Solved Water cooling

msalton1

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I'm about to build a machine and am shopping cases. The one I'm leaning toward has water cooling options (actually, they make two versions of the case, the one in the link is the 'airflow' edition).



  • I've never employed water cooling and am unsure of the set up/advantages. My questions are:
  • How high are the risks of leakage?
  • Does the use of a radiator eliminate the need for case fans?
  • Are water cooled systems significantly cooler?


Honestly, if water cooling eliminates the need for fans, the absence of dust and noise are enough to convince me.


ps - I'm not adverse to suggestions for a different case. I'm looking for roomy, easy access to HDDs for adding/removing on demand, quality build, good cooling prospects.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom
OS
windows 7 Pro 64 Bit
CPU
i5 4670K
Motherboard
Asus Max Hero 1150 socket
Memory
16GB DDR3@933mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon R9 390 8192mb
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2415 x3
Screen Resolution
1920 (5760) x 1200 x3
Hard Drives
System: Kingston 128GB SSD

Installing to Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
WD Black 2 TB & 1 TB
PSU
Corsair CX750M
Cooling
Hyper 312
Internet Speed
50mbps
Water coolers do use fans on the radiator to rid the heat from the water in the radiator much like a car. See here


I don't think water coolers are worth it because I have read many times over your temps will drop only a few degrees versus an air cooled CPU. There is the risk of a water leakage and I've heard it happen, though I don't think it's something that happens all that often.


I don't use a water cooler for the reasons I wrote and I don't want water near my computer. Even though it may not be likely you'll have a leak it could happen and I saved for a year to build my system. I wouldn't want a faulty water cooler destroying my investment.

As to dust, a water cooler won't do that since the fans are on the outside of the radiator. But you'll still have case fans which can create dust. It's gonna happen regardless. That's why once a year you use computer air spray and blow out the case. You want to use the computer spray as it's anti-static.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Your opinion mirrors my line of thought. I can live with fans. The case I'm looking at seems to have a decent filter system. As to compressed air, I use this DataVac.


Thanks for your input (on many occasions).
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom
OS
windows 7 Pro 64 Bit
CPU
i5 4670K
Motherboard
Asus Max Hero 1150 socket
Memory
16GB DDR3@933mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon R9 390 8192mb
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2415 x3
Screen Resolution
1920 (5760) x 1200 x3
Hard Drives
System: Kingston 128GB SSD

Installing to Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
WD Black 2 TB & 1 TB
PSU
Corsair CX750M
Cooling
Hyper 312
Internet Speed
50mbps
  • How high are the risks of leakage?
  • Does the use of a radiator eliminate the need for case fans?
  • Are water cooled systems significantly cooler?
There is a minimal chance of leakage - especially with high quality sealed systems
You will still need case fans to cool the other components
Yes, they are significantly cooler due to water transferring heat far more efficiently than air.

Have a look at the Corsair H60 as an entry system - I've had the same one for about 8 years and its worked flawlessly.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Golden Mk. I.4
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64 ; Xubuntu x64
CPU
Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz O/C'ed to 4.0GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13
Memory
16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24)
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB
Sound Card
Realtek Integrated
Monitor(s) Displays
Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS
Screen Resolution
1920*1080 and 1920*1080
Hard Drives
1*Samsung 840 EVO 120GB SSD;
1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
1*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB;
2*Western Digital 1TB External USB 3.0
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0
PSU
Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W
Case
Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z
Cooling
Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans
Keyboard
Logitech G110
Mouse
Logitech MX518
I builded a custom watercooling loop back in mid 2014 with two radiators 120/240 in push-pull...never had a leak or troubles with tank or pump or even fans. It stills running smooth and did only once full drain, next drain is planned late this year. I had for my money!
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
CPU
Ivy Bridge Core i5 3570K (Delidded)
Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-V LE PLUS
Memory
G.Skill "Ares" DDR3 PC3-12800 - 1600MHz (16Gb)
Graphics Card(s)
Asus Dual-RX480-O4G
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster Z w/5.1 sound system
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus IPS 23"
Screen Resolution
16/9
Hard Drives
Internal:
500Go Sata 6Gb/s (x2)
500Go Sata 3Gb/s (x2)
SSD 60Go Sata 6Gb/s
PSU
In Win C 900W Series 80+ Platinum
Case
Thermaltake Chaser A71
Cooling
Custom Water Cooling Loop
Keyboard
Cooler Master QuickFire XTi
Mouse
Razer Imperator 2012 (4G)
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
IE 11.0.xxx Rtm
Other Info
"Raid0" with Intel Smart Response Technology (HDD/SSD)
Thanks for your inputs. I went with the H60. The biggest selling point for me was that the air cooled options are absolute monsters, whereas the radiator can be tucked flat at top or back. The extra cooling doesn't hurt either.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom
OS
windows 7 Pro 64 Bit
CPU
i5 4670K
Motherboard
Asus Max Hero 1150 socket
Memory
16GB DDR3@933mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon R9 390 8192mb
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2415 x3
Screen Resolution
1920 (5760) x 1200 x3
Hard Drives
System: Kingston 128GB SSD

Installing to Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
WD Black 2 TB & 1 TB
PSU
Corsair CX750M
Cooling
Hyper 312
Internet Speed
50mbps
:thumbsup:
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Golden Mk. I.4
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64 ; Xubuntu x64
CPU
Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz O/C'ed to 4.0GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13
Memory
16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24)
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB
Sound Card
Realtek Integrated
Monitor(s) Displays
Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS
Screen Resolution
1920*1080 and 1920*1080
Hard Drives
1*Samsung 840 EVO 120GB SSD;
1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
1*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB;
2*Western Digital 1TB External USB 3.0
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0
PSU
Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W
Case
Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z
Cooling
Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans
Keyboard
Logitech G110
Mouse
Logitech MX518
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