Windows 7 and Security

enigma1944

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I currently use Avira Premium & Windows Defender on my x64 laptop.

Next month I will be upgrading from Vista to W7 so my question pertains to the security requirements for W7. According to a Microsoft news release, a new security suite Windows Live Essentials will be released very soon to replace Windows Live Care. From this news item I get the impression that this new security will more than accomplish my personal laptop requirements.

Continuing this thought I am wondering if I should just let my Avira Premium expire in Mar 2010 and just use the new Microsoft configuration. To add to my confusion, Avira just sent me an offer to extend my license from Mar 2010 for 22 MONTHS for $53.


Your thoughts please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks
 

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Hello Enigma,

I'm beta testing Microsoft Security Essentials, and so far it does a great job of protecting the computer from malware and viruses, and the definitions are updated everyday. In addition the free Avast antivirus program has a beta that they are working on now that will be completely compatable with Windows 7 while also using Microsoft Security Essentials at the same time for even more protection.

Hope this helps,
Shawn
 
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Hello enigma, like Shawn said, i m too testing MSE and Avast side by side and looks like they are playing great together.
 

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Samsung NP530U4B-S02IN
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Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit)
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Intel® Core™ i5 Processor 2467M (1.60GHz, 3MB L3 Cache)
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Samsung Electronics
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Microsoft Security Essentials
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Google Chrome (Sync enabled)
MSE works very well, and will continue to be free upon its release, so I couldn't see spending any money on an AV product right now. You can find the current builds of MSE easily, so that's all you'll need for resident protection. Malwarebytes is nice to have as a manual scanner.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
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Intel Core i7-2600
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Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3
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Nvidia GTX 470
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Dell UltraSharp 2209WA
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OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS
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OCZ ModStream 700W
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CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced
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CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus
I'd run Avira until the current subscription runs out, and run MSE along side of it to see if MSE is better.

From the reviews of MSE, it is one of the better ones already, while still in beta. As I recall, the folks building it are from Giant, which Microsoft bought a few years ago. Giant was a real nice AV, and could get rid of a lot of stuff the others couldn't.
 

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You can cause some major performance and integrity issues if you are running two activa scanners at once. If you don't want to uninstall a product you are paying for at this point, then try MSE out in a VM. Or, disable one and let one run resident.
 

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OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
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Intel Core i7-2600
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3
Memory
12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GTX 470
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp 2209WA
Hard Drives
OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS
PSU
OCZ ModStream 700W
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced
Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus
disable one and let one run resident

That's the best way, if you want two antivirus programs. These applications are resource hogs and will fight each other for your systems resources. They may even fight each other's definitions. So... just run one at a time.
 

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PC/Desktop
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Bruce ... somewhere in his 40's
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2400 MHz
Motherboard
INTEL/D975XBX2
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro
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Samsung SyncMaster 914v
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1280 x 1024
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2/500GB each ... ST3500630AS ATA Device.
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Rocketfish 700 W
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G.Skill Gigabyte Chassis
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Standard PS/2 Keyboard
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Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
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DSL
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Avira Internet Security
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IE 11
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disable one and let one run resident
That's the best way, if you want two antivirus programs. These applications are resource hogs and will fight each other for your systems resources. They may even fight each other's definitions. So... just run one at a time.
Hi Jacee, would you recommend Mcafee?
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Samsung NP530U4B-S02IN
OS
Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit)
CPU
Intel® Core™ i5 Processor 2467M (1.60GHz, 3MB L3 Cache)
Motherboard
Samsung Electronics
Memory
6GB DDR3 System Memory at 1,333MHz (on BD 4GB + 2GB x 1)
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon™ HD7550M 1GB DDR3 (Ext. Graphic)
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
35.56cm (14.0) SuperBright 300nit HD LED Display
Screen Resolution
1366x768
Hard Drives
1TB S-ATA II Hard Drive (5400RPM) with ExpressCache 16GB SSD
Internet Speed
sucks
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser
Google Chrome (Sync enabled)
I've never used McAfee, so as for recommending it.... I can't say one way or the other.
 

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PC/Desktop
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Bruce ... somewhere in his 40's
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Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
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Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2400 MHz
Motherboard
INTEL/D975XBX2
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 914v
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1280 x 1024
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2/500GB each ... ST3500630AS ATA Device.
One is not connected
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Rocketfish 700 W
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G.Skill Gigabyte Chassis
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Standard PS/2 Keyboard
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Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
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DSL
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Avira Internet Security
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IE 11
Other Info
ATI HDMI Audio
I've used McAfee, and the only program more difficult to remove was Norton. I would not recommend using it if you feel you have another viable option.
 

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Intel, Intel, Asus
Memory
8G, 3G, 3G
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On-board Intel, On-board nVidia, nVIDIA card
Sound Card
on-board, on-board, SoundBlaster
Monitor(s) Displays
Hannspree HF237, Toshiba, SyncMaster 931B
Screen Resolution
default (all)
Hard Drives
1T internal, 320G internal, 160G internal, 1T networked
PSU
300w, unk, 650w
Case
black, black, grey
Cooling
air (all)
Keyboard
standard wired (all)
Mouse
standard wired (all)
Internet Speed
6M down, 768K up
Other Info
Home LAN through Linksys hub to 4 port and wireless switch/router. Networked HP 2600n. Wife's computer running Windows 7, and spare laptop running Ubuntu "Karmic Kola" (9.10).
Hi Jacee, would you recommend Mcafee?
Friends don't let friends drink and drive, or use Mcafee. Why use a bloated, expensive package, when you can find a leaner, better product for free? Hell, just about any of the free ones scan and catch more than Mcafee.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i7-2600
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3
Memory
12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GTX 470
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp 2209WA
Hard Drives
OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS
PSU
OCZ ModStream 700W
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced
Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus
I see that you guys concentrate your first and main line of defense/security in softwares based on blacklists mechanisms. This approach is a little bit wrong in these days, why? It's simple blacklists are outdated. In these days when new viruses are created very fast there is many 0-day threats which blacklists won't be able to detect - of course possibly it will be added to blacklists your favourite AV/AS/AM softwares but WHEN? after 5h? after one week? perhaps after 1 month or year? And when you are waiting for the new signatures to your software - you can catch this 0-day threat.

Summary, on the first place in your security arsenal should be:
1. Prevention (HIPS softwares, virtualization, sandboxes, SRP, LUA, UAC, DEP, and also FW - hardware/software or both)
2. Detection (AV/AM/AS)
3. Cure (backup software - image backup/data backup, ISR software)

The best protection is protection based on few layers, and remember security it's specify subject and everyone should choose optimal configuration for your self.
 

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Self Built
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Windows 7 Home Premium x32 SP1
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Asus
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A-Data 2GB DDR2-800
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ATI X1250
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SB 5.1 Live!
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WD and Seagate FAP
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Tagan TG-480-U01
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BTC 6300
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Logitech VX Nano
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None
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