Solved Updater never stops checking, fresh install, 2 computers.

[fusk]

I have 2 machines i've just reinstalled win7 on because win update wouldn't work on any of them after sp1 has been installed. I've now tried installing a copy incl. sp1. But same problem.
I've tried this.
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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058
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[/FONT][FONT=&quot]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947821/dahttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/947821/da
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929135/dahttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/929135/da

These "solutions" are those ms support emailed me, as my hours of goggling didn't yield any result.
Nothing helped on either machine. One is 32bit [/FONT]win7 starter and the other 64bit win7 home prem. On my desktop i run win10 which updates fine.

 

[Layback Bear]

Lets try fixing one computer at a time. Other wise it will be total confusion.
You pick which one and stay with it until it's fixed.
Complete this tutorial. The information will be need by our expert Noel.

http://www.sevenforums.com/windows-...4840-windows-update-posting-instructions.html

Have you activated Windows 7?

 

[fusk]

Yes, they're both legit. Step 1 is running, if i remember correctly it'll never finish. So far it's been going for ~10 min. But you never know, maybe this 6'th attempt is the one that works.

 

[fusk]

Okay. I ran through the instructions. Did both machines because why not. Pick which ever you think is the most interesting one and we can take them one by one.

 

[fusk]

Bump

 

[wben353]

Hi fusk & welcome to the forum.
How long did you let windows update run? Updates are ridiculously slow lately (maybe all server action with win10) many hours.

 

[fusk]

@wben353 I've let them run for at least an hour. However, note that all previous updates made the same day went fine. Updating a fresh pre sp1 install to latest.
But yesterday i noticed the problem happens when it needs to install an update to windows update. It fails to install that update and after that windows update breaks.
This happens every time.

I've even spoken with ms support which requested the msinfo32 & windowsupdate.log and from those came with a possible solution that did not work.
Which included these possible solutions.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/971058

net stop WuAuServClick Start, Run, type: %windir% and press Enter.
In the opened folder, rename the folder SoftwareDistribution to SoftwareDistribution.old.
Click Start, Run, type: cmd and press Enter. Please run the following command in the opened window.
net start WuAuServ


https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/910336

Cmd /c ren %WinDir%\System32\Spupdsvc.exe Spupdsvc.old

 

[wben353]

Some users report updates taking 24-48 hours
Take a look at this article on win7forum Windows Update - Reset

 

[fusk]

So you're saying it's specific updates this occurs for ?
If not then why would 10+ updates be scanned for and download just fine not more than 20 min earlier ?

Will check that link out.

 

[wben353]

I'm running win7x64HP. Haven't been on win10 since insider build. Many with slow update issue on forum.

 

[fusk]

I'm also talking about win7, and not win10.

 

[Layback Bear]

fusk what we are saying is updates for Windows 7 can take a very long time.
Many many hours.
If your system and ISP are working properly it can and most likely take a long time.
Once your systems requests updates and a Microsoft server picks up the request it will depend on how busy that Microsoft server is.
I'm thinking those Microsoft servers are very busy giving away W-10.

If everything on your end is working properly I know of no cure for this problem except waiting for the download to complete.

 

[fusk]

I just wanted to clear up any misunderstanding. When i questioned it saying 10+ and he was talking about running win10 with slow updates. Just making sure he didn't think i was talking about win10.

I've reinstalled the system ~6 times over a few days to try and resolve the problem, not once have i had issues with updates coming in slow. Which means it has to be that specific update, and it fails because it's slow?
But also note that i mentioned the update to win update failed and the issue starts afterwards. So i'm thinking it's unrelated to the speed of the update servers.

That's why i'm sceptic of the overloaded server being the cause.

Or did i misunderstand something ?

 

[UsernameIssues]

...I've reinstalled the system ~6 times over a few days to try and resolve the problem, not once have i had issues with updates coming in slow.
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That's why i'm sceptic of the overloaded server being the cause.

Or did i misunderstand something ?

Did you happen to take note of which WU servers you were connecting to? There are a lot of them.

I have taken a W7 virtual machine that only had SP1 and fully patched it dozens of times this year. Sometimes the list of patches is built within 20 minutes - sometimes 20 hours.

I've tried several variations - like skipping the Windows Update Agent patch that it tells me it needs before getting the list of patches. Instead, I installed the latest Windows Update Client*... then tried to get the list of needed patches. I've also watched the network traffic with Wireshark. More than once - I have watched that network traffic for the full 20+ minutes until the list came in. Very little traffic flowed and the Wireshark captures did not help me know why it takes hours some times.

*MS changed the name from agent to client.

So - no matter what the cause is - the answer is the same: be patient.

If you cannot be patient, then keep restarting the computer and manually asking for the list of updates until you happen to get a WU server that likes you.

 

[fusk]

I see. No i do not know of the wu server. So that might explain things. But so far we're only assuming that is the problem. But i'll try patience.

 

[Brds7t7]

I see. No i do not know of the wu server. So that might explain things. But so far we're only assuming that is the problem. But i'll try patience.

I agree with the rest of the replies Fusk. Windows 7 updates have been painfully slow lately. I regularly set up new VM's and my last one took around 8 hours before it even picked up the first load of updates.

There's nothing you can do other than wait.

After you've installed all the updates and activated Windows, take a system image and store it away on a separate disk. Then in future you can use that when you need a new install. It'll save you having to download hundreds of updates again.

 

[wben353]

I see. No i do not know of the wu server. So that might explain things. But so far we're only assuming that is the problem. But i'll try patience.

Patience is a virtue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Layback Bear]

With Windows Updates patience is not only a virtue it is necessary.

 

[fusk]

I've never experienced that before. That's why i had difficulties accepting that as the answer.

 

[fusk]

The patience thingie might have been the solution.