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David H.
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Hi There all.
I have windows 7 home premium and with Microsoft office 2010 paid for version
Thought that I would do a bit of googeling regarding passwords etc.And came across that there is a password method built into the Microsoft office.
So went and looked into it and did a password for a word document,Now my question according to Microsoft its a very secure setup encryption,Can anyone give any thoughts on this Please.:cool:
Many Thanks.
 

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Home Build windows 7 Home premium.Built by a local computer shop.
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Summary Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II X2 250 23 °C
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AMD Athlon II X2 250
Motherboard
Manufacturer BIOSTAR Group Model N61PB-M2S (Socket AM2 )
Memory
Total memory slots 4 Used memory slots 2 Free memory slots 2
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Name Generic Non-PnP Monitor on NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce
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Realtek High Definition Audio Playback Devices Realtek Dig
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer
Hard Drives
Main C drive is now a 120GB SSD With only operating system and programs.
Second HDD 1TB with all documents etc.
Keyboard
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Karsersky
Browser
Google
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Operating System
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
AMD Athlon II X2 250 23 °C
Regor 45nm Technology
RAM
4.00GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 401MHz (6-6-6-18)
Motherboard
BIOSTAR Group N61PB-M2S (Socket AM2 ) 40 °C
Graphics
Generic Non-PnP Monitor (1024x768@60Hz)
128MB NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (Biostar Microtech Int'l)
Storage
1863GB West
The only thing I can think of is don't loose the password.
Write it down and keep it in a safe place.
 

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Home made Desktop
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Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
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Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
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ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
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Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
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INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
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EVGA Platium 1200W
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Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
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XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
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Das 4 Professional
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Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
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Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
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I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
The level of security depends largely on the complexity of your passwords. I use password protection on several Office files and use a combination of letters, numbers, special characters, and upper-lowercase that mean nothing to anyone except me. I also have an encrypted file that I keep securely locked up where I can retrieve all my passwords, if I need to.

You might stumble across utilities on the Internet that claim to be able to "recover" passwords from encrypted files. That implies that they can somehow "extract" the password from the files -- which, fortunately, they can NOT do. Instead, all they attempt to do is guess the password, and if you look at their examples, they're always something simple (and stupid!) like "abc". Anything more reasonably complex, it going to require a brute-force attack, and is going to take months, years, decades (and more) to crack. And, don't believe the entertainment industry that shows passwords being cracked one character at a time -- that's totally bogus.
 

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Custom
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Win7 Pro 32-bit, Win8 Pro 32-bit
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AMD Phenom II X6 1090T
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Gigabyte
Memory
4GB ddr3 1300
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AMD HD 4290 onboard
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Builtin Realtek HD Audio
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Samsung 24" widescreen, LG 23" widescreen
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1920x1200/1920x1080
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Kingston 256GB SSD
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Logitech Illuminated Keyboard
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Logitech M705 wireless mouse
Antivirus
Norton Av 2013
Browser
IE v10
Mark.Thanks for that very interesting info you gave,May I ask you for some advice on a password software that can password a folder in my documents not just a single file.
Been looking at the WIN RAR software but some info says its not very good.
Any help there Please.
Many thanks.
 

My Computer

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Build windows 7 Home premium.Built by a local computer shop.
OS
Summary Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II X2 250 23 °C
CPU
AMD Athlon II X2 250
Motherboard
Manufacturer BIOSTAR Group Model N61PB-M2S (Socket AM2 )
Memory
Total memory slots 4 Used memory slots 2 Free memory slots 2
Graphics Card(s)
Name Generic Non-PnP Monitor on NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio Playback Devices Realtek Dig
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer
Hard Drives
Main C drive is now a 120GB SSD With only operating system and programs.
Second HDD 1TB with all documents etc.
Keyboard
HID Keyboard Device Device Kind Keyboard Device Name HID K
Antivirus
Karsersky
Browser
Google
Other Info
Summary
Operating System
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
AMD Athlon II X2 250 23 °C
Regor 45nm Technology
RAM
4.00GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 401MHz (6-6-6-18)
Motherboard
BIOSTAR Group N61PB-M2S (Socket AM2 ) 40 °C
Graphics
Generic Non-PnP Monitor (1024x768@60Hz)
128MB NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (Biostar Microtech Int'l)
Storage
1863GB West
Well I guess my first post wasn't long enough.

