SSD - Install and Transfer the Operating System

How to Physically Install a SSD and Transfer the Operating System


Introduction

If you never owned an SSD, you have missed something. Yes, they are not cheap, but Dollar per Dollar there is no other piece of hardware that can give you as much additional performance than an SSD.

Because SSDs are expensive, their current use is for placing the operating system. That’s how you get the best mileage. Although XP and Vista can be installed on SSDs, it is recommended to use them for Windows7, which is the first system to support Trim.

For desktops, an SSD with a 60GB capacity is usually sufficient. The user data can be moved to the HDD – I will explain the procedure later. Should you have very large programs, e.g., games, you should move their program files during the installation of the game to the HDD too.

For laptops, the situation is more complicated because you usually have only one disk bay. I use 80GB and 90GB SSDs on my laptops. In addition, I use the HDD that I recovered from the laptop after I installed the SSD in an external USB enclosure. But, if you move around a lot with the laptop, that may not be so convenient and a bigger SSD (120GB or 250GB) may be in order (budget allowing).


Hardware Installation

For a desktop, you will need a bracket if it is a 2.5” SSD (like most today). But, there are also 3.5” SSDs that will fit without adaptor brackets into the disk bays. You also need a cable to attach the SSD to the motherboard. For electricity, there is usually an extra plug at the PSU which you can use for the SSD’s.

Once you have all those bits, you can install the SSD in an available disk bay – or if none available, some self-adhesive Velcro will also do. The SSDs are light and do not produce any vibration or heat.

For a laptop, you need an external enclosure that attaches to a USB port. That will allow you to make the initial SSD setups. The one I linked attaches via USB2 and eSata, which may be practical later to use as external drive with the HDD that you recovered from the laptop. Also for hot swapping bare bone HDDs. But there are cheaper enclosures for USB2 only and also some that allow attachment to USB3.

Transfer the Operating System

There are two ways to transfer the operating system from your current HDD to the SSD:
1. The Geeky way which comes for free and
2. The easy way that costs $19.95.

1.The Geeky way requires the following steps:

Prepare the SSD – You first have to initialize the SSD to create the MBR. You can do that with Disk Management or with this program (which you will need later anyhow).

Then you need to align the SSD and define an active partition on it. You use an elevated Command Prompt with the following commands:

Diskpart
List disk
Select disk n (where n is the number that was given for your SSD in List disk)
Clean
Create partition primary align=1024
Format fs=ntfs quick
Active (assuming you want to install an OS)
Exit

Note: If you are more comfortable working with Disk Management, you can also define a primary active partition with Disk Management. On a SSD, the partition will be automatically aligned by 1024.


If you want to verify that the alignment is correct, you use these commands:

Diskpart
List disk
Select disk n
List partition



You should see a result like this:

Partition ### Type Size Offset


------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 Primary 59 GB

1024 KB - but 64KB or any number divisible by 4 is also good. The offset has to be divisible by 4.

In Windows7, you may have the 100MB active boot partition. The easiest way to deal with that is to move the bootmgr to the C: partition using EasyBCD. That you do on your HDD before you transfer anything to the SSD. Then you do not have to worry about it and you need only transfer the C: partition to the SSD.


But if you care to keep the 100MB partition, then the partition you just created on the SSD is for that 100MB partition. The next step is to shrink the partition you just created to a 100MB size (make sure it is not any smaller). With Disk Management you will have trouble to do that. I recommend this program for the operation.

From the free space you gained, you create the C: partition for the OS. This partition must not be active and need not be a primary (because the 100MB partition contains the boot manager).

Alternatively and easier is if you first create the 100MB partition with these commands:

Diskpart
List disk
Select disk n (where n is the number that was given for your SSD in List disk)
Clean
Create partition primary size=100 align=1024
Format fs=ntfs quick
Active
Exit

Note: The unit in the size parameter is MB

After this action you can use Disk Management to create the C partition from the remaining unallocated space. That can be a logical partition.

If there is no 100MB partition, things are easy. The partition you created with Command Prompt will receive the C partition including boot manager and all.

There may be more partitions on your factory HDD – e.g., the Recovery partition and a Tools Partition. Those you should not transfer to the SSD because of space constraints. I would back them up – e.g., with an imaging program. The Recovery Partition you can also burn to DVDs.

