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[LeftC]

Delete the FAT16 partition as well....it's useless (used by RECOVERY partition... which is gone). Now you have only 1 partition called OS.

The FAT16 partition is deleted now. See below.

We probably will not get this completed tonight. Should I leave the computer on 24/7 now until it is completed.

I have to set my BIOS so that it boots from a DVD first.

Are you using SSD and Harddisk at the same time later? It isn't possible to attach both to laptop at the same time as far as I know(?)

Yes. I plan to use both the Harddisk, SSD and DVD drive. The SSD will be where the DVD drive is. The DVD drive will be connected to the eSATA port for part time use.

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[Kaktussoft]

Did you run startup repair 3 times already? After that boot normally and post bcdedit output. After that I gonna sleep.

If all went succesfull you have only 1 partition on disk and F8 recovery to "safe mode" and "repair your computer" work. Check that! http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/666-advanced-boot-options.html

 

[LeftC]

Did you run startup repair 3 times already? After that boot normally and post bcdedit output. After that I gonna sleep.

If all went succesfull you have only 1 partition on disk and F8 recovery to "safe mode" and "repair your computer" work. Check that! http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/666-advanced-boot-options.html

I'll run them later. Dinner is being served now. I'll have them done for you to take a look at.

I sure hope that things went as you planned.

 

[Kaktussoft]

Did you run startup repair 3 times already? After that boot normally and post bcdedit output. After that I gonna sleep.

If all went succesfull you have only 1 partition on disk and F8 recovery to "safe mode" and "repair your computer" work. Check that! http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/666-advanced-boot-options.html

I'll run them later. Dinner is being served now. I'll have them done for you to take a look at.

I sure hope that things went as you planned.

Post results later please. If all went fine.... buy the stuff and attach to to system. Tell me when done. Then we continue to move OS to SSD.

 

[LeftC]

Did you run startup repair 3 times already? After that boot normally and post bcdedit output. After that I gonna sleep.

Thanks for your help. I ran the startup repair 3 times. They did so without any errors, glitches or anything. Below is the AOMEI snip and the bcdeddit/enum all>bcd.txt snip.

If all went succesfull you have only 1 partition on disk and F8 recovery to "safe mode" and "repair your computer" work. Check that! http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/666-advanced-boot-options.html

Is this correct what the AOMEI snip shows?

 

[LeftC]

Did you run startup repair 3 times already? After that boot normally and post bcdedit output. After that I gonna sleep.

If all went succesfull you have only 1 partition on disk and F8 recovery to "safe mode" and "repair your computer" work. Check that! http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/666-advanced-boot-options.html

I'll run them later. Dinner is being served now. I'll have them done for you to take a look at.

I sure hope that things went as you planned.

Post results later please. If all went fine.... buy the stuff and attach to to system. Tell me when done. Then we continue to move OS to SSD.

The equipment is here. Tiny, tiny screws, going to be hard on these old, shaky hands.

 

[Kaktussoft]

Did you run startup repair 3 times already? After that boot normally and post bcdedit output. After that I gonna sleep.

Thanks for your help. I ran the startup repair 3 times. They did so without any errors, glitches or anything. Below is the AOMEI snip and the bcdeddit/enum all>bcd.txt snip.

If all went succesfull you have only 1 partition on disk and F8 recovery to "safe mode" and "repair your computer" work. Check that! http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/666-advanced-boot-options.html

Is this correct what the AOMEI snip shows?

AOMEI screenshot is fine. One large partition with unallocated space in front. Who cares about unallocated space?! If OS has been transfered and works without errors... you can delete partition OS on HDD. And then create any partition you want.

I don't see bcdedit output.

bcdedit/enum all>bcd.txt
notepad  bcd.txt

Now copy/paste the text in your post. close notepad and delete the file. I need readable text, so I can copy/paste and make eventually new commands to instruct you

 

[LeftC]

Did you run startup repair 3 times already? After that boot normally and post bcdedit output. After that I gonna sleep.

Thanks for your help. I ran the startup repair 3 times. They did so without any errors, glitches or anything. Below is the AOMEI snip and the bcdeddit/enum all>bcd.txt snip.

