Repair Install

Brink · Aug 25, 2010

Hello Mycenius, and welcome to Seven Forums.

Sorry, but no. A repair install (aka: in-place upgrade) can only be done from within Windows started.

However, you could do a custom install at boot to have everything in your current installation placed inside the C:\Windows.old folder in the new installation. You will then be able to copy what you like back into the new installation from the C:\Windows.old folder.

Hope this helps,
Shawn

Mycenius · Aug 25, 2010

Thanks Shawn - appreciate the info. I am going to try rolling back the 3 update 'packages' first using the command prompt in recovery mode, and if that fails I will try the custom install as per your suggestion.

FTR this is the error I repeatedly get when my box loops in Recovery State:

Problem Event Name: StartupRepairOffline
Sig 1: 6.1.7600.16385
Sig 2: 6.1.7600.16385
Sig 3: unknown
Sig 4: 21201049
Sig 5: AutoFailover
Sig 6: 7
Sig 7: CorruptFile
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033

Cheers,

John

Jimbo Jones · Aug 29, 2010

Hi. I have qestions. Point 7 says "Windows 7 will now check online for and install any available installation updates", will this work on wireless broadband? and can someone please explain point 18 to me. I ahve read it many times but its like reading Chinese. Please, what does all this mean "18. Check to see if you are missing any user files. If you are, then you can copy them from the C:\Windows.old or the hidden protected operating system C:\$INPLACE.~TR and C:\WINDOWS.~Q backup folders." Thank you in advance.

Brink · Aug 29, 2010

Hello Jimbo, and welcome to Seven Forums.

(Point 7) - Windows will check for a internet connection while doing this. If one is available that Windows can connect to, Windows will check and install the update if one is available. If one is not available, or cannot be used for some reason, Windows will skip the update and continue the installation without it.

(Point 18) - When you do a repair install (in-place upgrade), Windows may make a copy of your current installation or files in the locations in bold above in your post. When the repair install is complete, you would check the files you may have had in your C:\Users\(user-name) user folders to see if you may be missing any. If you are, then you may be able to copy them back from the locations in bold above in your post.

Hope this helps,
Shawn

Caesar · Aug 30, 2010

My scenario:

Windows XP and Windows 7 on separate partitions on the same drive. Running low on space (even though I have a separate 750gb drive which is where I install programs and store data, some programs (Visual Studio) have to use the C:\ for some files even if the main program is installed on another drive/partition).

I got a larger drive and used Easus Partition manager to clone the partitions to the new drive. Everything looked like it worked okay, but there are small issues with my user profile, which I don't think made it fully intact. Some of my Windows program icons have a generic icon (Media Player, Microsoft Office), and the main problem is that I want to install Visual Studio 2010 on my computer and it installs fine, but the different components within Visual Studio do not work. No code highlighting or intellisense. I think this has something to do with my user profile corruption from cloning the partitions.

Anyway, sorry to be long-winded about this, but will a repair install fix my user profile corruption?

Mycenius · Aug 30, 2010

Brink said:
...When the repair install is complete, you would check the files you may have had in your C:\Users\(user-name) user folders to see if you may be missing any. If you are, then you may be able to copy them back from the locations in bold above in your post.

Hi Shawn - FWIW when I did my Custom Install at the weekend it arbitrarily moved all contents of the Users directory to the C:\Windows.old directory - a copy of my user profile was not preserved in the actual C:\Users directory... Note I did not use the same user name for my default admin/power user at install - in case it overwrote the old directory so this 'may' have been the reason...

However all files appeared to be in the back-up user directory in Windows.old as noted, although a couple were corrupt (but I suspect this related to the original issue with my RAID array that got me stuck in the repair loop and forced me to do the custom re-install).

Cheers,

John

NOKCOMPUTER · Sep 17, 2010

Ok, I got to Step 7. It looked like it finished downloading updates, but just hung there for over 2 hours. I had to quit, tried to run it again and it still hung. Any suggestions?

If you do a clean install will it save your files to the windows.old folder, or is that only with the custom install?

Brink · Sep 17, 2010

Hello NokComputer, and welcome to Seven Forums.

You would only get the Windows.old folder when doing a custom install. Depending on why you needed to do a repair install, have you already tried doing a system restore using a restore point dated before the issue to see that may help.

Hope this helps,
Shawn

NOKCOMPUTER · Sep 17, 2010

Brink said:
Hello NokComputer, and welcome to Seven Forums.

You would only get the Windows.old folder when doing a custom install. Depending on why you needed to do a repair install, have you already tried doing a system restore using a restore point dated before the issue to see that may help.

Hope this helps,
Shawn

Hi Brink, thanks for the reply. The reason I was doing the repair install was basically my computer is beyond slow now, can't uninstall/install programs, run cmd's hang, event viewer doesn't work, everything hangs and will not complete. Don't know what the culprit is. Earlier this week, I had trouble booting my computer (took an hour or two), then everything in windows slowed to a crawl (it would take add/remove programs 10 minutes to show). I have reason to believe it has something to do with a display driver, some faulty driver - or even possibly an external hard drive that was causing boot problems. But really it could be anything since so many problems starting popping up (it was just a downward spiral). I really doubt it's a virus (hardly ever on internet). This is on a 5-month old system with only a handfull of programs installed, windows updates set to update automatically, well maintained system. Don't understand what went wrong, even thought maybe a windows update could've messed it up.

Brink · Sep 17, 2010

With that many issues, you might use the free program MalwareBytes to check to see if you have a virus or some other form of malware.

Otherwise, you may be better off doing a custom install to start fresh, copy over any files you wanted from the Windows.old folder, then delete the Windows.old folder when ready to regain that space.

manager · Sep 17, 2010

If I disconnect my 1TB HDD to make the repair install go faster, will everything work as before if I just connect it afterwards?
Like, all the installed files and such will still be directed to the correct HDD - or would I have to install everything again?

