Solved Strange PSU fault.

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This morning I noticed my GPU's (CF7950's) didn't seem to be as snappy as normal. Popped the side panel and I see I don't have power to the second card. Do some basic checking and I find the connector for the second card has no output. Cable continuity is good, no power at the PSU plug, poop the bed!

This is a Thermaltake Smart M series 850 watt unit that is never pushed over 500 watts, according to the APU watt gadget. Ten months old, oh well. I check out Thermaltakes RMA process, poop the bed again! If I send the PSU in I may in six weeks, receive a used/refurbed unit as replacement from the "pool".

Off to buy a new PSU. The Sea Sonic X850 is at the top of the list, anyone have this psu?
 

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AMD and Intell, 9590, 8350, i5 3570k
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Corsair AX1200i, Seasonice 850 Gold
Case
Cooler Master HAF 922 & HAF 932, Lian Li Train case.
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Air, Glacer 240L expanded, custom EK loop with duel D5's
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Microsoft SideWinder X4 USB Keyboard / Logitech 250 PS2
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Logitech G500 / MS wireless 5000
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Best of 5ms / 75+ dn / 12+ up More or less.
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MS esentials-MalwareBytes
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I have a 650 series seasonic, very good psu's, you will be happy
 

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Dude Build
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Windows 10 Pro X64
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU OC@ 4.5GHZ Turbo
Motherboard
MSI Z77A-G45 Gaming
Memory
8.00 GB DDR3 1600Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
MSI Gaming X GTX 1070
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Realtek High Definition
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Dell S23O9W, HP L1710
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DELL-1920 x 1080 HP-1280 x1024
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Crucial m4 256 SSD, WD 7200RPM 500GB WD 1TB
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Seasonic X650 GOLD
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Zalman Z12
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Antec Kuhler 920
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Logitech
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MSI DS100 Interceptor
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50 down and 5 up
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MSE
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Chrome, IE 11
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Logitech X-620 Speakers
Thanks, narrowed it down to either a Seasonic 850 gold or a Cooler Master 850 gold. Going to check the rma process on both.
 

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Custom, Dell and Lenono LT's
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Win8/8.1,Win7-U64, Vista U64, uncounted Linux distor's
CPU
AMD and Intell, 9590, 8350, i5 3570k
Motherboard
CFVFZ, GA990FXA, Z77e-itx
Memory
Corsair G Skill
Graphics Card(s)
Crossfired Sapphire HD 7950 Vapor-X, ASUS R9 280X TOP
Sound Card
Realtek ALC889
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ViewSonic VX2770SMH 27" / ViewSonic VX2433 LCD 24"
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Samsung SSD 840 Pro
OCZ Agility 3's
OCZ Vector's
WD's Blue, red, green, Velociraptors
Seagate USB3 & Hybrid's
ASUS Blu-Ray
ASUS DVD
PSU
Corsair AX1200i, Seasonice 850 Gold
Case
Cooler Master HAF 922 & HAF 932, Lian Li Train case.
Cooling
Air, Glacer 240L expanded, custom EK loop with duel D5's
Keyboard
Microsoft SideWinder X4 USB Keyboard / Logitech 250 PS2
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Logitech G500 / MS wireless 5000
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Best of 5ms / 75+ dn / 12+ up More or less.
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MS esentials-MalwareBytes
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Firefox Chromebook
I have the Seasonic 650 X series and it's crazy good.

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i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 miniITX
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MSI P67A-GD80 b3
Memory
32 gb G.Skill Sniper DDR3 10-12-12-31 @ 2133
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XFX Radeon 7870 2GB DDR5
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Sound Blaster Z Series Card
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(2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port
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1680 X 1050 p
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Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(1) 1 tb WD Black
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(2) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 3 tb Seagate Barracuda
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS
(1) Drobo 5N w/5 Seagate 3tb
PSU
EVGA modular 1000G2 80% gold rating & APC 1200 RS
Case
CoolerMaster Storm Styker
Cooling
7 case fans 140mm & 120mm, NZXT Kraken X60
Keyboard
(2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless
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Logitech G700 & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop
Internet Speed
Basic 120mbps down
Antivirus
Trend Micro Titanium Max Security & Malwarebytes Premium
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Chrome and IE 10
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5 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on NZXT cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd/Blu Ray optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro 8630 all-n-one
Hot-swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Netgear Nighthawk router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
Lenovo L420 i5 lappy with m sata
Drobo 5N advanced NAS
Thanks, narrowed it down to either a Seasonic 850 gold or a Cooler Master 850 gold. Going to check the rma process on both.

