So it happened to me just earlier.
I just built a new PC, installed W7 Home Premium 64Bit and I've downloaded and installed all the updates and everything's working fine, until the last three updates that the computer installed just earlier.
Turned my PC back on, and just like the thread Title says, it got to 100% Complete and just hung there.
I let it run...
And run...
and run..
and run..
For well over 15 minutes.
Eventually got fed up with it and hard-powered it off (because neither CAD nor the case's power switch would work) and turned it back on, knowing it was a 50/50 chance that something would screw up. What choice did I have? It appeared to be locked entirely and I really don't feel like waiting hours for it to unstick itself.
Thankfully nothing bad appeared to have happened, it seems to be running fine, other than that black "Windows was not shut down properly" screen.
But this leads me to my rant....
WHY oh WHY does Windows Update have to suck so much? Microsoft has the industry standard, the most popular OS on the entire planet, and they somehow fail to do what Linux can do. See, I've run Linux before in the past; I had a laptop with Debian....I think it was Debian? back during the latter days of WindowsXP.
I was amazed at how superior it was functionality-wise than Windows Updating is. With Linux, you tell the computer to update, it tells you exactly what it is downloading, and installing, item-by-item, it tells you the exact filesize, and the exact item the computer is currently working on, and the whole process is painless, and it's over in less than 3-4 minutes. Sometimes 30 seconds or less if I ran the update once per week.
I left the laptop go for over a month, and it was still less than 5 minutes. Oh, and it never needed restarting, either. It was able to update everything without restarts except twice (and both of those times was because it was a kernel update, and even then the computer told me that it "should" be restarted "soon" to avoid problems).
Compare that to Windows Update that can take 10+ minutes for one single update, it doesn't tell you anything whatsoever as to what it is actually doing, it gives you no clue whether or not something hung, does not give you much choice in what exactly you update (it kinda-sorta does, but you have to manually scan for updates and that takes simply forever), and when you update, you get this blank screen with some vague text and a little spinny circle and you have no idea if it hung, if it is doing anything, or what. There's no feedback to the user whatsoever.
I get that Windows is supposed to be for users who don't want to get too technical with their computer, but yet they should add an optional mode where you can see this information, so that if it hangs, you've got at least somewhat of a clue as to why it hung, or at least what step it hung on and/or if it's safe to hard reset to get out of it.
And that's another thing Linux never did; Linux never locked the entire UI behind the update process. You always had access to your UI at all times, never did the computer disable mouse and keyboard input with a static screen that if it hangs, you are entirely locked out of your computer.
If Linux, a collection of programmers can accomplish something like this.... why can't the largest OS developer in the world achieve similar?
Sorry about the rant, but I miss the older days when Windows wasn't so frustrating to work with, back before they shoved privacy-breaching software down your throat whether you wanted it or not (which is why I refuse to go to Windows10) and before they kept removing choice and transparency from the user.
I just built a new PC, installed W7 Home Premium 64Bit and I've downloaded and installed all the updates and everything's working fine, until the last three updates that the computer installed just earlier.
Turned my PC back on, and just like the thread Title says, it got to 100% Complete and just hung there.
I let it run...
And run...
and run..
and run..
For well over 15 minutes.
Eventually got fed up with it and hard-powered it off (because neither CAD nor the case's power switch would work) and turned it back on, knowing it was a 50/50 chance that something would screw up. What choice did I have? It appeared to be locked entirely and I really don't feel like waiting hours for it to unstick itself.
Thankfully nothing bad appeared to have happened, it seems to be running fine, other than that black "Windows was not shut down properly" screen.
But this leads me to my rant....
WHY oh WHY does Windows Update have to suck so much? Microsoft has the industry standard, the most popular OS on the entire planet, and they somehow fail to do what Linux can do. See, I've run Linux before in the past; I had a laptop with Debian....I think it was Debian? back during the latter days of WindowsXP.
I was amazed at how superior it was functionality-wise than Windows Updating is. With Linux, you tell the computer to update, it tells you exactly what it is downloading, and installing, item-by-item, it tells you the exact filesize, and the exact item the computer is currently working on, and the whole process is painless, and it's over in less than 3-4 minutes. Sometimes 30 seconds or less if I ran the update once per week.
I left the laptop go for over a month, and it was still less than 5 minutes. Oh, and it never needed restarting, either. It was able to update everything without restarts except twice (and both of those times was because it was a kernel update, and even then the computer told me that it "should" be restarted "soon" to avoid problems).
Compare that to Windows Update that can take 10+ minutes for one single update, it doesn't tell you anything whatsoever as to what it is actually doing, it gives you no clue whether or not something hung, does not give you much choice in what exactly you update (it kinda-sorta does, but you have to manually scan for updates and that takes simply forever), and when you update, you get this blank screen with some vague text and a little spinny circle and you have no idea if it hung, if it is doing anything, or what. There's no feedback to the user whatsoever.
I get that Windows is supposed to be for users who don't want to get too technical with their computer, but yet they should add an optional mode where you can see this information, so that if it hangs, you've got at least somewhat of a clue as to why it hung, or at least what step it hung on and/or if it's safe to hard reset to get out of it.
And that's another thing Linux never did; Linux never locked the entire UI behind the update process. You always had access to your UI at all times, never did the computer disable mouse and keyboard input with a static screen that if it hangs, you are entirely locked out of your computer.
If Linux, a collection of programmers can accomplish something like this.... why can't the largest OS developer in the world achieve similar?
Sorry about the rant, but I miss the older days when Windows wasn't so frustrating to work with, back before they shoved privacy-breaching software down your throat whether you wanted it or not (which is why I refuse to go to Windows10) and before they kept removing choice and transparency from the user.
My Computer
- Computer type
- PC/Desktop
- Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
- Custom
- OS
- Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
- CPU
- Ryzen5 1500X
- Motherboard
- ASUS AB350 Gaming 3
- Memory
- 2400 16GB
- Graphics Card(s)
- 1050 Ti
- Hard Drives
- WD 1TB
- Antivirus
- MSE
- Browser
- Firefox
