Windows Mail


  1. Posts : 35
    windows 7 home premium 64 bit
       #1800

    Not sure if in right place for this question on final part of WinMail backup/restore procedure outlined in beginning...
    I have done the whole process, and now to the point of:" If your backup was made from a time that WinMail was working! ..and you are deleting/replacing your message store folder that is default located @
    %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\
    You then DELETE the current broken 'Windows Mail' whole folder at that same location, and you copy your backup 'working one' to the Exact same path place you just deleted your broken one.
    Then if you had separately made a (backup) export of the registry folder key mentioned in my write up:
    "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail"
    ..from the same working OS source, and you merge that in - You Will Succeed"
    Question is, having found the message store on my new, never opened yet, Win Mail, and ready to import my copy of the working message store from old computer, I see the delete option there for message store, and understand that I must import my message store from my back up, but exactly how do I do that? Once I hit 'delete' of old message store, how do I get the zipped copy there? I apologize in advance for being so dense!
    Also, help on process of 'merging my saved registry export of HKCU' please.
    I feel as if I got thru the 'hard' parts, and stuck on what must be simple...
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  2. Posts : 313
    Vista/Win7/8/10/11 (x86/x64)
    Thread Starter
       #1801

    Hello terri13,

    I see you are quoting an old post of mine here in this the Seven Forums in which I was replying to another member whosit42 about portions of the Win8/10 tutorial ..hmmm, which I see they have deleted their posts a while ago and so I just removed my replies to him since it's out of context now; besides all questions for Win8/10 WinMail belong over there please, at the link given below.

    If your question is about moving your Win7 WinMail setup over to Win8/10, which btw, the quoted partial instructions within your post is only a small piece of the WinMail Backup & Restore Procedure - The Full instructions on how to do that, is all Completely Explained in great detail within that WinMail tutorial there, so please go over and re-read it all in its proper context, at this link below:

    How to reinstate WinMail onto Windows 8 or Windows 10


    I'm unsure of your other questions wording, but all instructions are already given in that tutorial; but for these Q&A:

    terri13 said:
    ...how do I get the zipped copy there?
    ..the answer as it says there, is Copy/Paste, and then Extract Here.. being careful not to nest folders, etc, x10



    Also, help on process of 'merging my saved registry export of HKCU' please.
    double-click the reg file and click Yes to merge, or, right-click on the reg file, and select Merge.



    I say this with Total and Complete Respect and I mean that, the Tutorial over at the Eight Forums for WinMail on Win8/10 should only be attempted by those who have a fairly good understanding with computer software, and already understand the basics of your questions about zip files extract, copy/paste, or merge registry files, etc...
    The process for those to maintain WinMail on Win10 is more complex compared to Win7 here which is pretty easy since it mostly always stays working. However WinMail on Win10 requires much more attention, and good computer skills is a must. Also it's to know with using WinMail on Win10 that every time you update/upgrade it, WinMail gets depreciated, which then requires the procedures to be done again each time to fix it - now for experienced computer users it's very easy to do and is only a few minute process to reinstate WinMail each time; otherwise for less tech savvy users may find it too much effort; if so, then they should move on to a more supported email client please.

    PM me if you need more clarification.
    If I was your neighbor, truly, I would visit and do it for you.
    Sincerely,




    .
    Last edited by endeavor; 10 Feb 2020 at 12:46. Reason: wording
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  3. Posts : 49
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64
       #1802

    Hi All,
    It has been a very long time since I have been here.
    A friend of mine is having a problem with not being able to delete or move messages from his Inbox. Sometimes it works other times he gets an error message.