Seasonic 850 gold is a great supply - I have one. And pretty much completely silent with the hybrid fan mode. And a 5 yr warranty. You may want to look at their X 650 or 750. Sounds like you don't need 850. I only have that much watts because it was on sale for a very good price - quite a bit lower than the 650 or 750 at the time.

Newegg has these on sale often for good prices. I got the X-850 from there at $110.
 

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Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 4
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Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot
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i7 4770k 4.4GHz (44-44-43-43 turbo) @ 1.248V
Motherboard
ASUS Maximus VI Hero
Memory
16GB (8GBx2) @2200 MHz G.skill Sniper 10-11-10-30-1, 1.6V
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MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G
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Onboard SupremeFX Audio
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NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV
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1920 x 1200
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Samsung 850 Pro 256GB (OS), Samsung 2x 128GB 840 Pro SSD in RAID0, 3x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB RAID0, WD 2TB Black external USB 3.0, 2TB WD20EARS Green external USB 3.0, 2x 500GB Seagate and 1 750 GB external USB, 1x 350GB external USB3
PSU
Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model)
Case
Fractal Design Define R4
Cooling
NH-D14, NF-F12, NF-A15; NF-P14, NF-P12,NF-A14, S12A PWM
Keyboard
Cooler Master Storm Quickfire Rapid - Brown
Mouse
Logitech G602
Internet Speed
126.4 Mb/s down, 24.3 Mb/s up
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USB 3.0 x8 , SATA III x8, eSATA, USB 2.0 x6. Samsung DVD R/W drive.

WEI: CPU 7.8, Memory 7.9, Graphics 7.9, Disk 7.9
I should have a new Seasonic 850 gold two days from now.

After several hours of reading reviews and test data plus user feedback anything but Seasonic is foolish. J/K lots of good PSU's on the market, but the Seasonic has the highest user feedback of any brand I read about. It seems like you can find about 10% of users have problems even with quality PSU's, with Seasonic it's more like 1%, and they rode the short bus.
 

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Custom, Dell and Lenono LT's
OS
Win8/8.1,Win7-U64, Vista U64, uncounted Linux distor's
CPU
AMD and Intell, 9590, 8350, i5 3570k
Motherboard
CFVFZ, GA990FXA, Z77e-itx
Memory
Corsair G Skill
Graphics Card(s)
Crossfired Sapphire HD 7950 Vapor-X, ASUS R9 280X TOP
Sound Card
Realtek ALC889
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VX2770SMH 27" / ViewSonic VX2433 LCD 24"
Screen Resolution
1080i HD
Hard Drives
Samsung SSD 840 Pro
OCZ Agility 3's
OCZ Vector's
WD's Blue, red, green, Velociraptors
Seagate USB3 & Hybrid's
ASUS Blu-Ray
ASUS DVD
PSU
Corsair AX1200i, Seasonice 850 Gold
Case
Cooler Master HAF 922 & HAF 932, Lian Li Train case.
Cooling
Air, Glacer 240L expanded, custom EK loop with duel D5's
Keyboard
Microsoft SideWinder X4 USB Keyboard / Logitech 250 PS2
Mouse
Logitech G500 / MS wireless 5000
Internet Speed
Best of 5ms / 75+ dn / 12+ up More or less.
Antivirus
MS esentials-MalwareBytes
Browser
Firefox Chromebook
congrats mate, you will love it
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dude Build
OS
Windows 10 Pro X64
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU OC@ 4.5GHZ Turbo
Motherboard
MSI Z77A-G45 Gaming
Memory
8.00 GB DDR3 1600Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
MSI Gaming X GTX 1070
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S23O9W, HP L1710
Screen Resolution
DELL-1920 x 1080 HP-1280 x1024
Hard Drives
Crucial m4 256 SSD, WD 7200RPM 500GB WD 1TB
PSU
Seasonic X650 GOLD
Case
Zalman Z12
Cooling
Antec Kuhler 920
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
MSI DS100 Interceptor
Internet Speed
50 down and 5 up
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
Chrome, IE 11
Other Info
Logitech X-620 Speakers
So, never heard back. How is the new PSU for you?
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dude Build
OS
Windows 10 Pro X64
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU OC@ 4.5GHZ Turbo
Motherboard
MSI Z77A-G45 Gaming
Memory
8.00 GB DDR3 1600Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
MSI Gaming X GTX 1070
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S23O9W, HP L1710
Screen Resolution
DELL-1920 x 1080 HP-1280 x1024
Hard Drives
Crucial m4 256 SSD, WD 7200RPM 500GB WD 1TB
PSU
Seasonic X650 GOLD
Case
Zalman Z12
Cooling
Antec Kuhler 920
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
MSI DS100 Interceptor
Internet Speed
50 down and 5 up
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
Chrome, IE 11
Other Info
Logitech X-620 Speakers
The packaging is very nice, the 24 pin ATX cable is sleeved, the remainder are the flat style. The psu and cable set come in very nice bags, that you would never use after installing. I'd be happy with less window dressing and a lower price. Construction appears to be top notch, plenty of modular ports for mobo, pci and peripherals, way more than the Thermaltake 850 it's replacing. I'm temped to sell my AX1200i and get a Seasonic PLATINUM-1000 or SS-1050X for my 9590 project.

