Time For A Upgrade?

CodgX80

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I just got starcraft 2 two days ago and it has been running slow and things in the game take about half a second to react to a command. I know that my computer isnt strong enough to run it, even with every possible setting on low. I have a AMD Athlon II x2 215 processor 2.70 GHz, 2.87 out of 3gb of ram free, a windows 7 64 bit operating system, the computer tower was made by compaq, and if it matters windows rates it 3.3. I need to upgrade something so that I can enjoy starcraft withought so much delay. I have no clue what to upgrade and since easter is comeing up soon I should be able to accumulate enough money to upgrade at least my ram or maybe my proccesor. If you have any idea what I should concider uprgrading pleae let me know. Also, I have all of my computer settings on low and use Gboost to stop any unessisary processes. Sorry for my bad spelling.
 

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as far as 3D games go, generally the most important component is the graphics card, which you haven't mentioned as yet.

StarCraft II System Requirements

The system requirements for the StarCraft II are as follows:

PC Minimum System Requirements:

  • Windows® XP/Windows Vista®/Windows® 7 (Updated with the latest Service Packs) with DirectX® 9.0c
  • 2.6 GHz Pentium® IV or equivalent AMD Athlon® processor
    [*]128 MB PCIe NVIDIA® GeForce® 6600 GT or ATI Radeon® 9800 PRO video card or better
  • 12 GB available HD space
  • 1 GB RAM (1.5 GB required for Windows Vista®/Windows® 7 users)
  • DVD-ROM drive
  • Broadband Internet connection
  • 1024X720 minimum display resolution

PC Recommended Specifications:

  • Windows Vista®/Windows® 7
  • Dual Core 2.4Ghz Processor
  • 2 GB RAM
    [*]512 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800 GTX or ATI Radeon® HD 3870 or better
*Note: Due to potential programming changes, the Minimum System Requirements for this game may change over time.

please note that upgrading the graphics card can sometimes mean having to upgrade your power supply unit as well.

help us to help you by providing full system specs.
 

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mickey megabyte 1234
OS
ultimate 64 sp1
CPU
i5 2500K [email protected]
Motherboard
MSI P67A-GD53
Memory
8 gigs GSkill Ripjaws 1600
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amd hd6950
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creative x-fi gamer
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samsung 24"
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1920x1080
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ocz vertex 2e 60 gig, samsung f3 1tb, buffalo 2tb ext
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antec 550
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antec three hundred
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i'm a cooling fan
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saitek eclipse ii
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logitech g3
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about 4 Mbps
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i love win7
I see what you mean and I don't know much about graphics cards but I think I have a NVIDIA GeForce 6160SE nForce 430 (if that even is the name of the graphics card)
which if it is I doubt that it could run sc2 with ease.
 

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I see what you mean and I don't know much about graphics cards but I think I have a NVIDIA GeForce 6160SE nForce 430 (if that even is the name of the graphics card)
which if it is I doubt that it could run sc2 with ease.

I think you'll find the correct syntac is 6150SE nForce 430 ;)

I know this as my rig has 1 until I upgrade :(
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Compaq Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
AMD Sempron Dual Core
Memory
3GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
Screen Resolution
1024x768
Hard Drives
150GB Sata
beat me too it mickey, i was about to ask that exact question! if you are running an on-board GPU it would explain the lag.
 

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Windows 7 Professional x64 Backtrack 4 R2
CPU
Intel Core i5-650
Motherboard
Gigabyte P55-UD3
Memory
4 GB Geil PC3 12800
Graphics Card(s)
HIS HD 4870 X2
Sound Card
Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion
Monitor(s) Displays
BenQ 22" G2220HD
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB
PSU
Antec High Current Gamer 620W Power Supply
Case
Thermaltake Armor+ MX
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Microsoft SideWinder X6
Mouse
Razer Abyssus
can you recommend a suitable upgrade jeff?

preferably one that doesn't include swapping out the psu?
 

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mickey megabyte 1234
OS
ultimate 64 sp1
CPU
i5 2500K [email protected]
Motherboard
MSI P67A-GD53
Memory
8 gigs GSkill Ripjaws 1600
Graphics Card(s)
amd hd6950
Sound Card
creative x-fi gamer
Monitor(s) Displays
samsung 24"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
ocz vertex 2e 60 gig, samsung f3 1tb, buffalo 2tb ext
PSU
antec 550
Case
antec three hundred
Cooling
i'm a cooling fan
Keyboard
saitek eclipse ii
Mouse
logitech g3
Internet Speed
about 4 Mbps
Other Info
i love win7
That all depends on the power of the PSU and price range ;)

