Startup and shutdown taking a long time!

Nos2001

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Hi there!

I hope that someone can offer me some help!

I have just built my new PC:

Intel Core i7 5820K @ 3.3Ghz
Gigabyte X99-Gaming 5 Motherboard
Gigabyte GTX970 GFX Card
Corsair Vengeance 16Gb RAM @ 2100Mhz
Corsair CS650M PSU
Samsung 840 EVO SSD
Steelseries Sensei [RAW]

My issue is that it takes longer to boot up and shutdown than my old PC:

AMD Phenom II x4 965 @ 3.4Ghz
Gigabyte 970A-DS3 Motherboard
XFX HD6850 GFX Card
Geil Black Dragon 8Gb RAM @ 1600Mhz
Corsair CS500 PSU
OCZ Vertex3 SSD 120Gb
Steelseries Sensei [RAW]

My old PC would not even finish the swirling flag at startup, and now it not only finishes forming the flag but also hangs around for a while afterwards.

I have checked Event Viewer and there are no errors or warnings on startup. I have also run the Windows Memory Diagnostics tool, which found no errors.

Having read many forums on the X99 chipset, people have said that there are still some issue with performance, which need to be ironed out, but having said that, a friend of mine also built exactly the same PC, bar the SSD (Kingston Hyper X), and his boots up virtually without even showing the swirling flag. So... I'm stumped and am hoping someone here can help me out a little?

As an additional comment, it seems to take a lot longer to shutdown than my old PC too.

As you can possibly imagine, having spent a sizable figure on this new PC, compared to my old one, I am a little bothered!

If anyone can help me out, I would be most grateful :)

Thanks and regards,

Nos.
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
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Custom build
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 5820K 3.3Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-X99-Gaming 5
Memory
Corsair Vengeance DDR4 16Gb
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte GTX970
Hard Drives
Samsung SSD 840 EVO 250Gb
Seagate HDD 2Tb
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Comodo Internet Security
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Chrome
Hi there!

I hope that someone can offer me some help!

I have just built my new PC:

Intel Core i7 5820K @ 3.3Ghz
Gigabyte X99-Gaming 5 Motherboard
Gigabyte GTX970 GFX Card
Corsair Vengeance 16Gb RAM @ 2100Mhz
Corsair CS650M PSU
Samsung 840 EVO SSD
Steelseries Sensei [RAW]

My issue is that it takes longer to boot up and shutdown than my old PC:

AMD Phenom II x4 965 @ 3.4Ghz
Gigabyte 970A-DS3 Motherboard
XFX HD6850 GFX Card
Geil Black Dragon 8Gb RAM @ 1600Mhz
Corsair CS500 PSU
OCZ Vertex3 SSD 120Gb
Steelseries Sensei [RAW]

My old PC would not even finish the swirling flag at startup, and now it not only finishes forming the flag but also hangs around for a while afterwards.

I have checked Event Viewer and there are no errors or warnings on startup. I have also run the Windows Memory Diagnostics tool, which found no errors.

Having read many forums on the X99 chipset, people have said that there are still some issue with performance, which need to be ironed out, but having said that, a friend of mine also built exactly the same PC, bar the SSD (Kingston Hyper X), and his boots up virtually without even showing the swirling flag. So... I'm stumped and am hoping someone here can help me out a little?

As an additional comment, it seems to take a lot longer to shutdown than my old PC too.

As you can possibly imagine, having spent a sizable figure on this new PC, compared to my old one, I am a little bothered!

If anyone can help me out, I would be most grateful :)

Thanks and regards,

Nos.

How do you measure the term "long"? It's subjective and there can be a vast difference between what you may think and someone else thinks. With that being said, what is the time frame for your system to boot and shutdown?

There was a post recently in this forum that it took someone 15 minutes to boot their system, that certainly qualifies as a long time in my book.
 

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Custom Built
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
Intel i5 quad processor
Motherboard
DP67BG
Memory
16 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon HD 5770
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster
Screen Resolution
1920X1080
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WD 2TB (SATA Internal)
WD 1TB (USB External)
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Corsair GS800
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Tower (Generic)
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3 Internal Fans
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MS Wireless
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MS Optical Wired
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Emsisoft
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Well, as I think I mentioned in my post, my old PC didn't finish creating the flag/window. In fact it only got about half way through before changing to the Logon/welcome screen. The new PC finishes creating the flag/window. As for how many seconds... Hmm, as a guess I would say the old PC took 8-10 seconds to get to the welcome screen, whereas the new PC takes 15+ seconds.

