Show Us Your WEI [4]

[A Guy]

Should help your battery life too

A Guy

 

[ThrashZone]

Cool I didn't think about that
I was just hoping for more pep and less heat production which it did that nicely

 

[essenbe]

A lot of the restart times are dependent on the Motherboard. I have never had a restart time under 30 seconds. But, the majority of that was POST time. I timed it once from the time I saw the 'Windows loading' screem. I was on the desktop in about 8 or 9 seconds, I believe. The batch file everyone uses counts POST which we have little to no control over and neither does the SSD.

 

[ThrashZone]

Ha I was under the impression the start time started from the moment you power up and minus the actual entering the password bit then the fully loaded desktop/ and what ever is on the startup list
Which the old hdd was allot slower but didn't see exactly what the startup time was but it was noticeably allot slower than now,
Loving clean installs makes it allot more straight forward than cloning.....
No bugs transferring which I found quite a few during preparation for transfer I was not liking :/

But yea from login to desktop is extremely faster

 

[essenbe]

The hard drive/SSD has nothing to do with the POST time. After Post, when you see the first loading windows screen is the first time the SSD has anything to do with start up. At least that's what I think. POST is up to the BIOS. My Asus Motherboard is extremely slow for some reason. I had an Asrock board that from the time I pushed restart until I was back on a fully functional desktop was 23 seconds. I think the fastest time I have seen with this board was 30 seconds.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

The hard drive/SSD has nothing to do with the POST time. After Post, when you see the first loading windows screen is the first time the SSD has anything to do with start up. At least that's what I think. POST is up to the BIOS. My Asus Motherboard is extremely slow for some reason. I had an Asrock board that from the time I pushed restart until I was back on a fully functional desktop was 23 seconds. I think the fastest time I have seen with this board was 30 seconds.

You are correct that POST times are up to the BIOS (and UEFI, which replaces BIOS). My Asus P9X79 WS MOBO is also slow to post, especially compared to the BIOSes on my notebooks. Adding insult to injury, my HBA card (it gives me 8 more SATA III ports) also has to boot up its own BIOS (and it takes its own sweet time doing so) and the Marvel chips have to boot up their own BIOS. Once the OS starts to load, everything becomes lightning fast.

Although I haven't timed it, my current notebook boots up in about 20-30 seconds, including the time it takes to POST and for me to type in my password (and I type slowly).

 

[ThrashZone]

Well I am using uefi and wasn't before on this laptop so possibly that showed the most improvement besides a cleaner startup list
Good info

 

[essenbe]

Good on you, Mike.

 

[GeneO]

A lot of the restart times are dependent on the Motherboard. I have never had a restart time under 30 seconds. But, the majority of that was POST time. I timed it once from the time I saw the 'Windows loading' screem. I was on the desktop in about 8 or 9 seconds, I believe. The batch file everyone uses counts POST which we have little to no control over and neither does the SSD.

Are you doing a EFI boot and EFI formatted boot partition on a GPT disk? That makes a big difference. The post handoff to Windows is much faster. That is one thing you can do to improve post a lot. It helps to have a a GOP/EFI compatible VBIOS on your video card though, or you have to use CSM mode which is not a full EFI boot. Most video card vendors will supply you one if you ask. Brought mine down form 20-30s to 16s.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...e-firmware-interface-install-windows-7-a.html

https://www.happyassassin.net/2014/01/25/uefi-boot-how-does-that-actually-work-then/

GPT/EFI It is a completely different disk format and layout, and a completely different boot loader than MBR/BIOS. You do not have to reinstall windows from scratch, you can convert from MBR/BIOS to GPT/EFI from a backup of your windows partition:

How to Restore an MBR System image to UEFI/GPT (Convert, GPT, MBR, Restore)

that is what I did.

 

[essenbe]

Thanks Gene, I have never done a UEFI install, but we are getting more and more questions about it here. My next install, I may try one just to get some experience with it and gain a little more knowledge about it.

