What will be the limit?

[Erick Aguilar]

In terms of game requirements, and how demanding they are.
What would a game need to do in order to increase it's demands to the system past.. lets say.. A GTX Titan, or an HD7970? It seems those cards can pretty much obliterate any game.

But what about games? What would a game need to have in order to make these new cards useless and unable to even pull 30 FPS?

I thought this would be an interesting topic.

 

[Quadrider10]

i dont think there will ever be a limit....

technology is always increasing and improving and along with that so are game engines, screen resolutions, CPU's and GPU's. so as gpu's increse, so do screen resolutions, and games to meet those requirements. for the record, 4k TV's are now out, so expect to see a 4k compatible GPU in a few years. however, they do cost the price of a new mercadies.

now xbox and PS3 are different stories. it is belived that the xbox 720 (the new one thats sopose to come out) is sopose to have the ATI 6670 gpu. a lower end GPU. so games are limited to those system specs. and always will be unless they manage to make a full blown gaming computer out of an xbox.

 

[Erick Aguilar]

i dont think there will ever be a limit....

technology is always increasing and improving and along with that so are game engines, screen resolutions, CPU's and GPU's. so as gpu's increse, so do screen resolutions, and games to meet those requirements. for the record, 4k TV's are now out, so expect to see a 4k compatible GPU in a few years. however, they do cost the price of a new mercadies.

now xbox and PS3 are different stories. it is belived that the xbox 720 (the new one thats sopose to come out) is sopose to have the ATI 6670 gpu. a lower end GPU. so games are limited to those system specs. and always will be unless they manage to make a full blown gaming computer out of an xbox.

Lets keep this to desktops, and not gaming consoles.

The question is really, what would a game need to obliterate a titan or 7970. Not why we would need better technology..

 

[Wishmaster]

It will depend on how fast consoles advance.
Games today, with the exception of very few, are designed around the abilities of a console.

Then ported to PC. Some Devs add extra things to make them look better, but it still doesn't change the fact the game was initially designed for a consoles ability.

Sad but true.
And also the fact a console can be highly optimized to run on that hardware.
Where as with PC games, there are hundreds of possible configurations each capable of different levels of 3D rendering.

And of course, Devs want to accomodate as many as possible. This is why technically, a PC needs a bit more power to run at the same settings a console will. Its not as optimized. Still, theres so much extra power in the typical gaming PC they can just strong-arm thier way through and have thier way without much issue.

It would be interesting to see a game that takes full advantage of a modern gaming PC. But in order to take full advatage, I think all PCs would need to be running the same HW to be as optimized as possible.. which is sadly impossible.

Could you image a highly optimized game designed to take full advantage of a PCs power with a stock 2600K, GTX 570 and 4Gb of RAM? That alone if targeted as such would result in an amazing game visually IMHO.
Much less what PCs are currently capable of.

 

[Quadrider10]

i dont think there will ever be a limit....

technology is always increasing and improving and along with that so are game engines, screen resolutions, CPU's and GPU's. so as gpu's increse, so do screen resolutions, and games to meet those requirements. for the record, 4k TV's are now out, so expect to see a 4k compatible GPU in a few years. however, they do cost the price of a new mercadies.

now xbox and PS3 are different stories. it is belived that the xbox 720 (the new one thats sopose to come out) is sopose to have the ATI 6670 gpu. a lower end GPU. so games are limited to those system specs. and always will be unless they manage to make a full blown gaming computer out of an xbox.

Lets keep this to desktops, and not gaming consoles.

The question is really, what would a game need to obliterate a titan or 7970. Not why we would need better technology..

im sure games, developers, and engines will be completely be able to obliterate a titan. however, if you need a titan GPU and highest end CPU to run that game, would you buy it? probs not. thats y games dont exceed the hardware capabilities that are currently affordable to the general public and occasional gamer. like me.

i dont have the fastest laptop available, but its still fast. i want BF3, and my computer will be able to run it, (poorly) so i will buy it. but if it costed $100 and i would NEVER be able to run that game because of hardware incompatibilities, i would never buy it.

 

[Erick Aguilar]

i dont think there will ever be a limit....

technology is always increasing and improving and along with that so are game engines, screen resolutions, CPU's and GPU's. so as gpu's increse, so do screen resolutions, and games to meet those requirements. for the record, 4k TV's are now out, so expect to see a 4k compatible GPU in a few years. however, they do cost the price of a new mercadies.

now xbox and PS3 are different stories. it is belived that the xbox 720 (the new one thats sopose to come out) is sopose to have the ATI 6670 gpu. a lower end GPU. so games are limited to those system specs. and always will be unless they manage to make a full blown gaming computer out of an xbox.

Lets keep this to desktops, and not gaming consoles.

The question is really, what would a game need to obliterate a titan or 7970. Not why we would need better technology..

im sure games, developers, and engines will be completely be able to obliterate a titan. however, if you need a titan GPU and highest end CPU to run that game, would you buy it? probs not. thats y games dont exceed the hardware capabilities that are currently affordable to the general public and occasional gamer. like me.

i dont have the fastest laptop available, but its still fast. i want BF3, and my computer will be able to run it, (poorly) so i will buy it. but if it costed $100 and i would NEVER be able to run that game because of hardware incompatibilities, i would never buy it.