If all went succesfull you have only 1 partition on disk and F8 recovery to "safe mode" and "repair your computer" work. Check that! http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/666-advanced-boot-options.html

Is this correct what the AOMEI snip shows?

AOMEI screenshot is fine. One large partition with unallocated space in front. Who cares about unallocated space?! If OS has been transfered and works without errors... you can delete partition OS on HDD. And then create any partition you want.

Sounds great! So good, so far.

I don't see bcdedit output.

bcdedit/enum all>bcd.txt
notepad  bcd.txt

Now copy/paste the text in your post. close notepad and delete the file. I need readable text, so I can copy/paste and make eventually new commands to instruct you

I could not remember how to get it to copy to Notepad. The snip posted above that you probably can't identify is a bcdedit sans Notepad.

Anyway, below are the new bcdedit snips.

 

[Kaktussoft]

Thanks for your help. I ran the startup repair 3 times. They did so without any errors, glitches or anything. Below is the AOMEI snip and the bcdeddit/enum all>bcd.txt snip.

Is this correct what the AOMEI snip shows?

AOMEI screenshot is fine. One large partition with unallocated space in front. Who cares about unallocated space?! If OS has been transfered and works without errors... you can delete partition OS on HDD. And then create any partition you want.

Sounds great! So good, so far.

I don't see bcdedit output.

bcdedit/enum all>bcd.txt
notepad  bcd.txt

Now copy/paste the text in your post. close notepad and delete the file. I need readable text, so I can copy/paste and make eventually new commands to instruct you

I could not remember how to get it to copy to Notepad. The snip posted above that you probably can't identify is a bcdedit sans Notepad.

Anyway, below are the new bcdedit snips.

bcdedit output looks fine. But still no F8 winre functionality!

In elevated command prompt:

reagentc/enable

Works? If so post bcdedit output again.

If not ... do you have file c:\windows\system32\recovery\winre.wim ?

 

[LeftC]

AOMEI screenshot is fine. One large partition with unallocated space in front. Who cares about unallocated space?! If OS has been transfered and works without errors... you can delete partition OS on HDD. And then create any partition you want.

Sounds great! So good, so far.

I don't see bcdedit output.

bcdedit/enum all>bcd.txt
notepad  bcd.txt

Now copy/paste the text in your post. close notepad and delete the file. I need readable text, so I can copy/paste and make eventually new commands to instruct you

I could not remember how to get it to copy to Notepad. The snip posted above that you probably can't identify is a bcdedit sans Notepad.

Anyway, below are the new bcdedit snips.

bcdedit output looks fine. But still no F8 winre functionality!

In elevated command prompt:

reagentc/enable

Works? If so post bcdedit output again.

If not ... do you have file c:\windows\system32\recovery\winre.wim ?

Sorry, I've been out of town.

Well shucks, doesn't work and I don't have winre.wim See snips below. I DO have winRe.wim See later replies.

 

[LeftC]

I found file winRE.wim

 

[Kaktussoft]

reagentc /setreimage /path  c:\windows\system32\recovery
reagentc /enable

 

[LeftC]

reagentc /setreimage /path  c:\windows\system32\recovery
reagentc /enable

Got it! (I think so, anyway.) See snips

I did this too:

bcdedit/enum all>bcd.txt
notepad bcd.txt

and then deleted using:

del bcd.txt

Is this OK?

 

[Kaktussoft]

All fine now!! reagentc/setreimage did tell win7 where to find it (winre.wim). Originally it was located on partition RECOVERY that you did delete.

Now try to boot to advanced boot options->repair your computer
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/666-advanced-boot-options.html click "repair you computer". Does it load?
No need to do anything there. Reboot normally afterwards.

Works?

SSD already attached to system?

 

[LeftC]

All fine now!! reagentc/setreimage did tell win7 where to find it (winre.wim). Originally it was located on partition RECOVERY that you did delete.

Great news!

What's next?

Just FYI, it boots up a bit slower now for some reason.

Now try to boot to advanced boot options->repair your computer
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/666-advanced-boot-options.html click "repair you computer". Does it load?
No need to do anything there. Reboot normally afterwards.

Works?

Works! F8, F2 and F12 boot keys all work.

SSD already attached to system?