The OS transfer

This is done with an image. There are a variety of free imaging programs (e.g., the free editions of Macrium, Paragon, Acronis, etc.) that are suitable for the task. You can also use the Windows7 imaging, which has the advantage that it deals with the 100MB active boot partition automatically. Disadvantage is that you never know exactly what it does.

You image your partitions to an external disk (you may have to assign a drive letter to the 100MB partition so that the imaging program can identify it) and then pull the images back in to the SSD (using the bootable recovery program of the imaging program).
The recovery is partition by partition. So you have to make separate runs for the 100MB partition (if any) and the C: partition.

Note: Many free imaging programs cannot shrink the originating partition to fit into the usually much smaller C: partition on the SSD - even if the amount of data in that partition would fit. In that case you will need to shrink the C: partition on the HDD prior to imaging it. The HDD C: partition must be smaller or equal in size to the designated partition on the SSD. For that operation I also recommend this program because Disk Management might not be able to shrink it enough. Note: Free Macrium can image to a smaller disk if the data fits.

It is, of course, understood, that the amount of data on your HDD C: partition must not exceed the capacity of the designated C: partition on the SSD. Should you have more data on your HDD C: partition than the size of the SSD C: partition can hold, I suggest you first create a data partition on the HDD system and move the user data there. Here is my video tutorial that explains how this is done. When you finally are on the SSD system, you then right click on the user folders in the data partition (Documents, Pictures, etc.) and Include them into the appropriate library. That approach does not require you to move the user folders later.

Next step is to change the boot sequence in the BIOS to set the SSD as second boot device (leave the CD/DVD reader as first boot device) and, hopefully, your system will boot.

2.The easy way for transferring the OS requires you to purchase this program. It does everything for you – alignment, deals with the 100MB partition, transfers C:, shrinks the originating partition, etc. All you will have to do is change the boot sequence.

Note: Before you activate the SSD, it is recommended to set the BIOS to AHCI. Best time to do that is just before you change the boot sequence. Once Windows7 is running, you make the corresponding settings in the OS. Here is a tutorial on how to do that.
Many people claim that there is a significant performance gain with AHCI. I, however, did not see that. But it may be different from system to system.

Settings after the OS transfer

Disk Defragmentation makes no sense on an SSD. For a laptop, go into Services, navigate to Disk Defragmenter, right click on it and go to Properties. Here you set the service to Disabled.
For a desktop, you may want to disable defrag in the Disk Defragmenter and only for the SSD so that the remaining HDDs can still be defragmented.

Note: As long as Defrag Service is turned off, you cannot shrink any partition. The partition shrink process requires the Defrag service. If you need to shrink a partition later, turn the Defragmentation Service temporarily on.

Hibernation File – most of us do not use Hibernation, but Sleep instead. But, the hiberfile takes precious space on your SSD – to the same tune as the size as your RAM. To get rid of it, run the following command in elevated Command Prompt: powercfg –h off. If you ever want it back, it is powercfg – h on.

Superfetch – many “experts” suggest to turn Superfetch off. I think that is not appropriate. Fetching a program or data from RAM is still a lot faster than fetching it from a disk – even from an SSD.

There are no other settings that are necessary. On the SSD forums you will find a lot of tweaks. I recommend you stay away from them.


Move the user folders to the HDD

To move the user folders to the HDD is very simple. Create a Data partition on the HDD. Define folders in that partition – e.g., Documents, Music, Pictures, etc. One for each folder you want to move off the SSD. The name of those folders can be anything. The system will rename them anyhow. It is just more obvious if you call them by the same name as the originating folders.

Then, open the Explorer and right click on, e.g., My Documents folder (not the Documents Library) in the left pane. Go to Properties and click on the Location tab. Here you click on Move and navigate to the corresponding folder in your Data Partition on the HDD. Then you Select that folder and Apply it.

Very Important: You must move the SSD folder to the corresponding Data Partition folder – NOT to the root of the partition itself. That would create a mess.








 
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Don't worry about the rant. But I really do not understand what might have happened. If you installed Win7 on the SSD with all other disks disconnected and then change the boot sequence to load from the SSD, this thing should perform like greased with butter.