Many people come here because they have not done what I and Mark have stated.
They didn't save their passwords in a safe place that is not on their computer. Loosing passwords is the number one complaint people have when posting here about encryption problems.
The odds of getting into a password protected file,folder, or drive are slim to none without a password.
Have a nice day.
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
Thank You both.
Got it all now.:cool:
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Build windows 7 Home premium.Built by a local computer shop.
OS
Summary Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II X2 250 23 °C
CPU
AMD Athlon II X2 250
Motherboard
Manufacturer BIOSTAR Group Model N61PB-M2S (Socket AM2 )
Memory
Total memory slots 4 Used memory slots 2 Free memory slots 2
Graphics Card(s)
Name Generic Non-PnP Monitor on NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio Playback Devices Realtek Dig
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer
Hard Drives
Main C drive is now a 120GB SSD With only operating system and programs.
Second HDD 1TB with all documents etc.
Keyboard
HID Keyboard Device Device Kind Keyboard Device Name HID K
Antivirus
Karsersky
Browser
Google
Other Info
Summary
Operating System
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
AMD Athlon II X2 250 23 °C
Regor 45nm Technology
RAM
4.00GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 401MHz (6-6-6-18)
Motherboard
BIOSTAR Group N61PB-M2S (Socket AM2 ) 40 °C
Graphics
Generic Non-PnP Monitor (1024x768@60Hz)
128MB NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (Biostar Microtech Int'l)
Storage
1863GB West
There are password recovery tools that can crack more or less anything made by Office by harnessing the GPU's massive power (and up to 8 GPUs working together), but they cost money (a lot).
Free programs to do it suck at best but they aren't any indication of what a pro can do.
Yeah, Office passwords don't use serious algorithms, who was expecting that?

Anyway, I would NOT and i repeat NOT trust Office to lockdown something. I had too much issues with it to trust that in the next version it will open my stuff again, let alone password-protected stuff.

If you want your stuff to be really safe, get something that can encrypt the files with AES-256 encryption. 7zip can do it and is free, as is Truecrypt (it can also encrypt your whole drive but it is overkill imho)
Then if you have a strong password your stuff is safe.
But if you lose it then you are in serious trouble. Here are brute-force decryption times.
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom built
OS
Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601
CPU
AMD Phenom 9650 QuadCore, revision DR-B3
Motherboard
ASUS M4A78
Memory
5 GB yes I run 2x 2GB and 1x 1GB, different brand, spank me.
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT 512 Mb, unknown manufacturer.
Sound Card
Crappy Realtek Integrated Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks!
Hard Drives
(1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD
PSU
whatever, around 450w
Case
Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old
Cooling
CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy
Keyboard
Microsoft, PS/2, white.
Mouse
Optical, logitec.
Internet Speed
effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up
Antivirus
Avira, free edition.
Browser
Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome :P
Other Info
Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
Was running Win Xp from a IDE drive. Yeah. Was a pain.
SATA II drive and Win7 and it zips away! Yay!
bob,
Any good tips on using 7-ZIP
Thank You.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Build windows 7 Home premium.Built by a local computer shop.
OS
Summary Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II X2 250 23 °C
CPU
AMD Athlon II X2 250
Motherboard
Manufacturer BIOSTAR Group Model N61PB-M2S (Socket AM2 )
Memory
Total memory slots 4 Used memory slots 2 Free memory slots 2
Graphics Card(s)
Name Generic Non-PnP Monitor on NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio Playback Devices Realtek Dig
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer
Hard Drives
Main C drive is now a 120GB SSD With only operating system and programs.
Second HDD 1TB with all documents etc.
Keyboard
HID Keyboard Device Device Kind Keyboard Device Name HID K
Antivirus
Karsersky
Browser
Google
Other Info
Summary
Operating System
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
AMD Athlon II X2 250 23 °C
Regor 45nm Technology
RAM
4.00GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 401MHz (6-6-6-18)
Motherboard
BIOSTAR Group N61PB-M2S (Socket AM2 ) 40 °C
Graphics
Generic Non-PnP Monitor (1024x768@60Hz)
128MB NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (Biostar Microtech Int'l)
Storage
1863GB West
Sure, read this. Goes a bit over the top in the Warning section about wiping the hard drive (wiping free space, CCleaner can do it, and once or twice is enough, if you are on a SSD or on a flash-based memory or a RAM disk it's not needed), but the rest is perfect.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom built
OS
Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601
CPU
AMD Phenom 9650 QuadCore, revision DR-B3
Motherboard
ASUS M4A78
Memory
5 GB yes I run 2x 2GB and 1x 1GB, different brand, spank me.
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT 512 Mb, unknown manufacturer.
Sound Card
Crappy Realtek Integrated Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks!
Hard Drives
(1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD
PSU
whatever, around 450w
Case
Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old
Cooling
CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy
Keyboard
Microsoft, PS/2, white.
Mouse
Optical, logitec.
Internet Speed
effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up
Antivirus
Avira, free edition.
Browser
Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome :P
Other Info
Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
Was running Win Xp from a IDE drive. Yeah. Was a pain.
SATA II drive and Win7 and it zips away! Yay!
Thankyou
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Build windows 7 Home premium.Built by a local computer shop.
OS
Summary Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II X2 250 23 °C
CPU
AMD Athlon II X2 250
Motherboard
Manufacturer BIOSTAR Group Model N61PB-M2S (Socket AM2 )
Memory
Total memory slots 4 Used memory slots 2 Free memory slots 2
Graphics Card(s)
Name Generic Non-PnP Monitor on NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio Playback Devices Realtek Dig
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer
Hard Drives
Main C drive is now a 120GB SSD With only operating system and programs.
Second HDD 1TB with all documents etc.
Keyboard
HID Keyboard Device Device Kind Keyboard Device Name HID K
Antivirus
Karsersky
Browser
Google
Other Info
Summary
Operating System
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
AMD Athlon II X2 250 23 °C
Regor 45nm Technology
RAM
4.00GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 401MHz (6-6-6-18)
Motherboard
BIOSTAR Group N61PB-M2S (Socket AM2 ) 40 °C
Graphics
Generic Non-PnP Monitor (1024x768@60Hz)
128MB NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (Biostar Microtech Int'l)
Storage
1863GB West
Try SIW it gives some passwords SIW | System Information for Windows by Gabriel Topala