I need to set aside some time to install it and do a minor remodel while I'm inside the box.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom, Dell and Lenono LT's
OS
Win8/8.1,Win7-U64, Vista U64, uncounted Linux distor's
CPU
AMD and Intell, 9590, 8350, i5 3570k
Motherboard
CFVFZ, GA990FXA, Z77e-itx
Memory
Corsair G Skill
Graphics Card(s)
Crossfired Sapphire HD 7950 Vapor-X, ASUS R9 280X TOP
Sound Card
Realtek ALC889
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VX2770SMH 27" / ViewSonic VX2433 LCD 24"
Screen Resolution
1080i HD
Hard Drives
Samsung SSD 840 Pro
OCZ Agility 3's
OCZ Vector's
WD's Blue, red, green, Velociraptors
Seagate USB3 & Hybrid's
ASUS Blu-Ray
ASUS DVD
PSU
Corsair AX1200i, Seasonice 850 Gold
Case
Cooler Master HAF 922 & HAF 932, Lian Li Train case.
Cooling
Air, Glacer 240L expanded, custom EK loop with duel D5's
Keyboard
Microsoft SideWinder X4 USB Keyboard / Logitech 250 PS2
Mouse
Logitech G500 / MS wireless 5000
Internet Speed
Best of 5ms / 75+ dn / 12+ up More or less.
Antivirus
MS esentials-MalwareBytes
Browser
Firefox Chromebook
Yes they do package them quite nicely. I am very happy that I went them for my psu.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dude Build
OS
Windows 10 Pro X64
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU OC@ 4.5GHZ Turbo
Motherboard
MSI Z77A-G45 Gaming
Memory
8.00 GB DDR3 1600Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
MSI Gaming X GTX 1070
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S23O9W, HP L1710
Screen Resolution
DELL-1920 x 1080 HP-1280 x1024
Hard Drives
Crucial m4 256 SSD, WD 7200RPM 500GB WD 1TB
PSU
Seasonic X650 GOLD
Case
Zalman Z12
Cooling
Antec Kuhler 920
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
MSI DS100 Interceptor
Internet Speed
50 down and 5 up
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
Chrome, IE 11
Other Info
Logitech X-620 Speakers
It's a top flight product and I find most all premium PSU's will include a customer cable bag.....I think it's keeping up with the Jones kind of thing.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck.
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64
CPU
i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 miniITX
Motherboard
MSI P67A-GD80 b3
Memory
32 gb G.Skill Sniper DDR3 10-12-12-31 @ 2133
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon 7870 2GB DDR5
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Z Series Card
Monitor(s) Displays
(2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050 p
Hard Drives
Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(1) 1 tb WD Black
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(2) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 3 tb Seagate Barracuda
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS
(1) Drobo 5N w/5 Seagate 3tb
PSU
EVGA modular 1000G2 80% gold rating & APC 1200 RS
Case
CoolerMaster Storm Styker
Cooling
7 case fans 140mm & 120mm, NZXT Kraken X60
Keyboard
(2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless
Mouse
Logitech G700 & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop
Internet Speed
Basic 120mbps down
Antivirus
Trend Micro Titanium Max Security & Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Chrome and IE 10
Other Info
5 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on NZXT cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd/Blu Ray optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro 8630 all-n-one
Hot-swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Netgear Nighthawk router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
Lenovo L420 i5 lappy with m sata
Drobo 5N advanced NAS
It's a top flight product and I find most all premium PSU's will include a customer cable bag.....I think it's keeping up with the Jones kind of thing.

Those case photo's are nice, good wire routing and those Noc's are nice.

