Solved Which backup & restore to use

Yes, Full, differential and incremental imaging in Aomei Backupper Standard (free) version. File and folder backup also included in the free version.
 

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I guess I did not make my question clear enough. My question was "If I download & use the free version, can I do both a image backup & also backup data files to the same external drive or do I have to purchase the paid version to do this?" To clarify, does the free version allow you to do an image of the complete system for a compete restore of the disk if needed & but also provide a way to backup data files (not an image of data files) but a copy of the new, changed, deleted file, etc.
The free version of Macrium Reflect supports "system image" backups only. It does NOT provide selective folder/file "data backup" functionality. The feature comparison chart shows that. The free version also does NOT get vendor support (by email or forum).

To get true selective folder/file "data backup" (allowing you to selectively backup only what folders/files you want from assorted drives, as well as to selectively recover folder(s)/file(s) if you need to without having to restore the entire drive from a "system image"), you need the paid non-free Standard version.

Furthermore, the paid version also includes "space management" functionality. This is "automatic pruning" of older generations, so that you can retain only as many versions of both "system image" and "data backups" that you want, and the next time you run the backup job to create a new version the oldest one will be automatically deleted. If you use the free version of the program this auto-pruning does not occur, so you'll have to manually do it yourself. This is a real convenience to have it done automatically, once you're in steady state with a regular backup regimen.

As far as the target output media for either "system image" or "data backup", most commonly you'd use an external USB 3.0 drive. You can obviously configure the output of your your backups to go wherever you want, but having two primary target folders (for the two types of backups) on the external drive makes common intuitive sense.


You should consider a backup regimen that provides adequate and sufficient protection and recovery capability to satisfy your own paranoia, or personal/professional requirements. We know we will cry if we lose priceless or irreplaceable personal or professional data, so anything that can be done that can pretty much guarantee that will not happen is what you should do. This can go to extremes of course, such as running TWO backups every time... to two separate output backup media, and then disconnecting the second external drive and bringing it to an external storage facility that is not in your home, etc. Up to you.

I, myself, run "system images" of the C-partition weekly on one desktop machine, and twice-weekly on my HTPC machine. I retain 5 generations of the once-weekly backups, and 10 generations of the twice-weekly backups.

Also, I honestly prefer the look and feel and overall feature list of another program named NovaBACKUP (from NovaStor) for "data backup" of folders/files, as compared to the comparable folder/file capabilities of Macrium Reflect. So although I could have saved money by not buying NovaBACKUP, I've been using it ever since upgrading to Win7 back in 2009. I love it.

So, using NovaBACKUP (to write its "data backups" to the same external USB 3.0 drive I use for my "system image" backups out of Macrium Reflect Standard) I take monthly FULL backups of all my "data" (on C, as well as on all of my other multiple drives/partitions). I also take daily INCREMENTAL backups of the same "data". I retain 4 complete "monthly sets" (i.e. monthly FULL plus each of the daily INCREMENTAL backups for the rest of that month) of these "data backups".

NovaBACKUP has a wonderful "time-based restore" capability that allows you to pick the as-of date for recovery of folder/file data, which might exist on multiple backup datasets. You simply specify (through a time slider GUI) a particular as-of date (sliding backwards from "as of TODAY"), thus requesting the restore of "the most recent version on whatever backup dataset it resides on, that satisfies the as-of data specified". Newer versions on later backups are ignored, and older backups on earlier backups are not used. Whichever is the RIGHT backup dataset to satisfy your specified "most current version as-of this date" is selected by the program, automatically. You don't have to know or search for yourself... the program simply does it for you.


You get what you pay for, is my feeling. I will absolutely support "live" software products that have active support from the vendor, including fixes and enhancements. And for that, they must have money. And I will pay that money to them (including annual maintenance if they ask) to get the best product for my needs.

And in my opinion, Macrium Reflect Standard (which also includes vendor support, that the "free" version does not) is worth the $45 for a single license or $90 for four licenses. Its "system image" backups of my C-drive guarantee quick and easy recovery from a system disaster, or migration to new hardware (like SSD).

Also, in my opinion NovaBACKUP is absolutely worth the $50 for its "professional" license. Don't know how many times I've had to recover some lost or corrupted or unwittingly deleted folder/file over the years... probably very few. But just having it run automatically every night to do INCREMENTAL backups of any data I've created or updated that day, and also run automatically every month to do FULL backups of all of my data (just for having convenient recovery access to everything I have, even if it hasn't been updated or created recently so as to appear on some INCREMENTAL backup), again... I feel secure.