Not being able to connect or any other troubles should really not occur. Where in the sequence of events could you have taken the wrong turn.
 

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Don't worry about the rant. But I really do not understand what might have happened. If you installed Win7 on the SSD with all other disks disconnected and then change the boot sequence to load from the SSD, this thing should perform like greased with butter.

Not being able to connect or any other troubles should really not occur. Where in the sequence of events could you have taken the wrong turn.
I don't really know Wolfgang I followed the secure erase and the diskpart to the letter and made sure the SSD was the only drive in the machine when I loaded the 7 OS.

The result took me by complete surprise as it looks like a very basic set up with very little in the way of things I could do in it.

I might just do the whole thing again and see what happens - I did it that way instead of keeping the HDD connected to make sure there was no chance of anything "migrating" across as I suspect has happened to muck up the first install.
 

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Yes, you must disconnect the HDD. Else a lot of undesirable things can happen.

Btw: You can also use Disk Management (in lieu of Diskpart) to format the SSD. If you define a primary, active partition with DM, it will align the SSD.
 

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Yes, you must disconnect the HDD. Else a lot of undesirable things can happen.

Btw: You can also use Disk Management (in lieu of Diskpart) to format the SSD. If you define a primary, active partition with DM, it will align the SSD.
Ok I will do that soon as I can and I might just stick to diskpart as I am used to using it now and I might even use the older HDD to do those things and not the one that was hooked up to do it (I have two 1TB's in the machine).

It has been cloned from the one that might have been the problem but one that was done some time ago now so may not have stuff that will affect any outcome of setting up the SSD.
 

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Eureka Wolfgang!! I have just had it sink in with moving users and favourites!:D

Now for the transfer of the OS oh boy I am so glad I watched that video and should have done it the first place with a bit more attention and I wouldn't have got myself into strife in the first place.:o
 

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Now I know I am a pain but have got to the Macrium bit and this is where I am stalling I have the Macrium app but it opens to this window and I just cannot figure out how to transfer the C; to the new U: partition in the SSD.:o

Sorry but I am so used to using EaseUS to do this sort of stuff only it hasn't got this function that I can find.
 

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I used Macrium when I installed my SSD a few days ago and it went without a hitch. All I did was,

1. Create an image before installing the SSD to a different drive (and not partition on the same drive as Windows was installed on).

2. Powered down and disconnected the HDD and connected the SSD in its place.

3. Rebooted and booted from the Macrium recovery disk and used it to load the image onto the SSD.

4. Restarted once that as done and Windows loaded right up.

5. Went into Disk Management and extended the partition as the HDD I was using was only 80 GB and the new SSD is 120 GB. It didn't even convert it to a dynamic disk as it is the OS/system drive.

I have a feeling #5 is where you're running into problems as you're trying to put a 800+ GB image/partition onto a 120 GB drive. If I am not mistaken you're either going to have to go with a clean Windows install or do this,

Note: Most free imaging programs cannot shrink the originating partition to fit into the usually much smaller C: partition on the SSD - even if the amount of data in that partition would fit. In that case you will need to shrink the C: partition on the HDD prior to imaging it. The HDD C: partition must be smaller or equal in size to the designated partition on the SSD. For that operation I also recommend this program because Disk Management might not be able to shrink it enough.

to shrink the original partition before loading the image to the SSD.
 

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I used Macrium when I installed my SSD a few days ago and it went without a hitch. All I did was,

1. Create an image before installing the SSD to a different drive (and not partition on the same drive as Windows was installed on).

2. Powered down and disconnected the HDD and connected the SSD in its place.

3. Rebooted and booted from the Macrium recovery disk and used it to load the image onto the SSD.

4. Restarted once that as done and Windows loaded right up.

5. Went into Disk Management and extended the partition as the HDD I was using was only 80 GB and the new SSD is 120 GB. It didn't even convert it to a dynamic disk as it is the OS/system drive.

