Solved Windows 7 built in defrag

Ah well, I don't remember what exactly it was that damaged my XP install a few years...all I can remember is that it had a 'reg' as part of the name and it was one of the more 'popular' registry cleaning utilities of the time (~ 2003-3004) :o

IMHO, I am not sure if cleaning the registry provides much (if any) benefit. I personally feel that avoiding the installation of unnecessary programs helps to keep the registry 'clean' in the first place. :)

I have used CCleaner for disk cleanups..it is really excellent for that purpose..but I don't have the courage to let it touch the registry:p
 

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I have used CCleaner for disk cleanups..it is really excellent for that purpose..but I don't have the courage to let it touch the registry:p

CCleaner does have a reliable Registry Backup that can be used if you need it. I've used it before and it restores the registry perfectly.

~Maxx~

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HP HPE 270f
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Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
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Intel Core i7 930 @ 2.8 Ghz Socket 1366 LGA
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Pegatron Truckee v1.04E41
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8 GB 1366 Mhz DDR3 (PC3-10700) RAM
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ATI Radeon 5770 1 GB DDR5 RAM
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Realtech High Definition
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32" Sony Bravia
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Intel 25nm 120 GB Series 320 SSD HD Tune- 265 MBps Read/ 130 MBps Write

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Logitech Illuminated
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Logitech MX Revolution
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Well folks it's been a long time. I have tested a lot of defraggers and I can tell you they all just do things differently. Some by what I use more ofter and some I don't know. I have removed all of them and I stick with Windows 7 built in. Of course this is just my opinion.
 

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Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
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Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
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ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
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Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
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EVGA GTX 1070 OC
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Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
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INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
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EVGA Platium 1200W
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Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
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XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
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Das 4 Professional
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Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
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Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
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LG BluRay Burner/
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Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
Thank you. That is one I missed. I will give it a try. It takes a long time to test these programs because Windows 7 just doesn't get fragmented very much. My system seldom gets over 2%.
 

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Home made Desktop
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Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
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Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
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Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
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1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
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INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
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Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
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I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
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LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
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The Defragmentation and Optimization software which made the most noticeable and positive improvements in performance on my computers that use HDD's has been My Defrag in that it not only has a unique Defragmentation algorithm, but its ability to run user selected scripts and actually move files to their desired locations on the drive is one of a kind in my experience. I say this because my Vista computer actually makes shadow copies while the file optimization is taking place which is something I've never seen any other HDD Optimization program be able to induce. Its also the only optimization software that I ever tried that shaved 30 seconds off of the boot time although since My Defrag allows the use of custom made scripts this could probably be improved upon.

~Maxx~

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My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP HPE 270f
OS
Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
CPU
Intel Core i7 930 @ 2.8 Ghz Socket 1366 LGA
Motherboard
Pegatron Truckee v1.04E41
Memory
8 GB 1366 Mhz DDR3 (PC3-10700) RAM
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon 5770 1 GB DDR5 RAM
Sound Card
Realtech High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
32" Sony Bravia
Screen Resolution
1366 X 768
Hard Drives
Intel 25nm 120 GB Series 320 SSD HD Tune- 265 MBps Read/ 130 MBps Write

LaCie 1TB + 1TB RAID 0 eSATA Drive HD Tune- 160 MBps Read/ 90 MBps Write
Keyboard
Logitech Illuminated
Mouse
Logitech MX Revolution
Internet Speed
36.4 Mbps Maximum on a 37 Mbps Motorola SB501 Modem
Thank you both for your ideas. They both sound great.
 

My Computer My Computer

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
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I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
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LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
Look what I found.
REVIEW: Diskeeper 2010 Keeps Disk Defrags to a Minimum - Data Storage - News & Reviews - eWeek.com


Diskeeper, the company responsible for the disk defrag tool that ships along with Windows, is out to attack disk fragmentation by preventing it from occurring in the first place. Diskeeper 2010 ships with a new feature called IntelliWrite that works by intercepting disk writes and carrying them out with a focus on keeping files contiguous.

By keeping fragmentation to a minimum—the company claims that up 85 percent of fragmentation can be avoided—Diskeeper 2010 promises to cut power consumption, disk wear and redundant I/O operations. Cutting down on unnecessary I/O can be particularly beneficial when dealing with virtual machines situated on shared storage, or with systems running on solid-state drives, with their inherent write-cycle limitations.
 

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Home made Desktop
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Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
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Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
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I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
By keeping fragmentation to a minimum—the company claims that up 85 percent of fragmentation can be avoided—Diskeeper 2010 promises to cut power consumption, disk wear and redundant I/O operations. Cutting down on unnecessary I/O can be particularly beneficial.

Add the file placement optimization of My Defrag which literally places the most frequently used programs at the outside of the drive where they are the most accessible and it would really cut down on disc wear and speed things up...

