SSD installation?

[Alexey2912]

Received SSD drives for my desktop and laptop, replaced 1st on my laptop.

I would appreciate what I need to do for there proper functioning, before installing W7.

Like uncheck W7 defragmentor........do some services need to be tweaked etc??

Should I partition it or give all to W7, since use 40 GB for W7 and apps?

It's WD Black Scorpio 320 GB, put in a usb enclosure and set for data with NTFS file system.

Haven't started W7 on it, wanted to install simultaneously on both but than wont have access to the forums, since shall take some time and its my 1st time with SSDs.

Thanks.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi and welcome to SevenForums,
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/149969-ssd-install-transfer-operating-system.html
Although I prefer to clean install instead of cloning... the above tutorial should get you going
Cheers.

 

[Alexey2912]

Thanks for replying and posting the link, appreciate it.

I too prefer a clean install.

Is it essential to move user folders?

Superfetch is the only service that need to be disabled?

Thanks again.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Received SSD drives for my desktop and laptop, replaced 1st on my laptop.

I would appreciate what I need to do for there proper functioning, before installing W7.

Like uncheck W7 defragmentor........do some services need to be tweaked etc??

Should I partition it or give all to W7, since use 40 GB for W7 and apps?

It's WD Black Scorpio 320 GB, put in a usb enclosure and set for data with NTFS file system.

Haven't started W7 on it, wanted to install simultaneously on both but than wont have access to the forums, since shall take some time and its my 1st time with SSDs.

Thanks.

Clarify some things.

You say you received SSD drives for laptop and desktop. Then you say "It's WD Black Scorpio 320 GB."

That's an HDD, not an SSD.

Refer to one machine at a time and tell us what you are generally trying to do.

Normally, you would NOT make more than one partition on an SSD, but you might have a special circumstance. You say 40 GB for Windows and apps, but we don't know which machine you are referring to or the size of the SSD in question.

Do you have intentions of storing data on the SSD? On both machines?

You shouldn't defrag an SSD, but Windows normally turns off defrag on an SSD during installation. You can check that afterwards.

You should confirm proper alignment, but that's normally done correctly during installation. You can later check it.

Generally, the installation procedure is the same as on an HDD. You don't need to tweak anything.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
I believe the tutorial goes through that just so Trim is on you'll be good,
You can verify using this "if" the tutorial does not show it,
http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/275710-show-us-your-wei-4-a-162.html#post2915619

 

[Alexey2912]

1. Meant the WD Scorpio Black that took out of the lap to replace with SSD. I know it's not a SSD.

2. Gonna install W7 on laptop 1st.

3. 40 GB for W7 and apps on laptop with 4 GB RAM, and with a 120 GB SSD.

4. Shall be storing data on usb HDD on both machines not on SSD.

Thanks.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

1. Meant the WD Scorpio Black that took out of the lap to replace with SSD. I know it's not a SSD.

2. Gonna install W7 on laptop 1st.

3. 40 GB for W7 and apps on laptop with 4 GB RAM, and with a 120 GB SSD.

4. Shall be storing data on usb HDD on both machines not on SSD.

Thanks.

If the laptop has a 120 GB SSD and you do NOT intend to store any data on that SSD, then I'd just use a single partition on the SSD. You'll end up with about 112 usable C, using 40, with about 72 free for future growth.

An alternative would be to store data on the SSD, possibly in a separate partition, and then use the external for backup. But you may have that covered already or may not want to backup.

Disconnect EVERYTHING but keyboard and mouse before you begin the install. The external drive should NOT be connected.

What about the desktop?

 

[Alexey2912]

Hi,
I believe the tutorial goes through that just so Trim is on you'll be good,
You can verify using this "if" the tutorial does not show it,
http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/275710-show-us-your-wei-4-a-162.html#post2915619

Hi

What is DisableDeleteNotify?

Do I need to turn off regedit?

Thanks again.

 

[Alexey2912]

1. Desktop 240 GB SSD, 45 GB used by W7, 2GB of RAM.

2. Disconnect all including usb devices........correct?

3. Desktop has a infra red key board and mouse?

Thanks.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
I believe after installing the os you'd just verify it's set to 0,
http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/275710-show-us-your-wei-4-a-162.html#post2915666

ignatzatsonic
Can take you the rest of the way he's an expert at this sort of thing

 

[ignatzatsonic]

1. Desktop 240 GB SSD, 45 GB used by W7, 2GB of RAM.

2. Disconnect all including usb devices........correct?

3. Desktop has a infra red key board and mouse?

Thanks.

Yes, disconnect all external devices not needed during installation, USB or otherwise--drives, printers. Leave connected only what's necessary to run your keyboard and mouse.

With 45 used and a 240 GB drive, you'll have a lot of empty space on that drive, but if you don't want to keep data on it, just use a single partition.