I also take DAT (tape) backups to my HP DAT160 drive every few months or so (again, using NovaBACKUP which supports DAT as a storage medium) just to have a secondary backup that sits in my drawer (or could be taken offsite conveniently) where it's not subject to electrical disturbances.

Again, Macrium Reflect Standard provides both "system image" and "data backup" capability, but I use only its "system image" functionality. Similarly, NovaBACKUP provides both "data backup" as well as "system image" capability, but I use only its "data backup" functionality. This is no problem or inconvenience, as both products provide automatic scheduling of jobs (to run weekly, monthly, daily, etc.) so once you set up the schedule for each backup stream for the two products, you really never have to think about it. They just automatically run overnight when they should, and I'm secure. There's no reason not to use two different but similar products if there's a difference between them, and some reason to justify it. The small additional dollar cost is irrelevant.

That's my story.
 

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^There you have it...AOEMI is the way to go :thumbsup: Thanks Si!
 

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Not sure if it backs up files "incrementally". Looks like you can select which files/folders to back up, specify inclusion and exclusions, and schedule. That is what most people want, it seems.

Looks similar to what paid macrium does for files/folders:

macrium:

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Aomei free:

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http://www.backup-utility.com/features/file-backup.html




It does incremental/differential imaging.

If you want something that is a front end for robocopy functionality, Karen's replicator (free) is great.
 

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The two software approach is not as bad as you may think. I use FFS (FreeFileSync) to back up my data drives. It takes FFS about one minute per TB to scan a source drive and destination drive for changes. The actual backup, after the initial one, can take anywhere from a second or two to 20 or 30 minutes, depending on how many changes need to be made. FFS can also be set to send discarded files to a versioning folder you can set up on a backup drive. I do identical backups to two HDDs every day and each backup averages just three minutes per HDD. The backup is a usable copy of the source drive, unlike an image that either has to be restored back to the source drive, which is very time consuming. If I lose a data drive in my computer, I can disconnect it and pop in one of the backup HDDs and be back up and running in ten minutes, maybe even less, and still have the other backup HDD in case lightning strikes twice in the same place. That gives me time to get a replacement drive. With images, I wouldn't be able to do that.

I backup my C: drive once a week using Macrium Reflect and just before I make any changes to the drive. My C: drive is unusually large—62.7GB—but, even being that large, it takes only 10 minutes to image the drive and verify the image. However, the image is 25.7GB and keeping multiple images does eat up a lot of room. A folder/file syncing program can't be used to backup an OS and programs whereas imaging can. The size and time disadvantages of imaging can be mitigated by limiting imaging to just the OS and programs. To do that, the OS and programs must be kept on their own drive or partition and data on other drives or partitions. I save the images to my main data drive so they will get backed up when I backup that drive.

I recommend the free version of Macrium Reflect since most people don't need the extra bells and whistles of the paid version.I also have the paid version of Macrium Reflect but I haven't tried the folder backup feature on it. From what I read about it, it actually images at the folder level instead of syncing. Here is a quote from the Help file on folder backup:

File and Folder Backup

Select the files and folders you want to backup, apply filtering criteria to include and exclude files and folders, and Reflect creates a compressed backup file that can be restored directly or browsed using Windows Explorer.
You can create full, differential, and incremental backups to optimize backup speed and disk space requirements.

That suggests imaging to me and I prefer using a syncing program.
 

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Some Backup Imaging programs include ALL partitions it sees "as needed" to restore the system.
Acronis (paid) and Macrium (free) are the programs I've used that allow ME to choose what partition(s) to include in the backup.
I have multi-boot PCs with User data stored in a "Non OS" partition.
So, this is important to ME.
I don't want a backup image to include a partition I don't want to restore if I only need to restore "OS-1".
The backup images simply take up too much space, more backup time, and what will the restore do...

If I want to restore "OS-1" ONLY on my PC, Acronis and Macrium can do that.
They leave "OS-2, OS-3, Data" partitions alone, exactly as they should be.
i.e. I tried something in "OS-1", didn't like it, and want to back out THAT CHANGE ONLY.

INCREMENTAL backups depend on EVERY incremental backup being reliable to restore to that point.
Some programs such as Acronis also have a DIFFERENTIAL backup option.
A differential does not depend on every differential backup since the "Base Image" was created.

I use FULL backups as I believe they are the most reliable.

The only way you, me, or anyone will know if the program and method used really works is to do a restore.

