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hi i heard someone said on these forums to stay away from windows 7 backups which only does incremental backups, he uses norton or macreum or something, ? what is a good back up software program? help please, thanks
 

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windows XP professional service pack 2
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XP windows Professional
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intel core 2 Duo/ E8400 3.00 Ghz
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Gigabyte EP355-DS3
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3.50 GB
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Gigabyte 512MB 8800GT
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Many different opionions on whats best. The best depends on exactlly what/how you want to backup and what features you need or want.

Personally, I like Acronis. macrium Reflect is another favorite around here.
Windows built in backup works OK, but it just doesnt have as much flexibility and options as some of the other 3rd party solutions do (even the free ones). Some are fine with it, other need more.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom (Self Build)
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 2700k
Motherboard
eVGA P67 SLI
Memory
8GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks @1866
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX570 SC
Sound Card
XiFi Titanium HD
Monitor(s) Displays
LG W2453V
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel 320 80GB -- Intel X25-V 40GB --WD Black 1TB x2 -- WD Blue 640GB
PSU
Seasonic x750
Case
Corsair 600T SE White
Cooling
eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler
Keyboard
Saitek Cyborg
Antivirus
Kaspersky
Browser
IE
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LG BD/DVD

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom build
OS
Win7 Home Premium x64 SP1
CPU
i7 4770k
Motherboard
Asus maximus VI Hero
Memory
8Gb Kingston HyperX Beast 2400MHz @2133MHz 11-12-11-30
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTX 780ti Gaming Oc x2
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Onboard ROG SupremeFX
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Asus VG248QE
Screen Resolution
3840X1080 144Hz
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Samung Evo 256Gb, OCZ Agility4 128Gb
1x1TB hitachi storage
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EVGA Supernova 1000w Platinum
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Corsair Air 540
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Corsair H100i
Keyboard
Coolermaster Quickfire Pro
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Corsair M65 RGB
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74mb dwn/16up
Antivirus
MSE,Malwarebytes
Browser
Chrome
Here after numerous full system image backups I found the built-in option for creating a full image reliable. I would generally use that option over scheduling incremental backups since I store all files needed on other drives backing things up from the host as I go along.

The extras in Acronis True Image were worth the investment there since you can take a full system image and mount it as a second C drive to add or remove files from the image itself as if it was seccond drive of it's own. That also has the option for one click backup once you select the files and folders frrom specific partitions.

With any backup one thing to note is testing the backup to see if all went well. Having a second OS drive here to test a full image backup for example shows whether or not the image made will work in case it is needed at some point to restore the main drive.
 

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System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    Custom builds = 2
    OS
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 2nd remote pc
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4-Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Hyper X Fury 8gb 2nd
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Audio P - Realtek onooard 2nd case
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS VW199T-P 19" HP 2082a Main-HP 2082a 20" remote pc
    Screen Resolution
    Asus 1440x900 - HP 1600x900
    Hard Drives
    WD Black 1TB HD per OS W7, W10, and pending W11 presently on 500gb OS Drive - Pending Triple 1TB HDs for Spanned Storage/backup volume
    Single 2TB external USB enclosure, single 1TB System 7 Host/Boot drive, Pending 8TB external HD for system image b
    PSU
    Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second
    Case
    Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900A
    Keyboard
    AZIO L70 Backlit Letters Gaming - ONN Cordless/USB
    Mouse
    MSI DS200 Programmable, Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi
    Antivirus
    GFI VIPRE Internet Security 2014 on W7 2016 beta on W10,
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    Cyberfox, WaterFox 64bit FF variants, FireFox x64, Pale Moon
    Other Info
    Accomdata fan cooled usb 2.0 PIDE/Sata II, III external enclosure.
    Sambient usb/eSata PATA/Sata II, III external enclosure.
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    CUSTOM ASSEMBLY
    OS
    W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Deneb 3.6ghz - 965
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X Fury 8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 6450 DVI Output
    Sound Card
    Realtek onooard Creative or Other separate PENDING
    Monitor(s) Displays
    VIZIO 32" LCD TV Separate LCD Pending
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD 500GB OS Host/Boot WD Green 1TB Storage/Backup
    PSU
    Corsair 600W - THERMALTAKE 600W spare case
    Case
    NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Twin 120mm Top Fans - 240mm Side Cover
    Keyboard
    ONN Cordless/USB Logitech Cordless
    Mouse
    ONN USB/Cordless - Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    DSL 5G
    Browser
    MS Edge, FireFox, WaterFox x64, FireFox Nightly
    Other Info
    OS Testing-Remote Access to Main TeamViewer
I've been using Windows 7 since it was released to the public in Oct 2009. I've also been using the native imaging tool since that time and I haven't had any issues. With an eSata connection the images are fast and reliable. But because of the info and horror stories I've read at Seven Forums, I also use Macrium Free. And I use two external hard drives to store the images.