If really desperate for retrieving data try a Ubuntu boot and view the drive data from it

Download Ubuntu | Ubuntu create a bootable disk and use the TRY version NOT the install

When open the drives can be seen and opened although some docs will not open then it is just copy / paste to a stick if you so wish.

Anyway have a look at the previews in that site ref first.

Don't forget to set the BIOS to boot from optical first.
 

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Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
OS
Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
Thanks for that.I haven't lost or forgot a password.
My aim is to password protect a specific folder in my documents.
Maybe I didn't make myself clear in my first posting.

Many Thanks for the input have bookmarked your item for the future

Thank You
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Build windows 7 Home premium.Built by a local computer shop.
OS
Summary Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II X2 250 23 °C
CPU
AMD Athlon II X2 250
Motherboard
Manufacturer BIOSTAR Group Model N61PB-M2S (Socket AM2 )
Memory
Total memory slots 4 Used memory slots 2 Free memory slots 2
Graphics Card(s)
Name Generic Non-PnP Monitor on NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio Playback Devices Realtek Dig
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer
Hard Drives
Main C drive is now a 120GB SSD With only operating system and programs.
Second HDD 1TB with all documents etc.
Keyboard
HID Keyboard Device Device Kind Keyboard Device Name HID K
Antivirus
Karsersky
Browser
Google
Other Info
Summary
Operating System
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
AMD Athlon II X2 250 23 °C
Regor 45nm Technology
RAM
4.00GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 401MHz (6-6-6-18)
Motherboard
BIOSTAR Group N61PB-M2S (Socket AM2 ) 40 °C
Graphics
Generic Non-PnP Monitor (1024x768@60Hz)
128MB NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (Biostar Microtech Int'l)
Storage
1863GB West
Thanks for that.I haven't lost or forgot a password.
My aim is to password protect a specific folder in my documents.
Maybe I didn't make myself clear in my first posting.

Many Thanks for the input have bookmarked your item for the future

Thank You
Oops sorry thought you had lost one / some.

The Ubuntu too is useful for when Windows crashes totally at least you an get online (FireFox - Google) for drivers etc by just booting and using TRY until you have got what you need.:)
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
OS
Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
ICit2lol.

Thanks for the PM :zip:
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Build windows 7 Home premium.Built by a local computer shop.
OS
Summary Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II X2 250 23 °C
CPU
AMD Athlon II X2 250
Motherboard
Manufacturer BIOSTAR Group Model N61PB-M2S (Socket AM2 )
Memory
Total memory slots 4 Used memory slots 2 Free memory slots 2
Graphics Card(s)
Name Generic Non-PnP Monitor on NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio Playback Devices Realtek Dig
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer
Hard Drives
Main C drive is now a 120GB SSD With only operating system and programs.
Second HDD 1TB with all documents etc.
Keyboard
HID Keyboard Device Device Kind Keyboard Device Name HID K
Antivirus
Karsersky
Browser
Google
Other Info
Summary
Operating System
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
AMD Athlon II X2 250 23 °C
Regor 45nm Technology
RAM
4.00GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 401MHz (6-6-6-18)
Motherboard
BIOSTAR Group N61PB-M2S (Socket AM2 ) 40 °C
Graphics
Generic Non-PnP Monitor (1024x768@60Hz)
128MB NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (Biostar Microtech Int'l)
Storage
1863GB West
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