Using old drive in new computer

[Bob Myers]

I guess my original idea is becoming more needed, sticking this hard drive into a computer that is more "modern". I have such a machine, it had 7 on it that apparently was bootlegged, I got the machine in a trade and the harddrive crapped out within a week of plugging it in. As best I remember it is either an ACER or ASUS

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Friend has one of these cards, is it a worthwhile upgrade fro me, at $25?
XFX ATI Radeon HD 1GB DDR2 SDRAM
HD-465X-ZDFC

It's a "better" card than you have now. Scoring 263 on the Passmark benchmark.

But it's anyone's guess as to whether it will improve your performance noticeably on your CAD/CAM programs.
Those programs may be highly dependent on CPU power and not so dependent on graphics.

Every dime you spend on what you have is money you could spend on a legit upgrade. I hate to see you buy more low end stuff on nothing but speculation that it will help enough to be worthwhile.

We still have no idea how much CPU or graphics horsepower is required for your chosen programs. Maybe you can make a noticeable difference for say $75 or $100 and maybe not.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

I guess my original idea is becoming more needed, sticking this hard drive into a computer that is more "modern". I have such a machine, it had 7 on it that apparently was bootlegged, I got the machine in a trade and the harddrive crapped out within a week of plugging it in. As best I remember it is either an ACER or ASUS

What PC is represented by this Windows Experience Index picture?

The more modern Acer/Asus?

Or the old one that you are upgrading with the new processor you just bought?

That Windows test is nearly useless at any rate.

 

[Bob Myers]

that is screen shot from one I am ready to throw out the window! I was ask to provide a W.E.I., I did a search and this is what I found, had it do a current update. Is this not what I was ask to show?

 

[ignatzatsonic]

that is screen shot from one I am ready to throw out the window! I was ask to provide a W.E.I., I did a search and this is what I found, had it do a current update. Is this not what I was ask to show?

It is what you were asked to show.

But it doesn't tell us much we didn't already know.

You have an antique. Maybe you can upgrade the antique cheaply and make a noticeable difference. Maybe not.

The WEI doesn't answer the question. It's still speculation because we DON'T know how much power you need to run those specific programs reasonably well.

You are still limited to 4 GB of RAM. You are still limited to minor upgrades in the processor and video card.

 

[AddRAM]

Regardless of what ignatz says, the WEI is not useless and tells me alot.

Your video score is 1.0 which is terrible, a 3 would be better, a 5 would be much better, and a 7.9, well... the best.

Anything you can do to improve that number is gonna make the pc better.

The cpu score is mediocre, when you add the cpu you said you bought, that score should go up too.

If you need a better Power supply, then get a better power supply, you can always keep it to use in the future.

Let`s help the OP to upgrade what he has on what he can afford until he buys a new pc.

Bob, maybe you could email ignatz a list of the software you need to run and he can research what`s needed to run it effectively

 

[whs]

I think by now you realize that this system is no good for your CAD/CAM application - and little tweaks here and there are not going to suffice. If I were you I would get a decent modern box or stop with the CAD/CAM. Desktops are not cheap these days (as compared to laptops) but the price of Caviar went up too.

 

[Bob Myers]

here are the minimum specs for the program i am running, looks to me to be well within the machine capabilities;
Minimum Specifications
32 or 64-bit Intel Pentium 4 processor (2 GHz or faster), Intel Xeon, Intel Core, AMD Athlon 64, AMD Opteron, AMD Phemnom or later, in single, dual or quad core versions
2 GB for Windows Vista/Windows 7 and 4GB for 64-bit operating systems
10 GB free disk space for the OneCNC installation
Graphics card
CDROM or Internet connection for installing the software and for updating the software
Graphics Card
OpenGL compliant - Minimum 128 MB memory for wire frame or express systems - Minimum 256 MB memory for solid model systems
We recommend NVIDIA graphics cards or equivalent and that the latest driver for the card is installed.
17" Colour monitor (1280 x 1024 screen resolution)
Mouse including wheel (Intellimouse)
SpaceMouse/SpaceBall (optional)
Internet Explorer 6 or above
Internet connection for license activation/updates
USB port for the OneCNC software security key (dongle)

 

[Bob Myers]

If I were to just toss the machine and keep the hard drive with all my programs and info, can I just purchase another machine without a drive, and install this? If feasible, what, currently is on the market that would be at least 3 times the minimum requirements for my program.
WHM; I just paid over $3k for the program, not using it is not an option

 

[whs]

If I were to just toss the machine and keep the hard drive with all my programs and info, can I just purchase another machine without a drive, and install this? If feasible, what, currently is on the market that would be at least 3 times the minimum requirements for my program.
WHM; I just paid over $3k for the program, not using it is not an option

This is a difficult proposition but with a lot of work it could be done. It would be easier to reinstall the program on the new system. Find the product key with Belarc Advisor and get the installation .exe of the program.

 

[Bob Myers]

I ran that this afternoon before I left, I already knew the key to the 7 that is on that machine.
I guess I'm just beating my head and avoiding the inevitable, drives with windows 7 just cannot be swapped like the older XP and such, or am I missing an explanation that isn't being said?

 

[Layback Bear]

Boy now I'm confused.
You put a $3000.00 CAD program on a $50.00 computer.

Those specs you posted don't work in the real world.

The things I have learned about CAD programs to get them to work like a $3000.00 program should work you will need at lease a Quad Core cpu. High end Video card or two. All the ram you can stick on the motherboard.
No less that 16 gigs.

 

[AddRAM]

Gregrocker can help you to put the hard drive on a new machine.

 

[whs]

It's probably an IDE disk, the kind the Romans used. :roflmao:

 

[Layback Bear]

Here is just one website that will give a good idea what the minimum requirement are. It also depends on what the CAD program is being used and what kind of work it's going to be used for. A $3000.00 CAD program will probable chew up all the laptop you can install it on.
What ever the CAD Program is being used I would suggest doing a lot of research.
What computer it can run on will probable be a lot different from a computer it will run well on.

http://www.nwtc.edu/academics/degrees/manufacturing/Documents/Software%20Install%20Instructions/Choosing%20a%20Laptop%20or%20PC%20for%20Autocad%20and%20Revit.pdf

 

[Bob Myers]

Laybackbear, whether those specs suit you or not it is what ONECNC provided when i ask for them. I could not imagine they are less savvy than you concerning their program

 

[Bob Myers]

thank you for the link for recommended desktop for your students, I will use that as a guide for obtaining a more modern machine.
I have a laptop that does more than adequately meet the req but I would rather muddle along as best I can until cash is in hand in a few weeks to buy what you recommend, I know if I carry the laptop into the shop it'll get killed by falling or having something fall on it

 

[whs]

Laybackbear, whether those specs suit you or not it is what ONECNC provided when i ask for them. I could not imagine they are less savvy than you concerning their program

Question then - why does your program not run as expected. If the requirements are met, it should run like on rails.

 

[Bob Myers]

I would love to know that too. As directed earlier I apparently have a lame video card with no where near the needed power, or power supply going soft when ask to work hard? I had actually rigged a harness to plug into the power supply to monitor the output voltage when it is taxed hard but thought it was a waste of time, at the time. Now I wonder again about that

 

[Layback Bear]

What I said was.

What computer it can run on will probable be a lot different from a computer it will run well on.