    1. Is there another way to delete all from Inbox?

    2. Can I run the tutorial batch file again right over the existing installation?

    Thanks

    Don
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  4. Posts : 313
    Vista/Win7/8/10/11 (x86/x64)
    Thread Starter
       #1803

    Hello Donz,

    2. Can I run the tutorial batch file again right over the existing installation?
    Yes, if you are using the same file attachments (WinMailEdit.reg +..dll) given here and instructions in this threads post 1 tutorial, you can run the bat file and the whole process as many times as you'd like without it affecting any of your settings since appropriately they do not contain any HKCU settings, nor should they; the only time we save/restore those are during a Backup/Restore procedure that I've posted about.


    However, in the case of your friend, re-running the tutorial again will most likely not solve his stuck messages problem.


    Better if you would show a screenshot of that error though.


    1. Is there another way to delete all from Inbox?
    By far, the best way to resolve any of these stuck message problems though, is to do a Restore of the Backup/Restore procedures with your latest saved backup. You can find those instructions as pointed out in the page 1 tutorial at the end of the bullet points it says and I copy/paste quote it:

    • Lastly, but should be the First thing you do, is to Create A WinMail Backup (new version) ..Go to this next link and when you get there scroll down to the heading: Backup/Restore Procedures for further instructions.



    If you do not have a backup as explained
    ..then another possible way, is on that same Errata page of explanations, scroll down to where it says:
    *Note: 3-2018

    You will see a program called WMUtil (by Steve Cochran) mentioned, and it's attached at the bottom of that page. Download it, and in it you will find his program, familiarize yourself with it, read the screenshot I give of his website and utility explanations, and just maybe, using it (Repair Database button) will solve the problem of your stuck messages.

    ..good luck
    Last edited by endeavor; 17 Oct 2020 at 09:44.
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  5. Posts : 49
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64
       #1804

    endeavor,

    Thanks for the quick reply.

    Don
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  6. Posts : 313
    Vista/Win7/8/10/11 (x86/x64)
    Thread Starter
       #1805

    I noticed you had also sent me a PM while I was actually typing my above reply and had not seen it yet, and in it you give me a little more information. You also said:

    His Inbox has about 17,000 messages
    WinMail is known to have a problem on many levels with too many emails, opening more slowly, etc, and having that very problem, but also most importantly making it unstable and ripe for message store corruption possibly losing it all. I talk about this limit issue somewhere in these threads here in more detail, or is it on the EightForums WinMail tutorial, I've forgotten now.

    He needs to clean out what he does not need, keeping a more realistic amount of emails, before proceeding.
    He can even create a Backup of the old, and save it, making new ones, and reinstating others when necessary if/when needed.
    I keep numerous versions of message store backups myself for this very (and other) reasons)
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  7. Posts : 57
    Windows 7
       #1806

    I don't know if I'm in the right place, either. I have Winmail working in Windows 7 and got Vista's Calendar working. However, when I ran the caledit file to execute the reg file so it would cause winmail to be able to execute the Calendar from the icon in Winmail's tool bar, nothing happens. I can execute the Calendar from its own program file, but somehow the Caledit file doesn't seem to have entered the right file in the right place in the registration file to let Calendar work from WinMail. Anyone have any ideas how to fix Winmail so that will happen?
    I don't know if anyone will even find this but thought I'd give it a go.
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  8. Posts : 313
    Vista/Win7/8/10/11 (x86/x64)
    Thread Starter
       #1807

    RKelly5327 said:
    I don't know if I'm in the right place

    Actually please it would be best to post this question in the actual Calendar thread there.

    I think the answer for you though will be the same as I replied to krutzy at the end of that Calendar thread under his post: Here

    If you need to reply to this, or have any more questions about 'Calendar' please post it there, thank you!
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  9. Posts : 27
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
       #1808

    Font Color Glitch For Recipient in Windows Mail


    I began this in Browsers & Mail because I felt my problem could be more universal than just in Windows Mail, but have not gotten any replies yet. Maybe there is no solution, but I'll give it another go.

    I love that I've been able to keep Windows Mail on my Windows 7 Home 64 for many years. I have no use for programs like Outlook. I don't need all the bells and whistles. Programs like Thunderbird made me crazy. I just need the simple old Outlook Express that I started with years ago and the ability to have my two email accounts go into a single Inbox. I have no need to save "conversations", etc.