NOKCOMPUTER · Sep 17, 2010

Brink said:
With that many issues, you might use the free program MalwareBytes to check to see if you have a virus or some other form of malware.

Otherwise, you may be better off doing a custom install to start fresh, copy over any files you wanted from the Windows.old folder, then delete the Windows.old folder when ready to regain that space.

Yeah, MalwareBytes would be great, but i'm 99% sure it would lock up like everything else I tried - even safe mode is slow. I was gonna go ahead with the custom install, but what If I get stuck at the same step and it hangs when trying to install the updates, what should I try after that?

Brink · Sep 17, 2010

Since a custom install is done at boot with your Windows 7 installation disk, you shouldn't have the same problem like you are trying to do a repair install (in-place upgrade) from within your current Windows 7 installation.

Lio · Sep 22, 2010

Hi ya'll

Always here asking help

OK, I have a new installed Seven Ultimate 64 (new = 34 days) and in another partition my old Vista Ultimate 64: so I have a dual boot created by Seven.
All was ok until I tried to update the Lightscribe template Labeler as I wrote in a 3d here in the forum.
From that moment started my problems and now I have 3 different problem and all are related to "Services". I don't know what is the problem, but they don't start (not in automatic nor in manual) and I cannot change the situation.
I tried to create a new account as administrator (with password), I tried to run the application that needs the different services as admin, or "run as different user" then
enter the new account and pass and some other way suggested by different user here in tghis forum and in other technical forum (like lightscribe forum or services forum).
No solution: i switch from Error 1053 (the service did not respond to the start in a timely fashion) or The operation could not be completed Access denied or some others.
This morning a new one: I cannot reinstall one of my plugin because when I need to use the Licence manager to enter the manually moved license (from the Vista partition to the Seven partition) I only have this reply :" Unable to install Windows Service". The plugin's technician told that I need to have the AST service running, but mine is stopped (I don't know why) and I cannot start it

So Because also this it's a services problem like the previous two, I decided to try a repair of my Seven installation, that - apart this problem, it's perfectly running, without any problem - to try to repair all the services.
So I have read all this tut, but I'm some question.......
First of all, I don't want to lose my installed programs or all my works, the only think I need is to repair the services.
Is this possible? Is there risk to have to reinstall all from zero? :shock: :cry:

I have finally accomplished my perfect installation of all my programs, plugins, utility and so on.... so I really don't want to format and reinstall newly Seven and all my stuff.
But it seems to me that with this procedure, I reinstall a new Seven (on a Beta version for example) and not repair something going bad.
Have I misunderstood all? Can I try to run my Seven dvd and try to repair my installation?
I have not tried before to repair an OS, normally my installation don't need anything until the time to reinstall the OS newly, so in the repair situation I'm really newbie.
Can someone of you "guru" help me?
And, as always

be patient with my bad english
Thanks in advance, I'll be here waiting for you all.
Lio

Brink · Sep 22, 2010

Hello Lio,

If Vista was installed first, then Windows 7 later, you will be able to do a repair install of Windows 7 with a retail Windows 7 installation DVD as long as the DVD is for the exact same edition (ex: Ultimate) and type (ex: 64-bit) that you currently have installed.

While you should not lose anything at all, it is highly advisable to backup anything that you do not want to lose just to be extra safe.

Hope this helps,
Shawn

Lio · Sep 22, 2010

hi Shawn,
thanks for the quick reply

So I can run my DVD and then boot from it, leave the setup process loading files, then select " Repair your computer" , select the Seven drive, and " Startup Repair ".
If I'll follow this procedure, do you think that my service permission and so on, will be reinstalled?
And the best choice is to boot from DVD?
But after doing all this, have I to erase all the installation files copied by Seven setup?
Thanks again for your patience

Lio

PS BTW, yes, Vista was installed 3 years ago

Lio · Sep 22, 2010

Hello, it's me again!
Just a few things ...

I'm setting up a system backup and so I did a search.
Using Windows 7 Manager I've discovered this:

Maybe all my problems are here, but I cannot understand what's the meaning of this:
I have to delete that 2 exe (they are the same service that I cannot run) ?
And then, what I have to do?

Thanks for any help
Lio

Brink · Sep 22, 2010

Lio,

I'm not sure what that is suppose to be in Windows 7 Manager. I suppose that you could let them be delete to see if it may help.

If not then, see if you might get lucky by doing a system restore at boot using a restore point dated before you had these issues to see if it may be able to undo and fix it.

If still not, then......
A repair install (inplace-upgrade) has to be ran from within your current Windows 7 installation instead of at boot. You can look at a list of items that will be affected in the yellow TIP box at the top of the tutorial. Services will be one of them, so all of them will be reinstalled and reset to default settings.

You would just need to follow the steps step by step while doing this, and you should be fine. You might print the tutorial if needed to make it easier while doing them.

Lio · Sep 27, 2010

Hi Shawn,
finally I solved all my problems ....and without any repair!!
It's absolutely ridiculous

As I've written some days ago, I've found that "strange "Hijacked" (for Windows manager) files that was the same files that prevent me to install LSS Lightscribe program and the License manager for OnOne plugins.
All I did is to create a full image backup of my system with Acronis, then I deleted that 2 services through Seven Manager.
After that I rebooted my system and tried newly to install lightscribe and OnOne and all went well

As always, computer made me crazy, but I love them so much

Thanks again for your usual kindness and patience :thumbsup:

Lio

Brink · Sep 27, 2010

That's great news Lio. I'm happy to hear that you got it sorted. Thank you for posting back with your results and solution.

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