USB Hubs not working correctly

jcaswell

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I have a couple of powered USB Hubs that work inconsistently. For simple stuff, such as transferring a file from one external drive to another, they generally seem to be OK, but when trying to do multiple transfers, they fail. They also seem to be inconsistant when seeking to link phones and so on.

When I link the devices directly to the motherboard using the USB connections on the computer, I do not have a problem.

Is there some issue with the USB drivers that allow the system to differentiate between the different devices that are linked to a single hub?
 

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First of all, what brand and model of USB hub is it?
 

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msi GeForce N560GTX-M2D1GD5 1GB
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Realtek HD Audio
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CHIMEI CMV 221D 22"
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SHAW Viper-1500w Gaming PSU
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The hubs are:

Belkin Hi-Speed USB 2.0 7 Port Hub

and

Cerulian 7 Port USB 2.0 Traigular Desktop Hub

Thanks for your help
 

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Assembled system based around an ASUS Motherboard
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Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
CPU
AMD 760G
Motherboard
ASUS M5A78L
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
As installed on motherboard
Sound Card
As installed on motherboard
Monitor(s) Displays
HP x1907v
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1440 x 900
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Samsung HD 154UI ATA Device (1.5TB)
Seagate FA goFlex Desk USB Device
PSU
As fitted in case
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As supplied by manufacturer
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Logitech
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Logitech
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Try downloading this Driver Manager and with it, try and identify and new drivers. If there is such a driver and it prompts you to install, install it.

How are the two hubs connected to the PC when it fails? Are they connected via another hub, extension cable etc?
 

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Custom Build
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64/Windows 8 Consumer Preview x64/Ubuntu 11.04
CPU
Intel Pentium Dual Core E6700 3.2GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P5G41T-M LX
Memory
Strontium 8192MB DDR3 1333Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
msi GeForce N560GTX-M2D1GD5 1GB
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
CHIMEI CMV 221D 22"
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda LP Green 3.5'' 2TB Internal HDD 5900RPM + WD Elements Desktop 1TB External HDD 7200RPM
PSU
SHAW Viper-1500w Gaming PSU
Case
Black eMaxx ATX Mini Tower Case
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 1000
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Microsoft Wireless Optical Mouse 2000
Internet Speed
100GB @ 4.76Mbps
JaidynM - thank you for your response.

Both hubs are connected to USB ports on the motherboard, by standard USB cables, and are powered. I do not have them 'daisy-chained'

I have downloaded Driver Manager, and it has identified 4 out of date drivers. When I go to update them using its interface, it prompts me to pay for the application. While I am, in general, happy to pay for software that is of benefit to me, it will only give me the option to buy a 10 PC Family Pack for nearly £50. I have tried to find a web site that may give me other options, but cannot. Have you got any suggestions as I only need a single PC license, or 2 at the most?
 

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Assembled system based around an ASUS Motherboard
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
CPU
AMD 760G
Motherboard
ASUS M5A78L
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
As installed on motherboard
Sound Card
As installed on motherboard
Monitor(s) Displays
HP x1907v
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900
Hard Drives
Samsung HD 154UI ATA Device (1.5TB)
Seagate FA goFlex Desk USB Device
PSU
As fitted in case
Cooling
As supplied by manufacturer
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
Logitech
Internet Speed
8MBS
Do not buy the software. Driver Manager should provide a link to the download site which can be used free of charge. The paid version is utterly pointless unless you're using it for long-term use.
 

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Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64/Windows 8 Consumer Preview x64/Ubuntu 11.04
CPU
Intel Pentium Dual Core E6700 3.2GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P5G41T-M LX
Memory
Strontium 8192MB DDR3 1333Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
msi GeForce N560GTX-M2D1GD5 1GB
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
CHIMEI CMV 221D 22"
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda LP Green 3.5'' 2TB Internal HDD 5900RPM + WD Elements Desktop 1TB External HDD 7200RPM
PSU
SHAW Viper-1500w Gaming PSU
Case
Black eMaxx ATX Mini Tower Case
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 1000
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Optical Mouse 2000
Internet Speed
100GB @ 4.76Mbps
Just so you know, 7 port USB hubs are actually two 4 port hubs daisy chained together. Thats why the they have the odd number of 7 ports, one port is used to plug the second hub into the first. So depending on what port you use you may be going though 2 hubs before you even get to the USB port on your motherboard. Personally I don't use hubs unless I absolutely have to and then only 4 port powered brand name hubs.
 