~Maxx~

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HP HPE 270f
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Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
CPU
Intel Core i7 930 @ 2.8 Ghz Socket 1366 LGA
Motherboard
Pegatron Truckee v1.04E41
Memory
8 GB 1366 Mhz DDR3 (PC3-10700) RAM
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon 5770 1 GB DDR5 RAM
Sound Card
Realtech High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
32" Sony Bravia
Screen Resolution
1366 X 768
Hard Drives
Intel 25nm 120 GB Series 320 SSD HD Tune- 265 MBps Read/ 130 MBps Write

LaCie 1TB + 1TB RAID 0 eSATA Drive HD Tune- 160 MBps Read/ 90 MBps Write
Keyboard
Logitech Illuminated
Mouse
Logitech MX Revolution
Internet Speed
36.4 Mbps Maximum on a 37 Mbps Motorola SB501 Modem
I think your best to stick with Windows 7 defragmenter. The Windows 7 team did a good job of improving the defragmentation - and they know the ins and outs of Windows internals. Also it is VSS friendly and does a good job of avoiding causing the Volume Shadow copy from making duplicate copies of file data because it thinks the file has changed. Some of the defragmenters, like defraggler, are not "VSS aware" and can have side effects like eating volume shadow space resulting in loosing restore points.
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 4
OS
Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot
CPU
i7 4770k 4.4GHz (44-44-43-43 turbo) @ 1.248V
Motherboard
ASUS Maximus VI Hero
Memory
16GB (8GBx2) @2200 MHz G.skill Sniper 10-11-10-30-1, 1.6V
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G
Sound Card
Onboard SupremeFX Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB (OS), Samsung 2x 128GB 840 Pro SSD in RAID0, 3x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB RAID0, WD 2TB Black external USB 3.0, 2TB WD20EARS Green external USB 3.0, 2x 500GB Seagate and 1 750 GB external USB, 1x 350GB external USB3
PSU
Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model)
Case
Fractal Design Define R4
Cooling
NH-D14, NF-F12, NF-A15; NF-P14, NF-P12,NF-A14, S12A PWM
Keyboard
Cooler Master Storm Quickfire Rapid - Brown
Mouse
Logitech G602
Internet Speed
126.4 Mb/s down, 24.3 Mb/s up
Other Info
USB 3.0 x8 , SATA III x8, eSATA, USB 2.0 x6. Samsung DVD R/W drive.

WEI: CPU 7.8, Memory 7.9, Graphics 7.9, Disk 7.9
Geneo good choice. I started this trend a long time ago just to try to get information from other members and test some programs. As far as I know no one new anything about W7 defrag. I never intended it to be program A against B. I and many others have tried many programs and post back their thoughts. Billy and his boys won't let up with any information so we pittle. One shouldn't defrag over and over again just to test because it will eat your hard drive, so it takes a while to get input from members. I still use W7 built in but over a period of time try others. I have found out that Diskeeper has made the windows 7 built in defragger; (as per ENEWS). Was it built as per Billy and his boys or how Diskeeper wanted to; I don't know. With testing by many members over a period of time we just find out the baddest dog in the pound. Then what happened?? SSD. We can test programs without a battle. It's just a learning thing. My next system will have a Intel 510 SSD and I won't worry about it. I will still test on a HDD just for Bits and Grins and will post back on my thoughts.
 

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Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
I believe a previous version of windows defragger was based on Diskeeper. I don;t know if that is the case for Windows 7 though - I expect not.
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 4
OS
Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot
CPU
i7 4770k 4.4GHz (44-44-43-43 turbo) @ 1.248V
Motherboard
ASUS Maximus VI Hero
Memory
16GB (8GBx2) @2200 MHz G.skill Sniper 10-11-10-30-1, 1.6V
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G
Sound Card
Onboard SupremeFX Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB (OS), Samsung 2x 128GB 840 Pro SSD in RAID0, 3x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB RAID0, WD 2TB Black external USB 3.0, 2TB WD20EARS Green external USB 3.0, 2x 500GB Seagate and 1 750 GB external USB, 1x 350GB external USB3
PSU
Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model)
Case
Fractal Design Define R4
Cooling
NH-D14, NF-F12, NF-A15; NF-P14, NF-P12,NF-A14, S12A PWM
Keyboard
Cooler Master Storm Quickfire Rapid - Brown
Mouse
Logitech G602
Internet Speed
126.4 Mb/s down, 24.3 Mb/s up
Other Info
USB 3.0 x8 , SATA III x8, eSATA, USB 2.0 x6. Samsung DVD R/W drive.

WEI: CPU 7.8, Memory 7.9, Graphics 7.9, Disk 7.9

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
Bought it (diskeeper 2010), switched back to windows 7. Too much disk activity.
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 4
OS
Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot
CPU
i7 4770k 4.4GHz (44-44-43-43 turbo) @ 1.248V
Motherboard
ASUS Maximus VI Hero
Memory
16GB (8GBx2) @2200 MHz G.skill Sniper 10-11-10-30-1, 1.6V
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G
Sound Card
Onboard SupremeFX Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB (OS), Samsung 2x 128GB 840 Pro SSD in RAID0, 3x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB RAID0, WD 2TB Black external USB 3.0, 2TB WD20EARS Green external USB 3.0, 2x 500GB Seagate and 1 750 GB external USB, 1x 350GB external USB3
PSU
Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model)
Case
Fractal Design Define R4
Cooling
NH-D14, NF-F12, NF-A15; NF-P14, NF-P12,NF-A14, S12A PWM
Keyboard
Cooler Master Storm Quickfire Rapid - Brown
Mouse
Logitech G602
Internet Speed
126.4 Mb/s down, 24.3 Mb/s up
Other Info
USB 3.0 x8 , SATA III x8, eSATA, USB 2.0 x6. Samsung DVD R/W drive.

WEI: CPU 7.8, Memory 7.9, Graphics 7.9, Disk 7.9
GeneO you just answered my next question before I asked it. THANKS.
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
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