Setting up a second router as a wireless access point

seavixen32

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I live in the UK and use Sky as my ISP.

The wireless router they supply is OK as far as the internet side of things is concerned, but for a good wireless connection to my wife's laptop in the next room, it sucks.

I have a spare Netgear DG834N Wireless ADSL2 modem router and was going to use this instead of my Sky router in an effort to improve the wireless range. Unfortunately, Sky's T's & C's insist that using a different router to the one they supplied could result in my internet service being withdrawn.

In an effort to prevent people using a third-party router, Sky have encrypted theirs with a username and password (not the username and password used to logon for e-mail etc) that can be retrieved with a hack, but I prefer not to go down that route.

What I would like to do is use the Sky router to handle the internet side of things, and then use my Netgear router as a wireless access point to give us better wireless coverage around the house.

Is this possible and if so, how do I go about it?
 

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Thanks for the link Josh, it may be worth a try as my computer has both an ethernet and wireless adapter.
 

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HP Pavilion Elite 495UK
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Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit
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Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz
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MSI 2A9C (CPU1)
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8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz
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nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM
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Realtek HD Audio
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HP2310i
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No Problem - Just post back your results to let us know if it works or not

Josh
 

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OK, I'll do that. I just need to find the power supply adapter for my Netgear router then I can give it a try.
 

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HP Pavilion Elite 495UK
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Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit
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Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz
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MSI 2A9C (CPU1)
Memory
8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz
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nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM
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Realtek HD Audio
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HP2310i
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1920 x 1080
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HP Elite
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Logitech Wireless M180 mouse
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If you log into the router, it should show you the username and password required for the PPoE connection to their end of things. I would honestly look into whether or not what they're saying is legal (I know that over here they can't require you use their modem, but they can refuse you tech support if you don't).

Also, if you plug in your spare wireless router and log into the configuration, many of them have an option to turn all the routing functionality off, and use it simply as a wireless access point.
 

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If you log into the router, it should show you the username and password required for the PPoE connection to their end of things. I would honestly look into whether or not what they're saying is legal (I know that over here they can't require you use their modem, but they can refuse you tech support if you don't).

Also, if you plug in your spare wireless router and log into the configuration, many of them have an option to turn all the routing functionality off, and use it simply as a wireless access point.

As well as a username and password to log into my Sky internet service Sky have also included in the router's firmware another username and password that needs to be extracted if I were to use a third-party router.

As I say, this is written into their contract terms and this was part of the answer I got when I queried why I couldn't use a non-Sky router: The reason we don't support the use of other routers is because we would not be able to provide end to end support with these. The use of other routers haven't been tested and configured to be used with Sky broadband.

In other words they're trying to say that having a uniform router for all their customers enables them to give better customer service, but that is open to question. They did also hint strongly that there would be a distinct lack of technical support if I ditch their router.

Anyway, I'll look into the suggestion you've offered and see if I can make any headway. I'm contracted to Sky until September so I may just bite the bullet and switch to an ISP that doesn't impose any sort of hardware restriction when my year is up.
 

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HP Pavilion Elite 495UK
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Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz
Motherboard
MSI 2A9C (CPU1)
Memory
8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz
Graphics Card(s)
nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
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HP2310i
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
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1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage
PSU
460W
Case
HP Elite
Cooling
Air cooled
Keyboard
Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard
Mouse
Logitech Wireless M180 mouse
Internet Speed
2Mb
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Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop
The so called "Customer Report" Is because on thier Router there is a special Port which allows Sky to access your Router and change any settings they want if needed be

Other routers cannot do so

Josh
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
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Custom Built
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 ; Windows Server 2012 R2 Standard
CPU
Intel Core i5 2400 @ 3.10GHz
Motherboard
Foxconn H67MP-S/-V/H67MP
Memory
8.0GB DDR3 @ 665MHz (2GBx4)
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 6870
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
AOC 2243W & SMB1930NW
Screen Resolution
1440x900 & 1920x1080
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977GB Seagate ST31000524AS ATA Drive (SATA)
250GB WD iSCSI attached Drive
PSU
750W Gaming PSU
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Novatech Night
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Fan
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Dell Standard PS/2 Keyboard
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R.A.T 07 Gaming Mouse
Internet Speed
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Google Chrome
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Thanks again Josh. In view of what you say I'm just going to soldier on until September, and then switch to another ISP that doesn't have such a constricting and intrusive way of operating.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion Elite 495UK
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz
Motherboard
MSI 2A9C (CPU1)
Memory
8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz
Graphics Card(s)
nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP2310i
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage
PSU
460W
Case
HP Elite
Cooling
Air cooled
Keyboard
Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard
Mouse
Logitech Wireless M180 mouse
Internet Speed
2Mb
Other Info
Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop
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