I've been using Acronis for years and I know it's reliable for me for Win 7 and earlier OSs.
I've been testing others, and I think Macrium is reliable, but I don't have years of restoring without problems ...

I recently installed Win 8, upgraded to 8.1, and haven't tried restoring a backup image yet.
I have Macrium and Acronis backups, that restore test is on my "to-do" list.
 

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Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
Some Backup Imaging programs include ALL partitions it sees "as needed"

I think that is only windows image backup, can't think of any others.

Most will let you select Individual volumes. As you wish. Some also have, as a separate option "systembackup", for people who prefer that.

Aomei certainly does that, Paragon too.
 

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Some Backup Imaging programs include ALL partitions it sees "as needed"
I think that is only windows image backup, can't think of any others.
Let's stick to the facts as more than the OP picks up on these threads. It is not responsible to dismiss Windows inbuilt system imaging out of hand. For basic OS imaging and restore it works well for many.

Windows imaging will require only those partitions required to restore a functional operating system. It requires System Reserved (if you have that separate partition) and the operating system partition. It will include other partitions if they contain system files.
 

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Who is dismissing it? I must have missed something. Seems to me this is pretty accurate:

include ALL partitions it sees "as needed"
 

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It will include other partitions if they contain system files.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding ...

My understanding is depending on HOW a user MAY have configured THEIR system more partitions MAY be included in the backup image.
Did the OP "move" User data to a different partition using Libraries, or did they "MOVE" the user folder location ... ?

So, for some folks with a 30 GB used [OS] partition, a 500 GB used "Data" partition, and a 250 GB External drive, they MAY get an error for "Not enough space" trying to save the backup image to the external HD ... do they understand why ?

And for those folks that have a large enough backup drive/partition, do they understand that restoring the backup image MAY LOSE all USER DATA changes since the image was created ?

I create backup images for my "OS + programs" partitions independently than how, when, and why I backup USER data.

I can restore the OS AND/OR User data independently...
 

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Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
The bottom line is:
(1) If you want a basic system imaging program then Windows inbuilt is fine for many users. Difficulties may arise if you start doing more advanced operations such as moving default location of user folders, pagefiles etc. Before you do this you should be skilled enough to know the consequences.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/18629-user-folders-change-default-location.html

As far as integrity of data partitions on recovery is concerned this is covered in Step Two part (7) of this tutorial
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/675-system-image-recovery.html
You are warned before a full drive is formatted and typically this is only forced if you have changed the partition structure of the drive. Again, before you do this you should be skilled enough to know the consequences.
Windows imaging has met 90% of my requirements.

(2) This forum provides clear and detailed tutorials on creating and recovering windows (inbuilt) system images by a forum Administrator.
I don't recall any blanket statement recommending against its use. Also, no one forces you to use it.
 

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Thank you all

I want to thank ALL who have replied to my request for help and shared their knowledge & experience with me. It is greatly appreciated.

Now I feel like a slapped fanny as I did not realize I could not back up to my existing C drive & that all backups must be put on an external drive or DVD's, etc.. I will have to purchase another external drive as I feel that is the way to go. In all probability I will go with the free Aomei & Windows as that seems to give me the most flexibility at a reasonable price. Being a retired senior citizen I have to watch my expenses.

Any suggestions on what type of external drive (make & model) I should purchase? I am thinking of a 1TB drive as that is the same size as my C drive. Does it matter if it is a USB 2 or 3?

Also, should I start with Aomei or Windows first until I can get another external drive? I can wipe my existing 250 MB drive clean & start there.
 

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1TB - SATA
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Might be better to use aomei, the image it creates will be much smaller and easier to manage

Create the winpe rescue media as well.


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    gigabyte b365m ds3h
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    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
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    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
Any suggestions on what type of external drive (make & model) I should purchase? I am thinking of a 1TB drive as that is the same size as my C drive. Does it matter if it is a USB 2 or 3?
If you have USB 3.0 capability in your PC, you should absolutely go with a USB 3.0 external drive. Virtually all newer drives are compatible with both USB 3.0 as well as USB 2.0 (if you plug it into a USB 2.0 port). But you should be using USB 3.0, as it's 3-5 times faster than USB 2.0, both on the outbound backup side as well as on the inbound restore side if you need it.

I highly recommend this Verbatim 95780 2TB drive. It's priced right, I've installed at least a dozen of them over the past few years and they've been 100% reliable, and they come with "green software" that runs on the PC which spins-down the drive after 10 minutes of inactivity (and spins it back up when the drive is needed). I used to get them from B&H Photo, but they're no longer available from that source. Nevertheless, Amazon is perfectly fine as a source.