I have a feeling #5 is where you're running into problems as you're trying to put a 800+ GB image/partition onto a 120 GB drive. If I am not mistaken you're either going to have to go with a clean Windows install or do this,

Note: Most free imaging programs cannot shrink the originating partition to fit into the usually much smaller C: partition on the SSD - even if the amount of data in that partition would fit. In that case you will need to shrink the C: partition on the HDD prior to imaging it. The HDD C: partition must be smaller or equal in size to the designated partition on the SSD. For that operation I also recommend this program because Disk Management might not be able to shrink it enough.

to shrink the original partition before loading the image to the SSD.
Yeah thanks stormy I found out how to do the image about thirty minutes before you posted but although the image went across it was missing the MBR for some reason. So have gone back to a clean install but now having problems with scaling the screen as you know the 7 default was made for a cinema sized one LOL!!
If I cannot get this to work I am going to clone my laptop one (M4) and hang the the lot of them as I have had M$ up to there!!
Why they just couldn't just install to fir the screen is beyond me.
 

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Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
Yeah thanks stormy I found out how to do the image about thirty minutes before you posted but although the image went across it was missing the MBR for some reason.
I do not think MBR's go missing - they may get damaged and need repairing.
I think you mean MSR or "Microsoft System Reserved".
 

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Yeah thanks stormy I found out how to do the image about thirty minutes before you posted but although the image went across it was missing the MBR for some reason.
I do not think MBR's go missing - they may get damaged and need repairing.
I think you mean MSR or "Microsoft System Reserved".
No mate it was definitely MBR as it wouldn't boot from the SSD. I tried a repair install but that was waste of time .

So I have formatted the thing again and the install has gone in this time with no nasty messages.
The only problem besides the continuing Loading OS............ is scaling my monitor as good old Ati have "revised" the catalyst control centre to put it as politely as I can in front of the Geekesses and now is a nightmare to behold:mad:
 

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Canon MG5250MFC
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2. Powered down and disconnected the HDD and connected the SSD in its place.
Did you disconnect the HDD because hardware constraints would not accommodate both devices simultaneously,
or does the presence of the original HDD affect the integrity of the Boot CD image restore to the SSD ?
I have seen warnings that when a disk is cloned the original should be removed before booting up the new, but not seen such a warning when restoring an image to the new HDD.

Recently an SSD was added to my desktop and the BIOS Boot Order juggled to favor the SSD before the HDD, and Macrium PE Rescue CD restored the HDD image to the SSD.
The SSD booted O.K. as C:\ (and "old windows" on the HDD became G:\) but some aspects of Windows were defective so I finished up with a fresh installation of Windows.

Macrium never failed when restoring my HDD so I am puzzled by apparent corruption when putting the HDD image onto the SSD.
I am hoping that the problem was not due to my restored image including my own special reparse points that diverted things like the Firefox caches and the Comodo A.V. "spare" signature base to another HDD.
I intend to implement the same reparse points on the SSD - but carefully in-case it goes belly up again.

Regards
Alan
 

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ASUSTeK Computer INC. M3A32-MVP DELUXE (CPU 1)
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Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit SP1 x64
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AMD Phenom X4 9500
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ASUSTeK M3A32-MVP Deluxe (CPU 1)
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8 GB
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ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series
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AMD High Definition Audio Device
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SyncMaster (1680x1050@60Hz)
Hard Drives
59GB OCZ-VERTEX2 ATA Device
+
977GB SAMSUNG HD103SJ ATA Device
+
625GB WDC WD6401AALS-00L3B2 ATA Device
I followed the tutorial but used Acronis to make an image, I restored to SSD and it would not boot, did a repair using DVD, all ok now.

The tutorial is excellent by the way.
 

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AMD FX-4100 AM3+ 3.6GHz 12MB Black Edition
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Asus M5A97 Pro
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Crsair vengeance 12Gb DDR3 1600MHz CL9
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Asus GTX 560 1GB
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Realtek onboard
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Hanns G 1680x1050 native
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OCZ 128Gb Petrol ssd
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OCZ StealthXstream II 500W
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Now I know I am a pain but have got to the Macrium bit and this is where I am stalling I have the Macrium app but it opens to this window and I just cannot figure out how to transfer the C; to the new U: partition in the SSD.:o

Sorry but I am so used to using EaseUS to do this sort of stuff only it hasn't got this function that I can find.
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Well for what it is worth and the problems I have had with the SSD and the amount of time that I have spent trying my very hardest to get the thing to work properly I could have built another machine or two.

I don't claim to be an Einstein but surely installing an OS on a SSD cannot be rocket science but apparently it is.