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alphanemeric - thank you - a very interesting observation. I have quite a few USB devices that I need to conect (printer, two external drives, microphone, ipad docking station, spare micro and mini USB connections for phone and so on) so I do need a hub. However - I will take one apart and investigate, but will only buy four port ones in the future.

JaidynM - I have tried to use Driver Manager any which way, but I cannot get to the download sites from the application - it continuously interrupts and asks for registration (and thus money). I can get driver details from the site, and then search in Google and get to the relevant site, but I alway find them so confusing - listing so many drivers, I find it impossible to find the correct one. Any suggestions on that?
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Assembled system based around an ASUS Motherboard
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
CPU
AMD 760G
Motherboard
ASUS M5A78L
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
As installed on motherboard
Sound Card
As installed on motherboard
Monitor(s) Displays
HP x1907v
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900
Hard Drives
Samsung HD 154UI ATA Device (1.5TB)
Seagate FA goFlex Desk USB Device
PSU
As fitted in case
Cooling
As supplied by manufacturer
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
Logitech
Internet Speed
8MBS
Can you post the drivers that it wants you to update? I'll see if I can find the relevant downloads.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64/Windows 8 Consumer Preview x64/Ubuntu 11.04
CPU
Intel Pentium Dual Core E6700 3.2GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P5G41T-M LX
Memory
Strontium 8192MB DDR3 1333Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
msi GeForce N560GTX-M2D1GD5 1GB
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
CHIMEI CMV 221D 22"
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda LP Green 3.5'' 2TB Internal HDD 5900RPM + WD Elements Desktop 1TB External HDD 7200RPM
PSU
SHAW Viper-1500w Gaming PSU
Case
Black eMaxx ATX Mini Tower Case
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 1000
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Optical Mouse 2000
Internet Speed
100GB @ 4.76Mbps
Thank you - the drivers it has identified are:

AMD 760G by ATI Technologies - have one dated 10/02/2010, need one dated 9/11/2011

Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller - have one dated 10/06/2011, need one dated 23/11/2011

ATI I/O Communications Processor SMBus Controller - have one dated 21/06/2006, need one dated 26/02/2007

The other issues seem to be to do with USB products not connected, rather than drive problems
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Assembled system based around an ASUS Motherboard
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
CPU
AMD 760G
Motherboard
ASUS M5A78L
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
As installed on motherboard
Sound Card
As installed on motherboard
Monitor(s) Displays
HP x1907v
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900
Hard Drives
Samsung HD 154UI ATA Device (1.5TB)
Seagate FA goFlex Desk USB Device
PSU
As fitted in case
Cooling
As supplied by manufacturer
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
Logitech
Internet Speed
8MBS

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64/Windows 8 Consumer Preview x64/Ubuntu 11.04
CPU
Intel Pentium Dual Core E6700 3.2GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P5G41T-M LX
Memory
Strontium 8192MB DDR3 1333Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
msi GeForce N560GTX-M2D1GD5 1GB
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
CHIMEI CMV 221D 22"
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda LP Green 3.5'' 2TB Internal HDD 5900RPM + WD Elements Desktop 1TB External HDD 7200RPM
PSU
SHAW Viper-1500w Gaming PSU
Case
Black eMaxx ATX Mini Tower Case
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 1000
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Optical Mouse 2000
Internet Speed
100GB @ 4.76Mbps
Done that, thanks
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Assembled system based around an ASUS Motherboard
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
CPU
AMD 760G
Motherboard
ASUS M5A78L
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
As installed on motherboard
Sound Card
As installed on motherboard
Monitor(s) Displays
HP x1907v
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900
Hard Drives
Samsung HD 154UI ATA Device (1.5TB)
Seagate FA goFlex Desk USB Device
PSU
As fitted in case
Cooling
As supplied by manufacturer
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
Logitech
Internet Speed
8MBS
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