But even so. A titan can barely run Crysis 3. And people are making a huge fad about Crysis 3.
I don't believe it would be a hardware compatibility, but a hardware requirement not being fullfiled.

 

[Quadrider10]

Lets keep this to desktops, and not gaming consoles.

The question is really, what would a game need to obliterate a titan or 7970. Not why we would need better technology..

im sure games, developers, and engines will be completely be able to obliterate a titan. however, if you need a titan GPU and highest end CPU to run that game, would you buy it? probs not. thats y games dont exceed the hardware capabilities that are currently affordable to the general public and occasional gamer. like me.

i dont have the fastest laptop available, but its still fast. i want BF3, and my computer will be able to run it, (poorly) so i will buy it. but if it costed $100 and i would NEVER be able to run that game because of hardware incompatibilities, i would never buy it.

But even so. A titan can barely run Crysis 3. And people are making a huge fad about Crysis 3.
I don't believe it would be a hardware compatibility, but a hardware requirement not being fullfiled.

it also depends on how well a game is optimized too. i noticed games like COD MW2 is like insanely optimized and i can run that game on almost full specs, but Black Ops, i cant even play it on the lowest settings. and there the same game engines.

 

[Britton30]

Perhaps a true 3D game. Maybe a game , and yet to be invented hardware, with an interactive holographic image. One could manipulate the holograms by a virtual touch and handle virtual objects.

 

[Quadrider10]

Perhaps a true 3D game. Maybe a game , and yet to be invented hardware, with an interactive holographic image. One could manipulate the holograms by a virtual touch and handle virtual objects.

like kinect on a whole new level!

 

[Erick Aguilar]

Perhaps a true 3D game. Maybe a game , and yet to be invented hardware, with an interactive holographic image. One could manipulate the holograms by a virtual touch and handle virtual objects.

This.
I'm glad you understand the real topic of the thread!

 

[kbrady1979]

A game played on a 4k resolution monitor.

 

[Erick Aguilar]

A game played on a 4k resolution monitor.

That would be the monitor being bottleneck with the game. I doubt the game would run without huge black borders on a 4k monitor

 

[kbrady1979]

OK, a game with 4k resolution options.

 

[chris1neji]

To be honest I feel like todays card aren't all that powerful. I mean the Titan is meant for people with multi monitor we are talking 3 monitors running in a combined resolution of 5760 x 1200 at high settings a titan has a hard time maintaining FPS in the 30 - 40 fps range.

Results: Battlefield 3 : Benchmarking GeForce GTX Titan 6 GB: Fast, Quiet, Consistent

A single one of those bad boys can't even run Far Cry 3 at more than 30FPS.

Gamers are still waiting for smarter AI, being able to load more players or characters, high quality sound. The devil is in the details, I want to see great facial features and details but it has to be applied to everything. This is just looking at pure raw details, you can bet your ass that in the future games will go beyond just details which will require even more processing power. That is of course if we do not destroy ourselves, we have a long way to go as far as technology, science, medicine.

 

[kbrady1979]

To be honest I feel like todays card aren't all that powerful. I mean the Titan is meant for people with multi monitor we are talking 3 monitors running in a combined resolution of 5760 x 1200 at high settings a titan has a hard time maintaining FPS in the 30 - 40 fps range.

Results: Battlefield 3 : Benchmarking GeForce GTX Titan 6 GB: Fast, Quiet, Consistent

A single one of those bad boys can't even run Far Cry 3 at more than 30FPS.

Gamers are still waiting for smarter AI, being able to load more players or characters, high quality sound. The devil is in the details, I want to see great facial features and details but it has to be applied to everything. This is just looking at pure raw details, you can bet your ass that in the future games will go beyond just details which will require even more processing power. That is of course if we do not destroy ourselves, we have a long way to go as far as technology, science, medicine.

I agree with that but will add this: I would rather have a game that looks good but is an absolute blast to play, than a game with jaw-dropping graphics that is fun for 10 minutes. Sorry to say, that is where most games are today. Game developers lean too much on beauty, and content sometimes gets pushed to the back burner.

 

[chris1neji]

Your right that developers sometimes developers may spend too much time on making the perfect face or hand and that sometimes they forget about the actual gameplay. Let's face it we are always demanding more graphics, we are more likely to buy games that look beautiful than games with outdated blocks that looked like graphics from minecraft.

This is something that we did to ourselves, we can't have the luxury to buy any random game that may be ok, we buy blockbuster games that are A+ material.

 

[kbrady1979]

Unfortunately, blockbuster games are hit or miss anymore.

 

[chris1neji]

Your correct, it's unfortunate that all it takes to make a game be a blockbuster is the amount of advertisement. Cinematic graphics, cool sounds and pictures is all it takes to convince the average everyday gamer of what game to get next.

 

[kbrady1979]

True. A bit more "on topic", a game made and coded correctly, could have the most stunning graphics, physics and sound effects and not tax the hardware we had a few years ago. As it is, the games that are put out are poorly coded and inefficient.........and most are dumbed down because they are crappy console ports.

 

[chris1neji]

+1 to you sir! It would be nice to have a world where it wouldn't be profit driven. Developers would spend time perfecting their code, bugs, and glitches. One can dream can't it