Again FWIW my quad core tester is faster to boot than the Sandy Bridge with 4x the RAM in it and it has only got an old 3Gbs HDD and 4GB.:zip:
 

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Did you disconnect the HDD

Disconnected as in removed both the power and SATA cables and put them on the SSD. The bios even cooperated by putting the SSD as the primary boot drive just like the HDD had been; then again the only thing that changed as far as the bios was concerned was the name of the drive. Also didn't have to change to AHCI as it has been running like that since I built the computer.

Haven't bothered to reconnect the old HDD as there is no need for it, and will likely wipe it and use it as the OS drive in my kids computer as it is a bit faster than the 250 GB that is in it now.
 

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Actually I was wondering about the reason for disconnection, not the fact or the method.

My image restore was a partial success, whilst yours was a total success,
so I was thinking you might have simply had a physical necessity with a Laptop,
or you might have followed a recommendation I was not aware of,
and whether this could be the magic difference that caused a problem for my SSD.

Regards
Alan
 

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59GB OCZ-VERTEX2 ATA Device
+
977GB SAMSUNG HD103SJ ATA Device
+
625GB WDC WD6401AALS-00L3B2 ATA Device
Alan, Unlike when you make a fresh install, for dumping an image there is really no reason to disconnect the HDD.

When you make a fresh installation, the installer may place the 100MB active partition or the BCD on the HDD - especially if the HDD is on a lower number port than the SSD.

If you restore an image, that does not happen. You have to, however, watch what happens with your bootmgr. If it was originally in the 100MB partition, you best transfer (actually copy) the bootmgr to the C partition. Else you have to image and restore the 100MB partition and the C partition.
 

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Thanks, I thought there was no need to disconnect the HDD but when I saw Stormy's post I thought he might have known that it was better practice.

My son works in I.T. and early last year he installed Windows 7 with the 100 MB MSR on a desktop for me.
Previously I used XP on a Laptop and feel it is a bit early to risk trashing a new system :)
My Macrium images did (and still do) include the MSR with C:\ in each partition backup.
(I use a BAT script to easily select Full or DIFF or INC backups of preselected groups of partitions)

My system has some asymmetry.
It started with 4 GB.
Another 4 GB was was bought but the system failed to boot with any more than 6 GB installed.
After 5 or 6 shift and shuffle attempts it eventually booted with 8 GB.

Not related to the above but perhaps another hardware issue :-
a BIOS non-bootable GPT 600 GB HDD is and always has been seen by Partition Wizard as Disc 1
my bootable 1000 GB HDD is seen as Disc 2, and MSR is Primary; Active
My new SSD is seen as Disc 3, and MSR is Primary; Active&Boot

My BIOS Boot order is
Removable Flash Drive (Macrium Rescue)
CD/DVD
SSD
SamSung 1000 GB HDD

I am hoping that should the SSD fail to boot then the original C:\ on the 1000 GB HDD will automatically boot up.

Regards
Alan
 

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ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series
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AMD High Definition Audio Device
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SyncMaster (1680x1050@60Hz)
Hard Drives
59GB OCZ-VERTEX2 ATA Device
+
977GB SAMSUNG HD103SJ ATA Device
+
625GB WDC WD6401AALS-00L3B2 ATA Device
When installing an OS on a new or clean SSD/HDD I would recommend disconnecting the data cables of all but the OS drive. Often you may not need to but it avoids the possibility of boot files being installed on a drive other than the OS drive. You don't want this.
 

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When installing an OS on a new or clean SSD/HDD I would recommend disconnecting the data cables of all but the OS drive. Often you may not need to but it avoids the possibility of boot files being installed on a drive other than the OS drive. You don't want this.
Absoflaminglutely MJf that happened to mine it has really taught me a lesson do things in haste repent at leisure.

Luckily I have reinstalled the OS to the SSD and apart from the continuing slow boot>load................................. the device works really fast.

Plus I had a eureka moment last night in understanding the transfer of Users etc - Wolfgang's tut video is more up my alley than reading and doing:D

So anyone in my boat the vids are the best as one can see what it is that one should clicking on or pointing at :party:
 

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Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
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Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
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Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
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1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
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Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
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Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
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Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
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Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
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One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
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