,
I can get onboard with that Porthos :)
 

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Custom assembled by me :}
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Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
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i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
Other Info
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
UPDATE: I came very close to purchasing the Thinkcentre M58P referenced above until I realized that the three previous pc's that I purchased and had problems with were Win 7 PROFESSIONAL. Instead, I bought the Win 7 HOME PREMIUM Lenovo Thinkcentre M58 Ultra Small Form Factor Desktop - Newegg.com. I've only had it for about a week, but so far, so good. It runs like a new Win 7 pc. I now wonder if Win 7 PROFESSIONAL had problems, in general, that are not present in Home Premium.
 

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Hi,
Home premium is a more simplistic version
Not a lot of bloat and usually just works,
Pro version well if you need group policy that's the one to get a single user would not need pro.

Review the Junkware removal link above my signature ;)
 

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Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
Other Info
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
Instead, I bought the Win 7 HOME PREMIUM Lenovo Thinkcentre M58 Ultra Small Form Factor Desktop

Those m58's are workhorses. But I am not a fan of the small form factors from ANY mfg.
 

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