Starting out with VM

mjf

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I'm new to VMs and want to start learning by using (safely).
I'm thinking of VirtualBox or VMWARE for running UBUNTU and legacy DOS.
Any recommendations would be welcome.
Also thinking of installing on an external HDD to start with - is that possible?
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Own build
OS
Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
CPU
Intel i7 2600k
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe
Memory
G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+)
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
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Samsung 850 Pro SSD 256GB, Samsung SSD 840 120GB, Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS x2
PSU
Seasonic M12II 520W
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Lian Li Lancool PC-K60
Cooling
Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+
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Logitech MK520 (wireless)
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Logitech MK520
Internet Speed
6-7 Mbps
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Norton Security Premium, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC)
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FireFox
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Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1
I would suggest either VMware Player or Workstation. As far as an external HDD, you could install your VMs on there however, the performance penalty in my view is not worth it as they usually run slower than traditional hard drives and are usually USB 2, which is not all that fast for this.
 

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OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i3 530 2.93 Ghz Clarkdale
Motherboard
ASRock P55 PRO/USB3 LGA 1156
Memory
4 GB OCZ DDR3 1600 (PC12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti with 1 GB of RAM
Sound Card
Realtek HD ALC892
Monitor(s) Displays
20'' eMachines E202HDbmd Glare Panel Widescreen
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
Western Digital 1 TB Caviar Black Edition (7200 RPM) SATA
Hitachi Deskstar 500 GB (7200 RPM) SATA
Samsung SpinPoint 400 GB (7200 RPM) SATA
PSU
Rosewill Xtreme Series RX750-D-B ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V (750W)
Case
Cooler Master Centurion 534 RC-534-KKN2-GP Mid-Tower
Cooling
Standard Case Fans and Stock CPU Heatsink
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop Elite
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop Elite
Internet Speed
7.1 Mbps Verizon DSL
i currently run Ubuntu Linux, WinXP, Win3.11 and DOS6.22 on my Win7 computer using VirtualBox with all my Guests stored on my external HD through USB 2. I have had no problems, and I certainly dont have any speed problems. Good luck, and dont hesitate to ask questions.
 

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HP dv6519tx
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
1.80 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor T7100
Memory
3 gig ddr2
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NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
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15.4” WXGA High Definition BrightView Widescreen
Screen Resolution
1280 x 800
Hard Drives
Hitachi 320 GB (5400 rpm)
PSU
90 W AC Power Adapter
Cooling
Kitchen plate under the lappy
Keyboard
101 key compatible
Mouse
Touch Pad with On/Off button and dedicated vertical Scroll
Internet Speed
Three Wireless internet prepaid using E160G USB dongle
Thanks for the responses.
There seemed to quite a few negative comments on VirtualBox a while back. But what you've got going Pusspa looks good.

Another few VM novice question if I may:
(1) Am I right in assuming that the virtual environments are in effect applications running on top of Windows 7.
(2) Can they interfere with key windows 7 boot parameters that exist in the MBR (the real one on the first sector) or the BCD store.
(3) A little off topic... where can you get legacy OSs like XP and DOS6 when you don't seem to be able to buy them anymore.
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Own build
OS
Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
CPU
Intel i7 2600k
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe
Memory
G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+)
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro SSD 256GB, Samsung SSD 840 120GB, Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS x2
PSU
Seasonic M12II 520W
Case
Lian Li Lancool PC-K60
Cooling
Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+
Keyboard
Logitech MK520 (wireless)
Mouse
Logitech MK520
Internet Speed
6-7 Mbps
Antivirus
Norton Security Premium, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC)
Browser
FireFox
Other Info
Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1
Yes, it's essentially an application (guest) running on top of Windows 7 (host). It's isolated that it won't affect your primary system (in this case, Windows 7) in any way during bootup. You can try ebay for older software such as XP/DOS 6, although curious to why you would want to do that.

Important thing is to have enough memory on your computer, so you can evenly distribute it.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Optiplex 755
OS
Windows 7 Professional (32-bit)
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.00GHz - Wolfdale 45nm Technology
Motherboard
Dell Inc. 0R092H (CPU)
Memory
4.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 399MHz (6-6-6-18)
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) Q35 Express Chipset Family
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device (built-in)
Monitor(s) Displays
Viore 24" LED LCD HDTV
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 (32 bits per pixel @ 60 Hz)
Hard Drives
156GB Seagate ST3160815AS ATA Device
Keyboard
Dell
Mouse
Dell
Internet Speed
3.0 Mbits/sec @ Verizon DSL
Thanks Slam
For both XP and DOS the interest is legacy applications.
For DOS I have a Fortran compiler (16 bit) which cost ~$1000 in it's day and wrote many simulations using it. Although I have modern 32 bit compilers the old one has a nostalgic value.

The main use of the VM will be for running linux and other applications in a "safe" environment and be able to move back & forward across OSs.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Own build
OS
Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
CPU
Intel i7 2600k
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe
Memory
G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+)
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro SSD 256GB, Samsung SSD 840 120GB, Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS x2
PSU
Seasonic M12II 520W
Case
Lian Li Lancool PC-K60
Cooling
Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+
Keyboard
Logitech MK520 (wireless)
Mouse
Logitech MK520
Internet Speed
6-7 Mbps
Antivirus
Norton Security Premium, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC)
Browser
FireFox
Other Info
Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1
Thanks Slam
For both XP and DOS the interest is legacy applications.
For DOS I have a Fortran compiler (16 bit) which cost ~$1000 in it's day and wrote many simulations using it. Although I have modern 32 bit compilers the old one has a nostalgic value.

The main use of the VM will be for running linux and other applications in a "safe" environment and be able to move back & forward across OSs.

Sounds like VM would definitely be the way to go for all your listed needs.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Optiplex 755
OS
Windows 7 Professional (32-bit)
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.00GHz - Wolfdale 45nm Technology
Motherboard
Dell Inc. 0R092H (CPU)
Memory
4.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 399MHz (6-6-6-18)
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) Q35 Express Chipset Family
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device (built-in)
Monitor(s) Displays
Viore 24" LED LCD HDTV
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 (32 bits per pixel @ 60 Hz)
Hard Drives
156GB Seagate ST3160815AS ATA Device
Keyboard
Dell
Mouse
Dell
Internet Speed
3.0 Mbits/sec @ Verizon DSL
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