There's no reason to try and save a few bucks getting a smaller drive (e.g. 1TB) when the drive is priced like it is. You're going to be generating and retaining multiple generations of backups (probably auto-pruning the older ones eventually as your generate newer ones), but you'll always find a use for the extra space. Can't hurt.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home-built, two systems (1) and (2)
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
CPU
i5-3350p 3.1Ghz/6MB-cache (1); E8400 3.0Ghz/6MB-cache (2)
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z77-V Pro (1); ASUS P5Q3 (2)
Memory
8GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (1); 4GB PC3-10600 DDR3 (2)
Graphics Card(s)
ATI HD7750 (1), (see TV cards); ATI R7 250 (2)
Sound Card
Realtek ALC892 HD Audio (1); Realtek ALC1200 HD Audio (2)
Monitor(s) Displays
Eizo HD2441W LCD, Eizo S2433W (1); Eizo 24" S2433W (2)
Screen Resolution
1920x1200, 1920x1200 (1); 1920x1200 (2)
Hard Drives
(1) 1TB SATA-II (7200RPM), 2x2TB SATA-III (7200RPM), 250GB SATA-III (10000RPM) for OS; 2x2TB external USB 3.0

(2) 320GB SATA-II (7200RPM), 750GB SATA-II (7200RPM), 150GB SATA-II (10000RPM) for OS; 2TB external USB 3.0
PSU
Nesteq ECS-6001 600W (1); Nesteq ECS-5001 500W (2)
Case
Acousti-Case 360 (1) and (2)
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12P SE2 for CPU, 2x120mm case fans (1) and (2)
Keyboard
IBM PS/2 (1) and (2)
Mouse
Logitech MX Revolution wireless (1); Microsoft wired (2)
Internet Speed
100mbps down / 10mbps up
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials; Malwarebyte Anti-Malware Pro
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
Ceton InfiniTV 4-tuner cablecard-enabled TV card as well as Hauppauge HVR-2250 OTA/ATSC 2-tuner TV card in (1), running under Win7 WMC
USB 3 makes creating and restoring images much faster. Like the previous comment I wouldn't consider a new USB 2 only external nowadays. But you will need to ensure the restore boot pe either contains the USB 3 drivers for your PC or you know how to load them after you boot the restore DVD otherwise the ext HDD will not be recognized in a USB 3 port.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Own build
OS
Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
CPU
Intel i7 2600k
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe
Memory
G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+)
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro SSD 256GB, Samsung SSD 840 120GB, Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS x2
PSU
Seasonic M12II 520W
Case
Lian Li Lancool PC-K60
Cooling
Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+
Keyboard
Logitech MK520 (wireless)
Mouse
Logitech MK520
Internet Speed
6-7 Mbps
Antivirus
Norton Security Premium, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC)
Browser
FireFox
Other Info
Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1
Thank you all once again

I want to thank ALL who have replied to my request for help and shared their knowledge & experience with me. It is greatly appreciated.

My wife passed away suddenly 2 days after my last post to this thread. I have not had the time or honestly the desire to continue with my research. I think I have received enough info from you all to make my decision & I thank you again. I will now close this thread as requested.

bbrose2 (Bud Rose)
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
CPU
Intel 4th Generation Core i5
Memory
RAM 8GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD
Hard Drives
1TB - SATA
External Maxtor One Touch Mini 4 - 250GB
Antivirus
Norton & Advanced System Care Pro
Browser
IE 11
My condolences and prayers to you Bud for your loss.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 620
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
Memory
6GB GSkill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Sound Card
on board Realtek ALC889A
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ...
PSU
Corsair 500 W
Case
Rosewill mid tower
Cooling
CM 90mm rifle
Keyboard
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
Mouse
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired
Internet Speed
Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
Antivirus
Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
Browser
Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
Other Info
2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
That's sad news. My condolences to you and your family Bud.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Own build
OS
Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
CPU
Intel i7 2600k
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe
Memory
G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+)
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro SSD 256GB, Samsung SSD 840 120GB, Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS x2
PSU
Seasonic M12II 520W
Case
Lian Li Lancool PC-K60
Cooling
Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+
Keyboard
Logitech MK520 (wireless)
Mouse
Logitech MK520
Internet Speed
6-7 Mbps
Antivirus
Norton Security Premium, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC)
Browser
FireFox
Other Info
Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1
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