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[bigboi972]

Right, the case looks OK. Some people will tell you that silent cases aren't good for cooling but mine works just fine. The only advantage I have is my GPU expels its hot air out of the rear of the card so it doesn't dump heat into the case. That's something to take into consideration. If you do go for that case make sure to add a second 120mm intake fan to the front of the case as only one is supplied. The extra air flow will make a huge difference, especially to you HDDs and for moving the hot air from your GPU. Peronally I'd recommend the Cooler Master Silencio 650 (if you want a silent case) as you can hook your liquid cooler exhaust fan up to the top of the case and have an extra fan exhausting out of the back. the NXZT model doesn't have the extra fan position.

I'd definitely go with the 4790, I'm pretty staunch about that. Others may have different opinions.

This is the PSU I'd recommend. Corasir HX750-80. A higher rated PSU won't damage your parts, I guarantee that. It will only supply as much power is needed by each component.

Let me know a budget for your motherboard, but a Z97-A should be more than adequate.

For a liquid cooler I'd recommend the Corsair h80i.

Sense the case I have does not have the extra fan position do you think I should go with a different case? As far as budget for the motherboard goes I wanna keep the cost to 1000. Right now I am at 600-673. As for the cpu you are correct about other opinions on that. On my reddit post someone claimed they had no problems with the Xeon when it came to performance and claimed their was no difference between the 4790 and the Xeon. Although they did not specify if they ever used the 4790 Also how do I determine if all of this will fit in the case I get. Also how do i know if the parts I purchase are compatible. Cause I know the motherboard has to have a specific slot for the CPU.


Addition cases im considering
NZXT Source 210 Window ATX Mid Tower Case (CA-S21W2-B1) - PCPartPicker
NZXT H230 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (CA-H230I-B1) - PCPartPicker
Apevia X-SNIPER2-BL ATX Mid Tower Case (X-SNIPER2-BL) - PCPartPicker
Azza CSAZ-920B ATX Mid Tower Case (CSAZ-920B) - PCPartPicker

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Have a look at the Coolermaster HAF cases too have used two so far and my favourite is the
HAF XM.

 

[bigboi972]

Have a look at the Coolermaster HAF cases too have used two so far and my favourite is the
HAF XM.

Thanks I really like this one. im not sure if my parts would fit into it
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-HAF-912-Computer/dp/B00BCXF6O4/ref=dp_ob_title_ce

 

[Boozad]

Yes they would, it's a very good case.

As for your CPU (4790) it will be a socket LGA1150. If you're going ASUS for a motherboard (I would personally, they're excellent) you'll want a Z97 series. I'd recommend this one.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Have a look at the Coolermaster HAF cases too have used two so far and my favourite is the
HAF XM.

Thanks I really like this one. im not sure if my parts would fit into it
Amazon.com: Cooler Master HAF 912 - Mid Tower Computer Case with High Airflow: Computers & Accessories

Very nice and I suppose this would be beyond the budget but excellent for routing the cabling out of sight. http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master...f=sr_1_43?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1404308457&sr=1-43

 

[bigboi972]

Have a look at the Coolermaster HAF cases too have used two so far and my favourite is the
HAF XM.

Thanks I really like this one. im not sure if my parts would fit into it
Amazon.com: Cooler Master HAF 912 - Mid Tower Computer Case with High Airflow: Computers & Accessories

Very nice and I suppose this would be beyond the budget but excellent for routing the cabling out of sight. Amazon.com: Cooler Master HAF XM - Mid Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0 Ports and X-Dock (RC-922XM-KKN1): Computers & Accessories

yes it is at the moment

 

[bigboi972]

Yes they would, it's a very good case.

As for your CPU (4790) it will be a socket LGA1150. If you're going ASUS for a motherboard (I would personally, they're excellent) you'll want a Z97 series. I'd recommend this one.