With both machines, you could make your partitions in advance to avoid having a "System Reserved" partition if you want. That's optional entirely. You'd end up with C only. If you don't make the partitions in advance, you will end up with a C and a System Reserved, the latter being very small. The only reason to have a System Reserved is if you want to use "BitLocker", which most people would never use. System Reserved is entirely a matter of personal preference. I don't use it.

 

[Alexey2912]

Thanks ThrashZone for all your prompt expert assistance.

 

[Alexey2912]

Yes, disconnect all external devices not needed during installation, USB or otherwise--drives, printers. Leave connected only what's necessary to run your keyboard and mouse.

With 45 used and a 240 GB drive, you'll have a lot of empty space on that drive, but if you don't want to keep data on it, just use a single partition.

With both machines, you could make your partitions in advance to avoid having a "System Reserved" partition if you want. That's optional entirely. You'd end up with C only. If you don't make the partitions in advance, you will end up with a C and a System Reserved, the latter being very small. The only reason to have a System Reserved is if you want to use "BitLocker", which most people would never use. System Reserved is entirely a matter of personal preference. I don't use it.

From what I understand from your post, If I give all to C, shall have 2 partitions System Reserved and C.

If I decide to make another partition on desktop's SSD, shall have 3 System Reserved, C and D........correct?

System reserved is not needed for SSD drives?

For Data have 2 usb HDD enclosures for each.

Thanks.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi
No problem been there

One thing I should mention is unless your interested in updating to windows 10 you might want to hide these four windows updates during the long update process
These 4 updates are all related to win-10 and alerting you when it's ready,

 

[ignatzatsonic]

see comments in bold

From what I understand from your post, If I give all to C, shall have 2 partitions System Reserved and C.

Yes. Specifically, if you just boot from the installation disc and let Windows make all partitions DURING the installation, you'll end up with System Reserved of about 100 MB and a C for the entire remainder.


If I decide to make another partition on desktop's SSD, shall have 3 System Reserved, C and D........correct?

Yes. You'd tell Windows to install Windows on a partition whose size you choose. That would end up being C. The System Reserved would be made automatically during the installation. You'd end up with System Reserved, C, and a bunch of unallocated space. After the Windows installation was complete, you could go into Windows Disk Management and make a D from that unallocated space.

Before the install, I'd probably go to the PC manufacturer's web site and download the Ethernet (aka "NIC") driver for both machines. Windows should supply it from the install disc during installation, but that is not 100% certain. It's critical to getting on the Internet immediately after installation, so I'd get the Ethernet drivers for both and put them on a USB stick in case Windows fails to provide them.

Your first task after installation should be to get anti-virus going and then go to Windows Update and get at least critical and important updates for both machines.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

System reserved is not needed for SSD drives?

System Reserved is not needed for ANY drive--SSD or HDD. Unless you want to use Bitlocker.

 

[Alexey2912]

Hi
No problem been there

One thing I should mention is unless your interested in updating to windows 10 you might want to hide these four windows updates during the long update process
These 4 updates are all related to win-10 and alerting you when it's ready,
View attachment 358851

Dont wanna update so I shouldn't install them......correct?

What should the update settings be for them........show but don't install?

Thanks.

 

[Alexey2912]

see comments in bold

From what I understand from your post, If I give all to C, shall have 2 partitions System Reserved and C.

Yes. Specifically, if you just boot from the installation disc and let Windows make all partitions DURING the installation, you'll end up with System Reserved of about 100 MB and a C for the entire remainder.


If I decide to make another partition on desktop's SSD, shall have 3 System Reserved, C and D........correct?

Yes. You'd tell Windows to install Windows on a partition whose size you choose. That would end up being C. The System Reserved would be made automatically during the installation. You'd end up with System Reserved, C, and a bunch of unallocated space. After the Windows installation was complete, you could go into Windows Disk Management and make a D from that unallocated space.

Before the install, I'd probably go to the PC manufacturer's web site and download the Ethernet (aka "NIC") driver for both machines. Windows should supply it from the install disc during installation, but that is not 100% certain. It's critical to getting on the Internet immediately after installation, so I'd get the Ethernet drivers for both and put them on a USB stick in case Windows fails to provide them.

Your first task after installation should be to get anti-virus going and then go to Windows Update and get at least critical and important updates for both machines.

How can one not have a System reserved partition, during installation?

And what exactly is the purpose of Bit locker?

Thanks again.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

How can one not have a System reserved partition, during installation?

And what exactly is the purpose of Bit locker?

Bitlocker is an encryption method you might use if you wanted to protect your data from prying eyes.

I'm not sure anyone on this forum uses it. There are other encryption methods if you decide you need that feature.

To avoid System Reserved, you would boot from the installation DVD, hit shift F10 when you get to the "choose your language" screen. That will put you at a command prompt, at which point you would run the Diskpart command, followed by a series of other commands that would make a C partition of your desired size.

You'd then leave Diskpart and continue with the installation. When you get to the screen that asks "where do you want to install Windows", you'd tell it to use the C partition you just made. You'd end up without a System Reserved.

But why would you want to do that?

 

[Alexey2912]

Thanks for the explanation, appreciate it.