Solved Will New AMD x570 chipset mobos have Win 7 Chipset Drivers?!

[ryegrass]

MisterEd,

I keep a lot of spare parts around as well although it's getting harder to make use of them after upgrading. A couple of years ago all 3 of my computers were LGA 1155 (Asus P8P67 with Intel I7 CPUs) so it was easy to troubleshoot if any one computer failed. Of course at that time there was very little progress in terms of speed and productivity until the Ryzen CPUs hit. I then upgraded to the 3900X mentioned earlier in the thread, and now the 9950X. This leaves me with potentially three generations of computers, since I plan on putting the 3900X and motherboard in my son's computer and leave only the computer attached to my TV as an original P8P67.

I didn't start building my own computers till sometime in the mid 2000's though I played with both the TRS-80 in the early eighties and an IBM "portable" (lug-able) clone later that decade. At the time those computers were no more than curiosities to the general user and at least in my opinion didn't start to become useful general purpose machines until the early to mid 2000's when I bought my first Compaq computer.

I've tried Linux several times over the years, but it strikes me that its biggest weakness is its fragmentation. In Windows one can just download a binary and install it. Whereas, in Linux if it's not in the repository for that distro, good luck. Also Linux is a bit like a kit car where it's definitely possible to built a Ferrari or Lamborghini with a lot of hard work and know how, where Windows is like an old VW bug (not the best at a lot of things), but for the most part, for the average person, it just works.

Of course as Windows 7 depreciates further (where more and more newer software simply won't work), I'll have to decide whether to move on to a different operating system or not, possibly Windows 10 LTSC or Linux Mint.

 

[MisterEd]

To illustrate what I was talking about in a previous post...

Since Windows 7 doesn't by default support USB 3.0 then it is useful to deal with a motherboard that doesn't have USB 2.0 ports on the back panel. However, many motherboards even newer ones do have USB 2.0 headers on them. You can connect to these headers in two ways:
If the case front panel had USB 2.0 ports then you can plug its cables into one of the USB 2.0 headers. That will add either 2 or 4 USB 2.0 ports to the computer's front panel.

You can also buy a USB 2.0 bracket for the back panel of the computer and plug its cables into the USB 2.0 headers. It will either support 2 or 4 USB 2.0 ports.



If use install Windows 7 on a computer with an old enough motherboard it may not support USB 3.0. You can solve this by adding a PCIe card with 2 or more USB 3.0 ports. The following card adds 2 x USB 3.0 ports to the back panel. It also has a 20-pin USB 3.0 connector. You can use it with a computer case that has 2 x USB 3.0 front ports.

 

[AquaVixen]

And before anyone says about security, Windows 7 is still receiving MS security updates through Jan 2026.

This is completely false. All updates for Windows 7 were stopped in Janurary 2024. No updates are being released for Windows 7 at all (security or otherwise) ever again. And no you can't update your Windows 7 computer with that UpdatePack7 nonsense. It doesn't update Windows 7 either.
Also about Windows 7 on these processors: It seems you forgot to "fix" your processor for Windows 7. Ryzen processors in Windows 7 can not game properly unless you disable SMT for all Ryzen processors in Windows 7. Any Ryzen processor with multiple CCD's need to disable half of the cores on the other CCD as well.

I've tried Windows 7 on a Ryzen 5900X and 5950X before (both processors have 2 CCD's). On both processors in Windows 7 all full screen games will "lag" with frametimes jumping up and down between 20ms -> 100ms -> 20ms -> 100ms constantly, providing a rough and not smooth gaming experience. This is because the Windows 7 kernel scheduler treats Ryzen processors as two physical processors, because it doesn't understand how to work with a processor with two CCD's on it like Ryzen has. Those processors didn't exist when Windows 7 was commonly used.

If you Intend to use Windows 7 on a Ryzen 9950X for gaming you need to disable SMT and half the CPU cores.

 

[ryegrass]

AquaVixen
Maybe next time you should do some research before posting.

Simplix Pack to update Live Win7 System/ Integrate hotfixes into Win7 distribution | My Digital Life Forums

Bypass Windows 7 Extended Security Updates Eligibility | My Digital Life Forums

I'm sorry you weren't able to make your machine work, but just because you weren't able to do something doesn't mean it can't be done.

P.S. Not everyone uses their computer for gaming.

 

[AquaVixen]

AquaVixen
Maybe next time you should do some research before posting.

Simplix Pack to update Live Win7 System/ Integrate hotfixes into Win7 distribution | My Digital Life Forums

I know exactly what UpdatePack7 is: It's something 1 random person on the internet created. They use a generic wordpress blog template as a "website" to distribute it. They take Windows updates released for Server 2008 and Windows Embedded Standard 7 (which are NOT designed for Windows 7) then modify them and wrap them up inside of their program and distribute those updates claiming "USE THIS TO UPDATE WINDOWS 7!". It's 100% a scam. Many people using Windows 7 religiously install this (and promote it all over the internet) as if it's updating Windows 7. UpdatePack7 can't possibly update Windows 7 as Microsoft hasn't released a single new update specifically designed for Windows 7 since the beginning of 2024. Windows 7 can't be updated if there's nothing to update it with. New updates for Windows 7 do not exist at all.

I'm sorry you weren't able to make your machine work, but just because you weren't able to do something doesn't mean it can't be done.
P.S. Not everyone uses their computer for gaming.

I would find it very difficult to believe someone would use a modern processor like the 9950X in a desktop operating system like Windows 7 and never play games on it. And no: It's not my system. I've tried Windows 7 on Multi-CCD ryzen processors in multiple different computer systems and even tried to help people over the internet get it to work. As I said above: Windows 7 does not play nice with Multi-CCD processors.

 

[ryegrass]

MisterEd,
I had a pretty good idea of what you were doing from your original post, but appreciate the photos. One reason I got an older PCIe to USB card from eBay is that I read that most if not all of the newer motherboards were using the USB 3 chipsets to provide USB 2 functionality as well, so that if no USB 3 drivers were installed, the USB 2 headers wouldn't work. Since the USB 2 headers are working on the motherboards you're using, that must not be true for all of the newer boards.