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Gwaihir

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Hi, I'm trying to replace some files that have been flagged up as damaged by System File Checker. It can't repair the files as it reports the files in the store are also damaged. I have two almost identical desktop PCs both running Windows 7 Professional SP1. SFC has found damaged files on both but as they are different files I reasoned it should be possible to replace the damaged files with good copies from the other machine.

I've run across a problem in that when I try to copy a file onto the destination machine it reports I don't have permission. This is in spite of the fact my user accounts have Administrator privileges on both machines. It won't let me change the file permissions.

I'd be most grateful for any suggestions on how to overcome this problem.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home build
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
CPU
Pentium Core i5-2500 3.3GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte P61-USB3-B3
Memory
2 x 4GB DDR3 1333MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Asus GT440 1GB GDDR5
Sound Card
Realtek integrated sound
Monitor(s) Displays
LG L1942PE
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
2 x 1TB Western Digital WD10EARS, 1 x 1TB Seagate ST1000DM010
PSU
EVGA 450BR
Case
Novatech Panther ATX
Cooling
Sharkoon Silent Eagle 1000 120mm in case rear extracting
Keyboard
Logitech K120
Hi

as both comps have different SFC errors your only option is a repair install

Repair Install
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
medionl/Aspire 6930G/acer x55a
OS
W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
CPU
E5300 dual core
Motherboard
medion MS7366
Memory
3gb
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce 7100 Nforce 630i
Monitor(s) Displays
avixc
Internet Speed
n (isp resticted to 72)
Antivirus
mse/pands
Browser
palemoon
Other Info
Belkin Fd7050 n USB using Railink RT2870 drivers, more upto date
....SFC has found damaged files on both but as they are different files I reasoned it should be possible to replace the damaged files with good copies from the other machine.
I've run across a problem in that when I try to copy a file onto the destination machine it reports I don't have permission......

You cannot just replace damaged system files. Where are you trying to copy them to? System32? When SFC repair a system it gets the good copies from the WinSxS component store, manually editing that is a real minefield. Most of the files it contains are actually a single copy of the file that is made to appear in multiple locations due to the use of hardlinks. Modifying the contents of the component store yourself is a good way to break your system completely.

In Windows 8 and above there is a new DISM RestoreHealth command to repair the component store, but in Windows 7 that doesn't exist. Your best course of action is a repair install, as torchwood suggests.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    Laptop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    Toshiba satellite C650D
    OS
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
    CPU
    AMD V120
    Memory
    4GB
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Antivirus
    MSE
    Browser
    IE11, Edge, Firefox
    Other Info
    I also have W7 Pro on my System Two, and several W7 Hyper-V VMs. My other machines run Windows 10/11. Their specs are in my Ten Forums & Eleven Forum profiles.
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo Thinkpad T430
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro x64
    CPU
    Intel i5-3320M
    Memory
    8 GB
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO
    Other Info
    Antivirus: MSE
I was trying to do the repair as suggested in this Microsoft article but having looked at it again I think you're right. It's far too complicated, especially trying to type in the long folder names without errors and too much risk of bricking something.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home build
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
CPU
Pentium Core i5-2500 3.3GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte P61-USB3-B3
Memory
2 x 4GB DDR3 1333MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Asus GT440 1GB GDDR5
Sound Card
Realtek integrated sound
Monitor(s) Displays
LG L1942PE
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
2 x 1TB Western Digital WD10EARS, 1 x 1TB Seagate ST1000DM010
PSU
EVGA 450BR
Case
Novatech Panther ATX
Cooling
Sharkoon Silent Eagle 1000 120mm in case rear extracting
Keyboard
Logitech K120
.... having looked at it again I think you're right. It's far too complicated, especially trying to type in the long folder names without errors and too much risk of bricking something.


An in-place repair install reinstalls Windows while keeping all your installed programs and user files. For Windows 7 it is the safest way to repair your installed Windows.

Tutorial: Repair Install
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    Laptop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    Toshiba satellite C650D
    OS
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
    CPU
    AMD V120
    Memory
    4GB
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Antivirus
    MSE
    Browser
    IE11, Edge, Firefox
    Other Info
    I also have W7 Pro on my System Two, and several W7 Hyper-V VMs. My other machines run Windows 10/11. Their specs are in my Ten Forums & Eleven Forum profiles.
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo Thinkpad T430
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro x64
    CPU
    Intel i5-3320M
    Memory
    8 GB
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO
    Other Info
    Antivirus: MSE

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
Bree, thanks for that link. I'd found a similar guide from PC World but this has useful additional information.

SIW2, I have a GA-P61-USB3-B3. I'm not familiar with NVME. I've just looked it up on Wikipedia but can't see the relevance to what I'm going to be doing.

I should say at this point that the main reason for wanting to get this repair done is I'm hoping it might solve the problems I've been having that I described in this post.

Edit: Whilst looking through Networks again I've stumbled across the reason for the problem detailed in that post. It appears some software I'd installed that came with a Canon camera had set up another network for the camera. In some way (that I don't pretend to understand) this network seems to have been given greater priority over the home network. Having removed that network everything seems to be back to normal so the impetus to do a repair install is reduced.
 
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My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home build
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
CPU
Pentium Core i5-2500 3.3GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte P61-USB3-B3
Memory
2 x 4GB DDR3 1333MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Asus GT440 1GB GDDR5
Sound Card
Realtek integrated sound
Monitor(s) Displays
LG L1942PE
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
2 x 1TB Western Digital WD10EARS, 1 x 1TB Seagate ST1000DM010
PSU
EVGA 450BR
Case
Novatech Panther ATX
Cooling
Sharkoon Silent Eagle 1000 120mm in case rear extracting
Keyboard
Logitech K120
Spoke too soon. Turned the laptop on this morning and couldn't see it from the PC. Ping reports it as unreachable. Ping on the laptop also reports the PC as unreachable. Network diagnostics on both machines say the computer is correctly configured but the other one is not responding.

The only thing that's changed, as far as I know, is another Tuesday update on the Windows 10 laptop. Could that have screwed something?

Also, am I right in thinking Windows 10 doesn't support Homegroups? Is that likely to have any bearing on the problem?

The odd thing is this has only turned up in the last few months. For nearly 3 years since I bought the laptop it's all been working fine.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home build
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
CPU
Pentium Core i5-2500 3.3GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte P61-USB3-B3
Memory
2 x 4GB DDR3 1333MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Asus GT440 1GB GDDR5
Sound Card
Realtek integrated sound
Monitor(s) Displays
LG L1942PE
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
2 x 1TB Western Digital WD10EARS, 1 x 1TB Seagate ST1000DM010
PSU
EVGA 450BR
Case
Novatech Panther ATX
Cooling
Sharkoon Silent Eagle 1000 120mm in case rear extracting
Keyboard
Logitech K120
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