Solved Windows 7 reinstall to reset the re-arms! This legal?

[SquonkSC]

Anything anyone does under any circumstance is neither legal nor illegal until there is a complainant, petitioner or plaintiff and the due procees of law is applied. A court decides. Often, the cost of prosecution is weighed against a perceived loss when considering a remedy for that loss.

I am sincerely curious... can you provide me any examples of an individual prosecuted for using an "illegal" copy of Windows?

Nope.

 

[Tews]

That sounds like the old adage, "its only illegal if they catch ya".. pure sophistry ..

 

[Dinesh]

In my opinion, its legal.

 

[Mani]

Mani

You need to pay a little more attn to the ppl helping you. this is the third thread where it wans't settled to you satisfaction so you started getting a little testy. Thats not the way to continue getting help

Just a heads up no offense meant

\Ken

Third thread where it wasn't settled to my satisfaction? This thread has been settled to my satisfaction and so have all the others. I have only started 6 threads, and if you read them all, especially these:

http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/18723-windows-7-aero-peak-too-slow-help.html

and this:

http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/18265-windows-7-bootable-image.html

you will see other people saying how it has also helped them in amongst the posts.

Well I didn't know I was "getty testy". I have always thanked people who helped answer my questions and to others I'd like to think I've been polite. =)

Mani

 

[Mani]

In my opinion, its legal.

To get back on topic, I think Antman has cleared it up by quoting from the EULA saying it's not legal!

 

[SquonkSC]

Third thread where it wasn't settled to my satisfaction? This thread has been settled to my satisfaction and so have all the others. I have only started 6 threads, and if you read them all, especially these:

http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/18723-windows-7-aero-peak-too-slow-help.html

and this:

http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/18265-windows-7-bootable-image.html

you will see other people saying how it has also helped them in amongst the posts.

Well I didn't know I was "getty testy". I have always thanked people who helped answer my questions and to others I'd like to think I've been polite. =)

From what I read from you in this post, you did nothing wrong in my eyes.
And you did thank everyone.

Don't know where this hostility towards you comes from. :shock:

 

[Antman]

That sounds like the old adage, "its only illegal if they catch ya".. pure sophistry ..

Not at all. There is a difference between an actionable cause and a legal affect. Using software in violation of the EULA is an actionable cause. Without a complainant, there is no legal affect. Ex parte opinions notwithstanding.

 

[SquonkSC]

To get back on topic, I think Antman has cleared it up by quoting from the EULA saying it's not legal!

There is nothing in that screenshot mentioning re-arming, so it doesn't say it is illegal.

It speaks about activation.

Using it 30 days and rearm it 3 times is perfectly legal. It doesn't say if reinstalling after 120 days is illegal, but I just guess it is.

Now it has also been stated in this thread that having the RTM on your computer is illegal.

I highly doubt that.
The only difference between evaluating a original copy and rearming it, and this RTM we have almost all downloaded, is the way it came to us.



Lets not be hypocrites here.

If I got 5 bucks for every RTM running on computers of sevenforum users, I'd be a rich man.

 

[Tews]

Not at all. There is a difference between an actionable cause and a legal affect. Using software in violation of the EULA is an actionable cause. Without a complainant, there is no legal affect. Ex parte opinions notwithstanding.

Robbing a bank is an actionable cause, however the fact that I get away without being detected, resulting in no complaint, does not negate the fact that what I did was against the laws and mores of the society in which said bank was located ...

 

[Antman]

Robbing a bank is an actionable cause, however the fact that I get away without being detected, resulting in no complaint, does not negate the fact that what I did was against the laws and mores of the society in which said bank was located ...

Apples and oranges. Violation of a "EULA" is a civil matter governed under jurisdictional contract law. Bank robbery is a specific violation of the applicable criminal code.

Example: You contract a licensed plumber to install a toilet. Later, you determine that it leaks. You cannot have the plumber arrested. You can seek compensatory redress in a civil court. Let's say you win a judgement. The plumber fails to pay you within the alloted time. You file a Motion To Show Cause and the Court determines that the Respondent (plumber) has no qualifying cause. At that time, the Court can arrest the plumber, but only for contempt of court - under the rules of the criminal code.

From the "EULA":

These license terms are an agreement between Microsoft Corporation (or based on where you live, one of its affiliates) and you.

A contract.

 

[Antman]

There is nothing in that screenshot mentioning re-arming, so it doesn't say it is illegal...

Unless the software is activated, you have no right to use the software after the time permitted for activation.

The time permitted for activation includes any source provided mechanism - the re-arm in particular.

 

[poin2]

I have already purchased it using pre-order discount. I wanted to know if reinstalling for this purpose was legal, if it was then I would have cancelled the order.

You seem to be suggesting that I am trying to avoid paying using non-legal methods, which is not the case, try and read the thread title clearly next time.

I paid for XP, Vista and now Win7.

Well, they didn't set up the re-arms just so you could reinstall every 120 days and avoid purchasing things entirely if that's what you mean. You'd have to read their license to see what it says about even using the software beyond 30 days. The re-arms were more an "emergency" ability that got discovered, I believe.

Regardless, I will say that given the pre-orders were at $50 for Home Premium, the amount of time you'd lose unnecessarily reinstalling even once or twice isn't worth it in comparison.