It isn't attached yet. I'm waiting because the SSD installs where the DVD player is. I'll need the DVD player to use for a clean install using the Windows 7 installation disc. This should not slow anything down, though. I have cables to connect the DVD player to both the eSATA port or a USB port. This way I can use it outside of the machine. I also have a cable to use the SSD outside of the machineo. In other words, you don't have to wait on me to install anything. The SSD, DVD player and hard drive shouldn't be hampered and can be used.

I should be able to install it after we have the Win 7 data onto the SSD. Do note that I have several data transfer means if needed: Paragon Migrate OS to SSD, Samsung's very latest Data Migration software, Apricorn's EZ GIG IV, etc.

Do I need to initialize the SSD; format it, align it or install its latest firmware, partition or do anything to it before use? We are going from a 1 TB HD to a 512 GB SSD. The SSD hasn't been used before.

I see that the SSD will be formatted automatically as part of the Win 7 install process.

Is it OK to delete the ADRInfos Notepad entry on the C drive now. It's rather new (1/22/13). See snips below.

Thanks a million for helping me with this project!!!!

 

[Kaktussoft]

Didn't know you want a clean install(!?) I thought you want to transfer OS from HDD to SSD

 

[LeftC]

Didn't know you want a clean install(!?) I thought you want to transfer OS from HDD to SSD

We can set it up the way that you were headed.

Clean install not really necessary. Laptop is somewhat new and it runs really well.

Transfer is fine.

 

[Kaktussoft]

Didn't know you want a clean install(!?) I thought you want to transfer OS from HDD to SSD

We can set it up the way that you were headed.

Clean install not really necessary. Laptop is somewhat new and it runs really well.

Transfer is fine.

You can do the clone within win7. You don't need a DVD drive at all. But a DVD drive is very useful for installing software/games. Not for the things I want you to do. You can also put win7 install DVD on usb stick and boot from that usb stick to clean install/repair system.

 

[LeftC]

Didn't know you want a clean install(!?) I thought you want to transfer OS from HDD to SSD

We can set it up the way that you were headed.

Clean install not really necessary. Laptop is somewhat new and it runs really well.

Transfer is fine.

You can do the clone within win7. You don't need a DVD drive at all. But a DVD drive is very useful for installing software/games. Not for the things I want you to do. You can also put win7 install DVD on usb stick and boot from that usb stick to clean install/repair system.

What's next?

 

[Kaktussoft]

Of course attach ssd to system. Install macrium reflect free from Macrium Reflect FREE Edition - Information and download (scroll down). close all other running applications. Run macrium reflect. Press "clone this disk". select the source and destination disk. Select partitions you want to clone (you only have 1 the OS partition). You can adjust the size of destination partition. Make it as large as possible ... so using whole SSD (I think it's default). Make partition primary and active (think it is same as source by default). ALIGN DESTINATION PARTITION win7/vista!

http://www.macrium.com/help/v5/partition_alignment.htm



Start the clone process. Of course do nothing else on computer, because clone is the state as it is now. You can display documents and browse internet if you want.

When clone has completed succesfully you can see SSD in windows explorer. SSD has drive letter F for example. I use it in next explanation. We gonna check if all is fine.

In http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/783-elevated-command-prompt.html

diskpart
sel  vol  F
detail part
exit

is it active?

diskpart
sel dis 0
uniqueid disk
sel dis 1
uniqueid disk

Disk ID's are different?....that's what you want.

bcdedit/store F:\boot\bcd

All lines with device, osdevice, ramdisksdidevice, ramdisksdidevice are refering to F: or BOOT? So C: is nowhere in output? All should refere to F... that's nice. If you boot from SSD it all will be called C.


All is as expected? Shutdown and change "boot order" in bios, so it boots from SSD. Look in disk management if SSD is called C now.

Start disk defragment->schedule->select disks. SSD is not listed there.... then win7 knows it's an SSD instead of normal HDD. Select any disk you want to defragment. Never defragment SSD.

Config system restore settings http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/330-system-protection-turn-off.html
Any ghost disks there? If so disable system protection on that ghost disk. Be sure to enable system protection on C as shown in step 10.

In elevated command prompt:

fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify

Is it 0? If not

fsutil behavior set DisableDeleteNotify 0

This puts TRIM on on SSD.

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