I'm stressing with my current build with the wiring. I have six bay devices, six added internal ubs2 headers, dual d5's. I swear there's a mile of wire inside.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom, Dell and Lenono LT's
OS
Win8/8.1,Win7-U64, Vista U64, uncounted Linux distor's
CPU
AMD and Intell, 9590, 8350, i5 3570k
Motherboard
CFVFZ, GA990FXA, Z77e-itx
Memory
Corsair G Skill
Graphics Card(s)
Crossfired Sapphire HD 7950 Vapor-X, ASUS R9 280X TOP
Sound Card
Realtek ALC889
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VX2770SMH 27" / ViewSonic VX2433 LCD 24"
Screen Resolution
1080i HD
Hard Drives
Samsung SSD 840 Pro
OCZ Agility 3's
OCZ Vector's
WD's Blue, red, green, Velociraptors
Seagate USB3 & Hybrid's
ASUS Blu-Ray
ASUS DVD
PSU
Corsair AX1200i, Seasonice 850 Gold
Case
Cooler Master HAF 922 & HAF 932, Lian Li Train case.
Cooling
Air, Glacer 240L expanded, custom EK loop with duel D5's
Keyboard
Microsoft SideWinder X4 USB Keyboard / Logitech 250 PS2
Mouse
Logitech G500 / MS wireless 5000
Internet Speed
Best of 5ms / 75+ dn / 12+ up More or less.
Antivirus
MS esentials-MalwareBytes
Browser
Firefox Chromebook
It's a top flight product and I find most all premium PSU's will include a customer cable bag.....I think it's keeping up with the Jones kind of thing.

Those case photo's are nice, good wire routing and those Noc's are nice.

I'm stressing with my current build with the wiring. I have six bay devices, six added internal ubs2 headers, dual d5's. I swear there's a mile of wire inside.

All sorts of cools stuff for just your situation. I'm a hdd nut and there's always a lot going on in the case.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck.
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64
CPU
i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 miniITX
Motherboard
MSI P67A-GD80 b3
Memory
32 gb G.Skill Sniper DDR3 10-12-12-31 @ 2133
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon 7870 2GB DDR5
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Z Series Card
Monitor(s) Displays
(2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050 p
Hard Drives
Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(1) 1 tb WD Black
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(2) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 3 tb Seagate Barracuda
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS
(1) Drobo 5N w/5 Seagate 3tb
PSU
EVGA modular 1000G2 80% gold rating & APC 1200 RS
Case
CoolerMaster Storm Styker
Cooling
7 case fans 140mm & 120mm, NZXT Kraken X60
Keyboard
(2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless
Mouse
Logitech G700 & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop
Internet Speed
Basic 120mbps down
Antivirus
Trend Micro Titanium Max Security & Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Chrome and IE 10
Other Info
5 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on NZXT cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd/Blu Ray optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro 8630 all-n-one
Hot-swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Netgear Nighthawk router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
Lenovo L420 i5 lappy with m sata
Drobo 5N advanced NAS
It's a top flight product and I find most all premium PSU's will include a customer cable bag.....I think it's keeping up with the Jones kind of thing.

Those case photo's are nice, good wire routing and those Noc's are nice.

I'm stressing with my current build with the wiring. I have six bay devices, six added internal ubs2 headers, dual d5's. I swear there's a mile of wire inside.

All sorts of cools stuff for just your situation. I'm a hdd nut and there's always a lot going on in the case.

I'm doing my first RAID setup with this build, a pair of 128 ssd's in raid0 and a pair of 600 Vraptors in raid0.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom, Dell and Lenono LT's
OS
Win8/8.1,Win7-U64, Vista U64, uncounted Linux distor's
CPU
AMD and Intell, 9590, 8350, i5 3570k
Motherboard
CFVFZ, GA990FXA, Z77e-itx
Memory
Corsair G Skill
Graphics Card(s)
Crossfired Sapphire HD 7950 Vapor-X, ASUS R9 280X TOP
Sound Card
Realtek ALC889
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VX2770SMH 27" / ViewSonic VX2433 LCD 24"
Screen Resolution
1080i HD
Hard Drives
Samsung SSD 840 Pro
OCZ Agility 3's
OCZ Vector's
WD's Blue, red, green, Velociraptors
Seagate USB3 & Hybrid's
ASUS Blu-Ray
ASUS DVD
PSU
Corsair AX1200i, Seasonice 850 Gold
Case
Cooler Master HAF 922 & HAF 932, Lian Li Train case.
Cooling
Air, Glacer 240L expanded, custom EK loop with duel D5's
Keyboard
Microsoft SideWinder X4 USB Keyboard / Logitech 250 PS2
Mouse
Logitech G500 / MS wireless 5000
Internet Speed
Best of 5ms / 75+ dn / 12+ up More or less.
Antivirus
MS esentials-MalwareBytes
Browser
Firefox Chromebook
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