450W PSU (minimum recommended) can power This
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Compaq Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
AMD Sempron Dual Core
Memory
3GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
Screen Resolution
1024x768
Hard Drives
150GB Sata

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Me
OS
Win 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
FX-8350 @ 4.6 GHz so far
Motherboard
Asus M5A97 EVO
Memory
ADATA XPG V1 Series Black 8GB DDR3 1600
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire R9 270x Dual-X
Sound Card
Xonar DGX w/ Corsair Vengence 1300
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer S232HL Abid
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
500 GB Seagate 7200.12
PSU
Antec Earthwatts 650W Green
Case
Antec Three Hundred
Cooling
Cooler Master 212 EVO
Keyboard
Logitech G510
Mouse
Logitech G500s
Internet Speed
35000/3000
And at only £78 on EBAY that's a proper steal :shock:
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Compaq Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
AMD Sempron Dual Core
Memory
3GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
Screen Resolution
1024x768
Hard Drives
150GB Sata
I don't know my power supply yet so I will have to find that out and probobly go find a good NVIDIA for around $150 like the 9800 GTX or maybe that HD 5770 or something along those lines that my computer can handle. Thanks for all the help.

edit: I just looked up specs for my computer which I just found out is a Compaq Presario CQ5210f and I it has a 250 watt power supply. I have no clue if that is a lot or not.
 

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250W is rather weak. If you want to upgrade your video card without replacing the power supply, your best options would be either an ATI Radeon HD 5570 or Nvidia GeForce GT 240. If however you want to invest a better power supply (usually recommend about 500 - 550W for midrange machines http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171038), then you can step up to something like a Radeon HD 4870 or 5770 or GeForce GTS 450 or GTX 560 Ti.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i3 530 2.93 Ghz Clarkdale
Motherboard
ASRock P55 PRO/USB3 LGA 1156
Memory
4 GB OCZ DDR3 1600 (PC12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti with 1 GB of RAM
Sound Card
Realtek HD ALC892
Monitor(s) Displays
20'' eMachines E202HDbmd Glare Panel Widescreen
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
Western Digital 1 TB Caviar Black Edition (7200 RPM) SATA
Hitachi Deskstar 500 GB (7200 RPM) SATA
Samsung SpinPoint 400 GB (7200 RPM) SATA
PSU
Rosewill Xtreme Series RX750-D-B ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V (750W)
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Cooler Master Centurion 534 RC-534-KKN2-GP Mid-Tower
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Standard Case Fans and Stock CPU Heatsink
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Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop Elite
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Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop Elite
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7.1 Mbps Verizon DSL
Hi

250w psu is not enough for either of them vid cards- I would say 450w is low ball- but might be ok- what you should look at is amps on the +12v rail. If you can find something 550watts and say 40amps on the +12v rail might be ok. Cheap no name psu's can ruin your whole system it is the only thing in a system that can do so.

As for vid cards it more depends on games you play- ATI can not do physx. As for that 9800gtx- I do not know if you can find them any more- but my 8800 gts ko g92 is more powerful and out performs the stock 9800gtx and my 8800 cost less and is a 9'' card where the 9800gtx is like 10.5'' My 8800 takes only 1 6x pin pcie connector- I think the 9800gtx takes 2 6x pin connectors.

you are willing to spend 150 for that 9800 gtx these cards cost 20-25 bucks more and is a far better cards and can do dx11 and physx and has a life time warranty- Think I would prefer a 256bit or more high card but this should be fine on a budget. I can not find min psu requirements..

You can shop around and maybe get prices a lil better than these posted..>

Amazon.com: EVGA 768-P3-1362-AR GeForce GTX460 768MB Superclocked DDR5 PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card - Lifetime Warranty: Electronics

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130564

** Here ya go an even better vid card and life time..>

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187111

I am sure this psu can handle most any single vid card.. As a fact this psu can most likely run 2 of the 460 in sli. it has 52amps on the +12v rail- is a single rail hard wire set up- said best versus multi rails and modular wire set ups. And has long wires you might get a full tower case someday- you will be glad for the long wires...>

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

If was my money and my budget I would go with this tx650 psu the 550 cost the same- corsair makes some of the best psu's on the planet and at a lower price point than many- these are a few years old now and cost less and has a 5 year warranty the vid card' above have life time and with these parts you are pretty much future proof if you might plan on other system upgrades in the next few years- you can carry over this psu and vid card to your new future system.. You can not have to much psu you can have to lil and or cheap crap..

