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When using W7 built in defrag what doesn't it defrag or if easier to post, what does it defrag.:confused:
 

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The default automatic always running in the background defrag,
defrags File Fragments that are 64M and smaller.

Start here to get a handle on exactly what and why Defrag in Win 7 is much better.

Command Line Options:
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/A Perform analysis on the specified volumes.
/C Perform the operation on all volumes.
/E Perform the operation on all volumes except those specified.
/H Run the operation at normal priority (default is low).
/M Run the operation on each volume in parallel in the background.
/T Track an operation already in progress on the specified volume.
/U Print the progress of the operation on the screen.
/V Print verbose output containing the fragmentation statistics.
/X Perform free space consolidation on the specified volumes.
 
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Thank you Tepid for the time you spent looking into that. Question; does it do registry. I have Googled and it seams that Microsoft is hiding most information. I think it is Diskeeper but I have no proof of that. I don't have any problems so this is just for information only. I use W7 built in defrag, I just don't know what it is or is not defraging. Thank you again. Good info.
 

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You don't need to defrag the registry.

I use Windows 7 defrag and it works fine for me.
 

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defragment need arises after your system has been used for a long period of time and has been accumulated with loads of data, i think defraging registry is also helpful to tweak up win 7, i did this once with some tool called reginout a few months back ...
 

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Thanks again for the post from all. I also use Windows 7 defrag, I was just wondering what it did or did not defrag.
 

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Thanks again for the post from all. I also use Windows 7 defrag, I was just wondering what it did or did not defrag.

Could'nt find what defragment does but surely a gain in knowledge.

Read this.

Hope this helped a bit.:geek:
 

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Found a bit of Information

It does not defragment files residing in the Recycle Bin or files that are in use.
In particular, this includes the registry, page file and hibernation file.

This gives a overview. ;)
 

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Thank you Tepid for the time you spent looking into that. Question; does it do registry.

It's important to distinguish between defragging the registry and cleaning it. I would strongly recommend staying away from registry cleaners, however I believe defragging the registry occasionally - once a month would be often enough - is helpful. It will recover some disk space and parse the registry, but you won't notice any difference in performance.

I use Quicksys Regdefrag for Windows 7 32 bit and 64 bit without problems.
 

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I like the fact that Windows 7 has a built in defrag, I would like Microsoft to include complete information on the defrag processes. I would read it.
 

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I like the fact that Windows 7 has a built in defrag, I would like Microsoft to include complete information on the defrag processes. I would read it.

Doesn't MS still use Perfect Disk?

~Maxx~
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I use the free Auslogics Disk and Registry defraggers monthly after CCleaning Disk and Registry.

Have never had any issue with any of these in hundreds of installs over ten years.

They are the state of the art.
 
I use the free Auslogics Disk and Registry defraggers.

I have had a great experience using the freeware Auslogics Registry Defragger on my x32 Vista computer, but it looks like all of their current x64 software is shareware. I may have to reconsider trying it on my x64 desktop because just like you said once a month it straightened the Vista Registry right out by reducing its size by 10% or so.

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I never use registry cleaners of any sort. Had a real bad experience when I tried one and it nuked my XP system a few years ago. Luckily had an external backup image to restore from, otherwise it would have been a royal pain reinstalling all the programs:p

When using W7 built in defrag what doesn't it defrag or if easier to post, what does it defrag.:confused:

IIRC, it doesn't defrag some (many?) of the system files, page files, fragments larger than 64 MB (in default mode) and if disk space is low (< 15%) it will have trouble defragging in general.
 

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I never use registry cleaners of any sort. Had a real bad experience when I tried one and it nuked my XP system a few years ago.

I've used the Registry cleaner in CCleaner and MV Reg Clean hundereds of times on several instances of Win 2000, Win XP and Win Vista without a single bad experience so I'm wondering what software it was that ravaged your XP system?

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There are a bunch of sales operation scam registry cleaners that pop up in web ads that are harmful. They give true genius apps like CCleaner a bad name.

I've also used CCleaner Registry cleaner for ten years now hundreds of times without a single issue. Those who claim it messed up their system usually have another possible cause.

The issue can be settled by simply backing up the Reg files cleaned as offered each time it runs. If an issue arises, merge them back in to see if this is the cause, or if computer won't boot then System Restore from DVD/CD.
 
I've also used CCleaner Registry cleaner for ten years now hundreds of times without a single issue.

CCleaner is the most regularly used and trouble free piece of software I use.

~Maxx~
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8 GB 1366 Mhz DDR3 (PC3-10700) RAM
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ATI Radeon 5770 1 GB DDR5 RAM
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Realtech High Definition
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32" Sony Bravia
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1366 X 768
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Intel 25nm 120 GB Series 320 SSD HD Tune- 265 MBps Read/ 130 MBps Write

LaCie 1TB + 1TB RAID 0 eSATA Drive HD Tune- 160 MBps Read/ 90 MBps Write
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Logitech Illuminated
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Logitech MX Revolution
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ATI Radeon HD 6770
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Realtek
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Dell IN2020M LED
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1600*900 20"
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Seagate 500 Gibs
External 320 Gb Western Digital(Got Glitchy)
PSU
Cooler Master
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Cooler Master
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Cooler Master
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Logitech K100
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Razor Death Adder v2 3500 dPi (Razer Goliathus Pad)
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Back to college Internet with Cyberroam X|
Thank you Bill2 that was a great read. I use built in Windows 7 defrag and now I know why.
 

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Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
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EVGA GTX 1070 OC
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Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
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EVGA Platium 1200W
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Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
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Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
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