With a motherboard that has an LGA1150 socket will it hold the Xeron processor if I choose to get that one and what is the difference between the asrock motherboard and the asus one. I was asking because if I get the cheaper xeron processor and the cheaper mother board I can get a better case another user suggested but if I go with the asus motherboard and 4790 processor I will get one of the cases I listed in my last post. Besides the asrock is cheaper I know it would be better to get the asus now if I planned on getting the asus mother board in the future but. I was thinking if I get the asrock motherboard and the only part I plan on replacing later is upgrading the asrock motherboard to the asus one in the future. That would not be too much of a loss Also can both motherboards hold an ssd ?


ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (H97 PRO4) - PCPartPicker

 

[Boozad]

The best thing to do is check benchmarks for the Xeon versus the 4790, here for instance, and make your decision educated. Considering the Xeons are more commonly used in servers it just seems a strange choice to me and you'd get better performance out of the i7. Whichever motherboard you choose I'd just stick with it, don't buy a motherboard with the intention of upgrading it, that's just wasting money. I always recommend ASUS because I always use them, but the ASRock one may be perfectly adequate for your needs.

As for the cases you linked the H230 looks pretty decent. And all modern motherboards will support an SSD, just make sure they have SATA3 6Gb/s connections.

 

[bigboi972]

If you already own the 7950 then by all means keep it and integrate it into your new build, there's no sense in buying a new GPU.

For your build I would be looking at a 650W minimum PSU, 500W will be borderline at best. It's always best to have headroom for power so go high and save yourself any hassle. If you take a look at my specs you'll see I'm running on an HX850-80 Gold modular. It's more than I'll ever need while running one GPU but the overhead is there if I need it for other expansions, and I don't want to be running anywhere near close to the top rating of my PSU. I'd recommend either a 650W or better still a 750W.

As for the CPU it's your call, the 4790 will be more than adequate for what you need and I think the Xeon will be overkill. The CPU will come with a stock cooler, but you'll be much better off with an aftermarket cooler. Do you prefer air or liquid? Answer that and we'll look at coolers, it's relevant as some air coolers may not fit into your case (which case are you using?) as they're quite big, and you'd need to check whether it will physically impact the RAM. Are you staying with the ASRock motherboard?

what did you mean when you said I need to check and see if it will effect the ram?

 

[Boozad]

Some air coolers are huge and cover the RAM slots on the motherboard, RAM with big heatsinks may not fit then as it's too big. If you go for a water cooler you won't have to worry about that.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

I haven't been keeping up with the most recent CPU/motherboard developments, but is there any reason to get a Z97 series motherboard if you are getting a 4790 rather than a 4790K and have no overclocking intentions?

 

[bigboi972]

which hard drive should I go with out of these two? Would it make a difference? Also I am trying to get some ram from amazon due to most of my parts coming from amazon. I wanted to know what factors should I look for in ram besides the amount I want which is 16gb. As a long as the ram is 16gb and is ddr3 would any other factors influence the performance. Also in terms of optical drive I will only be using it to install windows could I do this with a flash drive instead and skip the optical drive

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007WT9SU0/?tag=pcpapi-20
Amazon.com: Samsung Electronics 840 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Single Unit Version Internal Solid State Drive MZ-7TE120BW: Computers & Accessories

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Of those 2 drives, get the Samsung EVO 840. It's excellent.

RAM:

Ideally, look at your motherboard manufacturer's web site and try to find a memory compatibility list for that motherboard. Choosing RAM from that list means it's confirmed to be compatible but some RAM modules NOT on that list will also work. You could also go to Crucial.com and use their configuration tool. You enter your motherboard brand and model and the configurator will spit back a list of Crucial brand memory known to be compatible.

You should mainly be concerned about RAM type, voltage, and speed. RAM timings are of lesser concern. Some modules have tall heatspreaders that make them too tall to fit under an overhanging cooler. You can try to research the clearance issues for a particular heatsink or you can just make it a point to avoid tall heatspreaders.

If you want 16 GB, you'd probably want to get two 8 GB sticks, rather than four 4 GB sticks.

