Got and added clear o-rings to my Havit key board
Also swapped out the black o-rings for the clear ones on my Logitech 20 special characters and yes it is a lighting improvement
You never realize how many keys are on a key board until you have to put o-rings on them
My Computer
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Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64biti7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM'...Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
Well the Havit sounded like a old time typewriter and was noisy as hell-o
Logitech has the black o-rings and they block the light from showing the special characters
To make matters worse the numbers are above the special characters instead of under like all other key boards I've ever used
If logitech wasn't assbackwards in key design it wouldn't of been an issue most of the light would be where the special characters
Still not perfect but is an improvement
Perfect would be to replace the keys with what I consider normal layout
My Computer
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Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64biti7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM'...Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Releas...Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ChillBlast - Custom to my design
OS
Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
CPU
Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
Motherboard
Asus Prime X570-Pro
Memory
64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
Graphics Card(s)
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
Sound Card
On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
Monitor(s) Displays
32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
Screen Resolution
2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
Hard Drives
1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
PSU
NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
Case
Workstation Case [Matt Black]
Cooling
NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
Mouse
Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
Internet Speed
920 MB Down 50 MB Up
Antivirus
BitDefender Total Security Pro
Browser
Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
Other Info
Also run ...
Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
Samsung 10.2" tablet
Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
Wacom Expresskeys Remote
Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
Shuttle Pro v2 Control
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Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RPIntel I7 10750H 5.0GHz32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHznVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
Computer type
Laptop
System Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 17 10750H
OS
Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
CPU
Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
Motherboard
Dell XPS
Memory
32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
Sound Card
Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
Monitor(s) Displays
17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
Screen Resolution
3840 x 2400
Hard Drives
2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
PSU
Stock
Case
Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
Cooling
Stock - Active Fan Control
Keyboard
Backlit + Various Logitech
Mouse
Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
Internet Speed
72 MB Down 18MB Up
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Also run ...
Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
10.2" tablet
Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
Wacom Expresskeys Remote
Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
10TB NAS
Only problem with that is using a different key board everything is fine
I don't know why Logitech put the numbers on top of the characters it makes no sense to me at all
Glad I only paid 80.us for it too but the clear o-rings do make a difference thankfully
My Computer
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Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64biti7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM'...Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
All my Logitech keyboards are of the conventional layout, (UK arrangement obviously), I can only suppose that the reversed layout they chose was to compensate for bad original design, to illuminate the numbers better it was cheaper to change the number position than re-design the keyboard
Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Releas...Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ChillBlast - Custom to my design
OS
Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
CPU
Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
Motherboard
Asus Prime X570-Pro
Memory
64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
Graphics Card(s)
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
Sound Card
On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
Monitor(s) Displays
32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
Screen Resolution
2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
Hard Drives
1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
PSU
NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
Case
Workstation Case [Matt Black]
Cooling
NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
Mouse
Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
Internet Speed
920 MB Down 50 MB Up
Antivirus
BitDefender Total Security Pro
Browser
Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
Other Info
Also run ...
Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
Samsung 10.2" tablet
Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
Wacom Expresskeys Remote
Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
Shuttle Pro v2 Control
At a glance
Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RPIntel I7 10750H 5.0GHz32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHznVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
Computer type
Laptop
System Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 17 10750H
OS
Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
CPU
Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
Motherboard
Dell XPS
Memory
32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
Sound Card
Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
Monitor(s) Displays
17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
Screen Resolution
3840 x 2400
Hard Drives
2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
PSU
Stock
Case
Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
Cooling
Stock - Active Fan Control
Keyboard
Backlit + Various Logitech
Mouse
Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
Internet Speed
72 MB Down 18MB Up
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Also run ...
Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
10.2" tablet
Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
Wacom Expresskeys Remote
Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
10TB NAS
Yep
Really odd when the key board has has the numbers keypad
If the key board did not have the keypad it might make a little more sense :/
My Computer
At a glance
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64biti7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM'...Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64biti7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM'...Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
Well I seen gaming keyboard from other manufactures from $100.00 to up over $300.00. For a Das gaming keyboard for around $150.00 seems like a good price to me.
Remember it is a Das.
Their gaming mouse is going to be around $80.00.
I have two Das Professional 4 keyboards. No gaming and no lights and they cost me $180.00 each. So a Das Gaming Keyboard has got to worth $150.00 in my opinion.
My Computer
At a glance
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pr...Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
I've paid a lot more than $150 for keyboards in the past, although they were desk mounted hi-grade stainless steel and were also totally flameproof industrial units are a little more hard-wearing than even gaming units
Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Releas...Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ChillBlast - Custom to my design
OS
Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
CPU
Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
Motherboard
Asus Prime X570-Pro
Memory
64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
Graphics Card(s)
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
Sound Card
On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
Monitor(s) Displays
32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
Screen Resolution
2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
Hard Drives
1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
PSU
NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
Case
Workstation Case [Matt Black]
Cooling
NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
Mouse
Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
Internet Speed
920 MB Down 50 MB Up
Antivirus
BitDefender Total Security Pro
Browser
Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
Other Info
Also run ...
Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
Samsung 10.2" tablet
Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
Wacom Expresskeys Remote
Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
Shuttle Pro v2 Control
At a glance
Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RPIntel I7 10750H 5.0GHz32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHznVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
Computer type
Laptop
System Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 17 10750H
OS
Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
CPU
Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
Motherboard
Dell XPS
Memory
32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
Sound Card
Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
Monitor(s) Displays
17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
Screen Resolution
3840 x 2400
Hard Drives
2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
PSU
Stock
Case
Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
Cooling
Stock - Active Fan Control
Keyboard
Backlit + Various Logitech
Mouse
Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
Internet Speed
72 MB Down 18MB Up
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Also run ...
Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
10.2" tablet
Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
Wacom Expresskeys Remote
Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
10TB NAS
Some gaming mouses are over a $100.00 and some are $20.00 mouses with the word gaming on them.
Das does not pay me anything. I speak highly of their products because I use them and so far they are the best I found.
I'm also very happy with my two Logitech M705 mice. The first Logitech anything that I have liked. Nothing fancy and they still cost around $40.00 each.
When I do get another mouse and keyboard I will give Das Gaming a try and I'm not a gamer.
When one thinks of how much you use a mouse and keyboard while computing a proper mouse and keyboard is important.
My Das keyboards stopped the pain in my hands, wrists and arms while typing that I got from all other keyboards I tried.
A little off subject but don't forget about the chair you plunk your bass in for several hours a day behind the keyboard. The proper chair at the proper height does wonders for your attitude.
Old bones and old injuries demand a proper chair.
My Computer
At a glance
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pr...Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.