 

[Layback Bear]

Okay I am different.
What I count for boot time is from when I push the button until I can use the desktop.
On my system in my specs that is 40 seconds. I realize part of that time is bios and part is Windows 7. Shut down time is 4 to 5 seconds.

UEFI bios.

It may be because my RMA motherboard has a bunch of Xeon stuff.
This is only half of them. The motherboard I sent back didn't have all that Xeon stuff.

According to Asus site my bios should be 4210 but it will not work with that bios.
They sent back a motherboard with bios 4502 which is Xeon bios and it works great.

 

[ThrashZone]

Thanks Gene, I have never done a UEFI install, but we are getting more and more questions about it here. My next install, I may try one just to get some experience with it and gain a little more knowledge about it.

The only advantage I have gathered about not having the 100mg partition is Macrium imaging :/
No telling how uefi would effect you oc'ers y'all do so much tweaking via bios :/

 

[essenbe]

Thanks Gene, I have never done a UEFI install, but we are getting more and more questions about it here. My next install, I may try one just to get some experience with it and gain a little more knowledge about it.

The only advantage I have gathered about not having the 100mg partition is Macrium imaging :/
No telling how uefi would effect you oc'ers y'all do so much tweaking via bios :/

That's true.

 

[GeneO]

Thanks Gene, I have never done a UEFI install, but we are getting more and more questions about it here. My next install, I may try one just to get some experience with it and gain a little more knowledge about it.

The only advantage I have gathered about not having the 100mg partition is Macrium imaging :/
No telling how uefi would effect you oc'ers y'all do so much tweaking via bios :/

Not quite sure what you are driving at. What does a 100 MB partition have to do with anything?

 

[ThrashZone]

uefi is the 100mg partition
I'm not going to pretend to understand any of this all I was saying is the Free version of Macrium does not image the 100mg partition so it's an extra step in backup imaging,
Cheers.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

uefi is the 100mg partition
I'm not going to pretend to understand any of this all I was saying is the Free version of Macrium does not image the 100mg partition so it's an extra step in backup imaging,
Cheers.

Actually, UEFI replaces BIOS and resides on the MOBO, same as BIOS did. UEFI is not all that mysterious, just a bit different and more detailed than BIOS. If new to it, just RTFM.

And when I was still using Macrium Reflect Free (I use Pro now), it was able to image the 100MB partition along with the C: partition (btw, Reflect is the name of the software and Macrium is the name of the company that makes Reflect).

 

[ThrashZone]

RTFM didn't google well

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Read The ahem Manual.

 

[ThrashZone]

Still pretty nasty for a Lady

 

[GeneO]

uefi is the 100mg partition
I'm not going to pretend to understand any of this all I was saying is the Free version of Macrium does not image the 100mg partition so it's an extra step in backup imaging,
Cheers.

Actually, UEFI replaces BIOS and resides on the MOBO, same as BIOS did. UEFI is not all that mysterious, just a bit different and more detailed than BIOS. If new to it, just RTFM.

And when I was still using Macrium Reflect Free (I use Pro now), it was able to image the 100MB partition along with the C: partition (btw, Reflect is the name of the software and Macrium is the name of the company that makes Reflect).

There is more to EFI than just the UEFI "BIOS" interface that you see - that just scratches the surface. EFI is a whole new way of booting Windows and providing drivers for the "BIOS", and it uses a different boot loader to boot up windows.

You are talking about the 100MB MBR based basic partition for BIOS booting windows? This separate 100MB isn't required to boot for a MBR/BIOS based boot, you can just have one partition that is the system and boot partition as you well know

For an EFI boot, there is a required 100MB FAT32 partition that has a new partition type called EFI (as opposed to primary or reserved). The disk also has to be GPT instead of MBR. You have to create an EFI partition and format it FAT32. The new EFI bootloader goes in this system partition.

When you do an EFI boot to windows, it is much faster in handing off to Windows than an MBR/BIOS based boot.

Understanding Disk Partitions

What you have is a UEFI "BIOS" - you are booting in a BIOS compatibility mode, not EFI.