You probably won't know an image failed until you try to use it. And then it's too late. So I'm thinking if a 7 image fails chances are the Macrium image will be good. And if external drive 2 fails, external drive 1 will probably be good. It's called redundancy. ( Or being anal if you talk to some folks who know me. :) )
 

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Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Sony Vaio VPCEB47GM Laptop
OS
Win 7 Pro 64-bit
CPU
Intel i5 2.4 Ghz
Memory
8GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD 3000
Sound Card
IDT High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6 WGXA Anti-Glare LED
Screen Resolution
1280x800
Hard Drives
640Gb 7200rpm
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
Opera (primary) with IE9 backup
Here I can test any image simply by having a second OS drive I had planned to have following testing 7 plus upgrading into a newer build. I can wipe the second drive at any time once I have verified the integrity of an image created by the Windows backup option or with any 3rd party program.

Initially back in the spring of 2009 I gave the Macruim Reflect a lookover but a simply change in drive letter Reflect labeled the image as invalid when browsing to the folder it was being stored in. With Windows or Acronis on the other hand you may see a drive letter change especially with an external drive you unplug and replug at some point and need to browse to a folder where an image is kept and suddenly either option goes to work.

Here I would be using two options anyways since the images tend to grow in size like 347gb justt seen once all the programs were bakc on the lates clean install of 7! Previously the last one was about 421gb after cleaning up from another 497gb image.

The important thing to remember with any program being used is not to be busy with other apps not just av and other security programs while seeing an image made. Other programs can clash and disrupt the process where then you are more likely to see fails.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    Custom builds = 2
    OS
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 2nd remote pc
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4-Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Hyper X Fury 8gb 2nd
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Audio P - Realtek onooard 2nd case
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS VW199T-P 19" HP 2082a Main-HP 2082a 20" remote pc
    Screen Resolution
    Asus 1440x900 - HP 1600x900
    Hard Drives
    WD Black 1TB HD per OS W7, W10, and pending W11 presently on 500gb OS Drive - Pending Triple 1TB HDs for Spanned Storage/backup volume
    Single 2TB external USB enclosure, single 1TB System 7 Host/Boot drive, Pending 8TB external HD for system image b
    PSU
    Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second
    Case
    Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900A
    Keyboard
    AZIO L70 Backlit Letters Gaming - ONN Cordless/USB
    Mouse
    MSI DS200 Programmable, Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi
    Antivirus
    GFI VIPRE Internet Security 2014 on W7 2016 beta on W10,
    Browser
    Cyberfox, WaterFox 64bit FF variants, FireFox x64, Pale Moon
    Other Info
    Accomdata fan cooled usb 2.0 PIDE/Sata II, III external enclosure.
    Sambient usb/eSata PATA/Sata II, III external enclosure.
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    CUSTOM ASSEMBLY
    OS
    W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Deneb 3.6ghz - 965
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X Fury 8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 6450 DVI Output
    Sound Card
    Realtek onooard Creative or Other separate PENDING
    Monitor(s) Displays
    VIZIO 32" LCD TV Separate LCD Pending
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD 500GB OS Host/Boot WD Green 1TB Storage/Backup
    PSU
    Corsair 600W - THERMALTAKE 600W spare case
    Case
    NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Twin 120mm Top Fans - 240mm Side Cover
    Keyboard
    ONN Cordless/USB Logitech Cordless
    Mouse
    ONN USB/Cordless - Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    DSL 5G
    Browser
    MS Edge, FireFox, WaterFox x64, FireFox Nightly
    Other Info
    OS Testing-Remote Access to Main TeamViewer
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