You might need to open up your case and see if your psu is 1 of them tiny things- these normal atx case psu's might not work in your case.. My money would feel silly buying any psu less than 550w 40 amps on +12v rail- and they might be only 20 bucks or so less than the tx650 I just posted- Again you can not have to much psu you can have to lil and or creap crap.. If need be you might have to buy a normal mid or full tower atx case- you can find some cheap ones for 50 bucks or so or maybe a bud or something has an old one laying round- maybe it is some pc repair place near you and might have an old used 1 and sell ya for 20 bucks or something..

As a fact any video card over 9'' might not work in your case- 9'' cards you might even have to move around your hdd to make room for the vid card. Some of them cases are odd ball and not normal atx tower cases. Just some things to think about.

With nvidia vid card you have far less game problems over all and can play games etc that use physx- I am not a ati hater it is just the facts..

** I would guess your 250 watt psu is maybe only 18 maybe 24amps- it might not run any video card listed or talked about in this thread. You should be able to look at the psu it should have sticker on it and tell ya its wattage and how many amps on the +12v rail..

What about your mobo- I guess it can take a pcie card others are telling to buy that type- what about slots under the pcie vid card slot is it 1 free pci slot under it? Most all of these cards need 2 slots- the pcie vid card slot and 1 under it for the cooler they are 2 slot cards. If you have some other card in the pci slot under the pcie vid card slot- do you have another pci slot where you can drop what ever pci card to the lower slot ? All of these things you need to take into consideration- or you will buy stuff and not get it into your case and be pissed off..

Good luck- see ya..
 
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That psu darician posted might be ok I am not sure about cooler masters rep as far as psu's go- but they do make other good products- 550w and 2x 18amp +12v rails 36amp total- it would be pushing things for say that 465 vid card..

As far as buying anything and or budget or common sense things go- Say you are looking to buy a new pinto car the standard car cost 200 bucks but the better car with ac cost only 30 bucks more- unless stupid you spend the extra 30 bucks- Or save another week or month what ever until you can afford the better bargain.. And ride in comfort with your ac. Or hang your head out of the windows in summer time and hate your self for being so cheap etc..

With multi rail psu's- you have to think about and try and spread your load over the wires coming out of the psu- you are talking 2 rails 18amps each- no 1 rail may be enough to power everything in your case- and can be a head ake trying to spread it out- where you do not have them worries on a single rail psu.

I said before hard wired psu's are better than modular types- this is just part of 1 of many postings on the topic->

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/power-supplies-psu,8016.html

" Despite modular power supplies being a hot product, don't be quick to grab the up-take. The companies we spoke to told us that modular power supplies are less efficient than those that have their cables hard-wired. The reason being that the extra connection you make, adds resistance, and hence, increases heat and reduces efficiency."

Also 2 slot vid cards that vent the extra hot air out of the back of the case are better over all- the total temps inside your case will be lower versus a vid card that just circulates the hot air around inside your case.

If your budget is like 275 bucks- you can get the tx650 and the sparkle 465 vid card- good to go- provided your case can take your new hardware- Should include shipping and a few bucks left over. Again- you can shop around for better prices?

Just things to think about..
 
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I am probobly going to save up some money, buy a good 500w psu, a good graphics card, and then wait until the day that I can afford a new desktop. Also, thanks for all of the help you guys! :D
 

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if you don't have enough PSU juice, you can easily run ATI HD5670 on a 450 W psu, it'll run most of your new games. And it doesn't require a power connector.
 
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Self built
OS
Windows 10 Pro (x64)
CPU
AMD RYZEN 7 1700+Stock Wraith Spire
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ASUS PRIME B350M-A
Memory
Corsair 8GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4 Vengeance LPX 2400Mhz
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SAPPHIRE RX 470 4GB (Platinum Edition)
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BenQ VZ2250H
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1920x1080
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120GB Samsung 750 Evo (OS/Programs)+1TB ST Firecuda (Games/Creative Applications)+1TB WD Green (Storage)
PSU
Antec VP650PM
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Coolermaster K380 Mid-Tower
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Side:Antec F19 120mm+Rear:Tt ISGC Fan12
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Logitech K200
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Dragonwar Ele-G9 Thor
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Slow by 21st Century Standards :(
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Bitdefender Internet Security and MBAM
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Creative Inspire T3130
i just got a new pc and I have an ati radeon 5850 graphics card an i7 processor and 6gb of ram and it runs so smooth on extreme with no lag my old system has only an intel hd graphics card an a3 processor and 4gb of ram and it ran it on medium very well hope this helps i dont know much about pcs so I can go to in depth
 

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Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
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Intel Xeon E3 @ 3.30GHzIntel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1230 v3 @ 3.3
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MSI Z97 GAMING 5 (MS-7917)
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16.00GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 666MHz (9-9-9-24)
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ATI Radeon HD 7950
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(1) AMD High Definition Audio Device (2) USB Audio Device
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