You'll most likely want DDR 3, unbuffered, non-EEC, 1.5 volt, with a speed of 1600. Going with a faster speed has very little effect--you'd likely never notice it. Look at the motherboard specifications for the details on what RAM it will accept.

Stick with major brands. Crucial, Corsair, and G Skill are fine.

 

[bigboi972]

Of those 2 drives, get the Samsung EVO 840. It's excellent.

RAM:

Ideally, look at your motherboard manufacturer's web site and try to find a memory compatibility list for that motherboard. Choosing RAM from that list means it's confirmed to be compatible but some RAM modules NOT on that list will also work. You could also go to Crucial.com and use their configuration tool. You enter your motherboard brand and model and the configurator will spit back a list of Crucial brand memory known to be compatible.

You should mainly be concerned about RAM type, voltage, and speed. RAM timings are of lesser concern. Some modules have tall heatspreaders that make them too tall to fit under an overhanging cooler. You can try to research the clearance issues for a particular heatsink or you can just make it a point to avoid tall heatspreaders.

If you want 16 GB, you'd probably want to get two 8 GB sticks, rather than four 4 GB sticks.

You'll most likely want DDR 3, unbuffered, non-EEC, 1.5 volt, with a speed of 1600. Going with a faster speed has very little effect--you'd likely never notice it. Look at the motherboard specifications for the details on what RAM it will accept.

Stick with major brands. Crucial, Corsair, and G Skill are fine.

the ram I am considering for my build are below along with a link to my full build is their any other ram you would suggest otherwise ill do what you told me when looking for compatible ram


PNY XLR8 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (MD16384KD3-1600-X9) - PCPartPicker

Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3, Sapphire Radeon HD 7950, NZXT H230 (Black) - System Build - PCPartPicker

power supply im going with http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500m

 

[ignatzatsonic]

If you want that Asrock motherboard, it's your job to go to Asrock web site and look it up. Confirm what RAM it takes and find the memory compatibility list.

What's your over-riding reason for going with a Xeon processor?

I might not choose a Seagate drive, but all brands can be shaky, so go ahead with it.

Case is personal preference. OK.

Edit: you had an XFX power supply chosen a few minutes ago and now have a Corsair CX500M. I'd prefer the XFX--you should be able to do better than the Corsair at that price level.

But get your motherboard, RAM, and processor nailed down first.

 

[bigboi972]

If you want that Asrock motherboard, it's your job to go to Asrock web site and look it up. Confirm what RAM it takes and find the memory compatibility list.

What's your over-riding reason for going with a Xeon processor?

I might not choose a Seagate drive, but all brands can be shaky, so go ahead with it.

Case is personal preference. OK.

Edit: you had an XFX power supply chosen a few minutes ago and now have a Corsair CX500M. I'd prefer the XFX--you should be able to do better than the Corsair at that price level.

I went with the xeon cause it is cheaper and I did some research people who owned the xeon said that it performed similar to the 4790 card. The 4790 comes with an integrated gpu and its good for over clocking for what I have heard and I dont plan on overclocking cause I dont know where to even start with that. I have no clear cut reason for going with the xeon. As far as the corsair PSU someone in the thread suggested it. I had another cpu choosen in my build because someone else put this build together I did not choose any of these parts.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

The 4790 is not an overclocking processor.

Get your motherboard and RAM nailed down. Go to the Asrock site and do the necessary.

You need to confirm that the motherboard has the features you need. Number and type of ports, acceptable RAM, Xeon compatible, etc.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

PassMark Intel vs AMD CPU Benchmarks - High End

You can see a benchmark score for the 4790 and Xeon 1230 v 3 at the above link.

 

[bigboi972]

ram PNY XLR8 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (MD16384KD3-1600-X9) - PCPartPicker
mother board
ASRock B85 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (B85 Pro4) - PCPartPicker

now what?

 

[ignatzatsonic]

I'm trying to understand some of your thinking.

You changed from one Asrock to another. Why?

You chose that RAM. Why?

You're telling me what you chose, but not why.

You threw a dart at a list?

You read something?

You heard something?