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I created a sytem image on a 120gig externel hard drive which represents a clean install of windows with mse and updates only installed.Now i have added all my regular programs to my pc id like to create a second FULL image on the same drive however ive heard horror stories that windows will over write my first image every time i do this just adding small increments for changes to the pc.
Now ive read that if i change the name of the folder from windowsimagebackup a FULL new image would be created but the first image would not be found in WINre unless i name it back.Can anyone verify this and if i had 2 files named windowsimage backup would WINre find both of them.
Thankyou in advance danny
 

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That is actually the exact thing I do to install windows, I have a disk image of a windows clean install. So it only takes about 5 minutes to reinstall windows when there is need to.

Why don't you try Acronis True Image? It lets you do exactly what you want, it is very user friendly and you can save all individual images as files, so you can store them in the same hard drive, and even folder.

And, on your question, I don't have eny expierience with Winre, but common sense tells me the same thing you thought, changing the name would mean that a new image will be made and that the other won't be found, but you can change the name anytime, as long as you can connect the drive to another computer.

Why don't you try it? if in doubt, save a copy of the clean install image on the internal hard drive, you are just checking what image will winre find/update, not actually doing it.

Optionally, you can partition the external hard drive and save different images on different partitions.

Hope this helps!
 

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Make it easy on yourself and install a third party tool like Macrium reflect free. You can then image with that and each image just has a filename like vanilla_install.img and after activation_and_windows_update_Aug2010.img etc. Then you can create as many images as you need.

Based on what you have now, you could use the built-in tool to get back to plain vanilla or Macrium Reflect to get back to something that you image now.
 

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There's nothing to worry about using Win 7's built in image restore, and it's a heck of a lot easier than dealing with buggy 3rd party apps like Acronis (which still has issues with Win 7 64 apparently). And you certainly don't need another computer to take advantage of the built in imaging functionality.

That being said, I agree that Win 7's functionality could be a little more user friendly. But it has never let me down.

To your question, simply rename your "fresh" windowsimagebackup folder to something else. I use "windowsimagebackup_2010-0816" b/c I like date stamps. The next time you create an image, it will not overwrite the one with a new name. You can do this for how many images you want, your only contraint will be disk space.

When you need to restore, it does get a little tricky but it's actually quite easy. When you load system image recovery console from your repair disk or Win 7 install disk, it won't find the images that have been renamed. Click through the process until you have the ability to "Install Drivers." At this point, a typical Windows 'load document' window will open, and you can easily navigate to all of your folders and drives. Navigate to the image you want to restore, and right click to rename back to the standard "windowsimagebackup". Exit out of the process (because you are not actually installing drivers) and you should be back at the system image recovery menu. Click on system image restore and it will find your image.
 

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Thanks for the detailed info Grinch!
 

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Nice trick to get at renamed images - one to keep up your sleeve!
 

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Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.
Thanx guys great advise as always
I renamed my origional image with a time stamp as advised and re-imaged.As expected it didnt show in WINre only the second image was available.Out of curiosity i installed afew more programs and re-imaged again changing all the file names to a date stamp format.Ientered WINre again and it found no images but pressing install drivers enabled me to browse through folders and i could find all three images no problem and just re named the one i wanated.Does exactly what i wanted and no need for 3rd party sorftware.SUPER
Thanks for all the advise
 

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Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
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intel(R)core(TM)2 duo CPU T6600 @ 2.20GHz
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intel gm45/gm47 revision 07
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3 gb ddr3
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ati radeon hd4570/512mb
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OCZ-Agility3 60gig ssd
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500gig external hdd
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Optical
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danny, glad it worked out :)
 

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There's nothing to worry about using Win 7's built in image restore, and it's a heck of a lot easier than dealing with buggy 3rd party apps like Acronis (which still has issues with Win 7 64 apparently).
I use Acronis True Image Home 2010 on my Win7 64-bit Ultimate machine at home and it's always worked well for me. The Try and Decide feature was worth the $23.99 that I paid for it. I use Macrium on a few test boxes at work and EaseUsToDo on some lab boxes running server based OS's since it works with those products.
 

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Thanx guys great advise as always
I renamed my origional image with a time stamp as advised and re-imaged.As expected it didnt show in WINre only the second image was available.Out of curiosity i installed afew more programs and re-imaged again changing all the file names to a date stamp format.Ientered WINre again and it found no images but pressing install drivers enabled me to browse through folders and i could find all three images no problem and just re named the one i wanated.Does exactly what i wanted and no need for 3rd party sorftware.SUPER
Thanks for all the advise

Glad that we could have been of assistance.
 

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MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
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AMD A10-4600M
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AMD Pumori (Socket FT1)
Memory
6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28)
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 7660G
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz)
Screen Resolution
1600x900@60Hz
Hard Drives
SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device
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Standard PS/2 Keyboard
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HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410
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What the local pub, local coffee shop offers.
Other Info
Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device


Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.
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