    A strange problem has developed between myself and an email friend in the UK. She has a Gmail account that she uses through Microsoft Office Outlook 12. I'm using Windows Mail (from SevenForums) and my web mail server is through my internet cable company. (Time Warner/Charter). I do have Office 2003 Word and Excel on my computer. In the last few years, she will tell me that sometimes my emails reach her with red text in some of my email. I have read that changes in the font colors have happened, but nobody has figured out definitely why. Some of the posts I've read attribute the fault to Gmail. Others just don't know.

    Through trial and error, I have made a few observations which I will note here. My friend is even less computer savvy than I am, so basically anything I've found is all on my end and getting her to confirm that the same or something different is happening on her end is impossible. I'm pretty sure I am making her eyes glaze over when I ask her to check on something on her end. So....

    In no particular order:

    On my end in Windows Mail, I am not seeing any other font color except black, but she's seeing parts of my text in red. I pasted her replies to me in Word when she'd reply back with my original message that she was seeing in red. Colors did change for me in Word. But on my end, I'm not seeing red, I'm seeing a yellow font. Which coincidentally is the color selected by default in Word for highlighting text.

    When I looked at the font settings in Windows Mail, sometimes the example of the font would show yellow even though I had selected black. Sometimes I could get it changed to back to black but it would only work for awhile. She'd tell me she was seeing red again; so I'd check the settings and they would be reverted back to yellow in spite of it being set on black.

    I think that there might be a connection between pasting web content into the email if Word is also installed. (Again only guessing because of the yellow highlight color in my Word 2003.) I was able to determine that some of the latest text she was complaining about was text I'd pasted from web articles into my email drafts. Occasionally the yellow would drift into my real time typing which probably happened as I was editing around the copied newspaper text and strayed into the yellow range of the format.

    I did figure out a way to make a new Word document with no formatting other than black text and I changed the yellow highlight color to none. I thought that if I could make it the default Word Document Template that would fix the problem with her emails. But it didn't.

    I also tried replacing Microsoft Office 2003 with newer versions and/or no Office program of any kind or brand. That didn't work either.

    I'll stop now. I'm sure I've messed around with this more than you care to listen to. But these are the major points, I think. I'm hoping this might strike a cord with somebody and they'd know exactly what I'm talking about and would know where to point me for a fix.

    Thanks in advance for taking the time to read through my sad story.

    P.S.
    In the meantime I've been using OE Classic and there have been no problems. OE Classic will be okay as an alternative, but I'd still rather use Windows Mail if it's possible.
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  10. Posts : 313
    Vista/Win7/8/10/11 (x86/x64)
    Thread Starter
       #1809

    The first thing I would say to stop all these discrepancies, is to go into Options and set your WinMail client to Send, and then Read, all emails in Plain Text - done! ...you won't have anymore of those problems!
    Also be sure to select Not to reply to messages in the format it was received in, IF, it's appropriate for your use.
    Also, you can change the email you're composing in to Plain text on the fly after you type it - see last screenshot

    I've attached three screenshots for you to see how to make those settings changes.

    If one insists on using HTML however, then you have to understand all the variances about it, especially when you copy/paste information or wording out of other webpages, etc, into WinMail, because when set on HTML and you paste into it, it will pick up all the various formats, and when mixing that with regular typing can be a mess for those that are not familiar.
    Also when sending via gmail, yahoo, etc.. they are adopting new standards that might affect those using WinMail, especially Attachments! ..that's a whole other story in itself.

    If you and your friend were both using the same email client with the same settings, you would be fine.
    ..
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Windows Mail-readplaintext.jpg   Windows Mail-sendplaintext.jpg   Windows Mail-plaintextonfly.jpg  
    Last edited by endeavor; 06 Mar 2021 at 15:12.
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