Now I know to some people that is a very small thing to be concerned about, but after spending a lot of money on this new rig, with the idea that Intel is quicker than AMD, I am disappointed that it takes longer to boot up.

As for shutdown times, my old PC would literally be immediate shutdown, whereas the new PC seems to drag its feet and takes a good 3 seconds to drop from desktop to shutdown screen.

Again, let me re-iterate, I know in the grand scheme of things this is hardly something to be concerned with, but, after being convinced by many people that Intel is better/quicker than AMD, I am amazed to find in this case, it is not...

Furthermore, all of the chipset, BIOS and hardware drivers are up-to-date. And no errors or warnings in Event Viewer.

Many thanks for your quick response and I hope that the above answers your questions.

Nos.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom build
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 5820K 3.3Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-X99-Gaming 5
Memory
Corsair Vengeance DDR4 16Gb
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte GTX970
Hard Drives
Samsung SSD 840 EVO 250Gb
Seagate HDD 2Tb
Antivirus
Comodo Internet Security
Browser
Chrome
Well, as I think I mentioned in my post, my old PC didn't finish creating the flag/window. In fact it only got about half way through before changing to the Logon/welcome screen. The new PC finishes creating the flag/window. As for how many seconds... Hmm, as a guess I would say the old PC took 8-10 seconds to get to the welcome screen, whereas the new PC takes 15+ seconds.

Now I know to some people that is a very small thing to be concerned about, but after spending a lot of money on this new rig, with the idea that Intel is quicker than AMD, I am disappointed that it takes longer to boot up.

As for shutdown times, my old PC would literally be immediate shutdown, whereas the new PC seems to drag its feet and takes a good 3 seconds to drop from desktop to shutdown screen.

Again, let me re-iterate, I know in the grand scheme of things this is hardly something to be concerned with, but, after being convinced by many people that Intel is better/quicker than AMD, I am amazed to find in this case, it is not...

Furthermore, all of the chipset, BIOS and hardware drivers are up-to-date. And no errors or warnings in Event Viewer.

Many thanks for your quick response and I hope that the above answers your questions.

Nos.

Your times are very quick! The comparison of one system to another is never going to be an accurate measurement because there are going to be differences between the machines, no matter how subtle.

Just for the heck of it, run "msconfig" and disable all "Startup" items except for those from Microsoft. Does that improve the time factor? Whether or not there is a change, startup and shutdown have no effect on the performance as you probably already know.

HTH
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
Intel i5 quad processor
Motherboard
DP67BG
Memory
16 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon HD 5770
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster
Screen Resolution
1920X1080
Hard Drives
WD 2TB (SATA Internal)
WD 1TB (USB External)
PSU
Corsair GS800
Case
Tower (Generic)
Cooling
3 Internal Fans
Keyboard
MS Wireless
Mouse
MS Optical Wired
Internet Speed
54 mbps
Antivirus
Emsisoft
Browser
IE-Version 9, Palemoon-Version 24.2.0
Your times are very quick! The comparison of one system to another is never going to be an accurate measurement because there are going to be differences between the machines, no matter how subtle.


HTH

Exactly what Sir George said! You just can't ever compare two systems and expect precise results.



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PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 x64
Driver Issue?

It may be a driver issue.

I had an annoying issue caused by 3rd party SATA Controller driver.
It only started after I installed a new HDD a couple of weeks ago.

Two symptoms I had were slow BIOS load (the OS would load normally though) and slow Windows shutdown.
Both were taking ~20 seconds.

I couldn't find any error messages that seemed related (in the Event Viewer).
I didn't search every log, as there are too many of them.

You may need to completely uninstall your drivers and then reinstall them one-at-a-time to see if they are responsible. :(
 

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W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
Memory
12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Sound Card
Realtek?
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S23B350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD Green 2TB (SATA), WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
PSU
Cooler Master
Case
Antec GX300 Tower
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3x Antec TRICOOL 120mm Fans
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Wired Optical
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DSL
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Avast
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Pale Moon (64 bit)
Other Info
2018-12-27 Upgraded HDDs
2015-12-10 Upgraded case, graphics card, storage
2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2
One can hunt and peck for a 5 sec. improvement forever. Their are just to many things or a combinations of things that can effect a computer.
After doing the msconfig/Startup I would suggest just adjusting yourself and live with it.
Boot times is not the most important thing to conceder.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
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XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
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100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
Compare the install you did with the perfect Reinstall compiled in link below picture, especially how drivers and freeloading programs starting with Windows are handled.
 
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