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  1. mjf
    Posts : 5,969
    Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
       #430

    jdac said:
    I want a second hard drive with the same thing that I leave disconnected and only connect in event of failure. The idea is to just update this backup drive when needed since most important data is saved to another backed up network hard drive...
    I do the following which for me is the fastest way of getting up and running after a full HDD failure. It cost me $55, the price of a Seagate 1TB Barracuda.

    Made a Windows image of my system with all key software installed and stable.
    Reimaged to the brand new HDD (no prep work). It booted immediately and tested fine.
    I keep one for each of my PCs as a cold standby. ie. unplugged.

    In case of HDD failure I'm up and running in the time it takes to connect power & sata connectors.
    Reimage when time permits to the most recent image ~ 20 min.

    If you don't like Windows Imaging you could use free Macrium Reflect but I actually think it takes a little more effort. As far as cloning is concerned - why bother.
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  2. Posts : 1,939
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Steve Ballmer Signature Edition
       #431

    Hi Brink & All!

    In the Intro you state:
    "On internal and external hard drives, older system images will be deleted when the drive runs out of space"

    I have been trying to find a rule regarding the retention scheme... do you (or anyone here) know what the magic amount of space left is before Win7 starts to delete old images? Is there any tweak to edit in the registry to modify this setting? It sure would be a valuable asset!

    If not, sure would be nice if MS would add that ablity in SP2, or Win8! Mr. Gates, are you and company listening?
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  3. mjf
    Posts : 5,969
    Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
       #432

    Brink certainly may know. I don't.

    For what it's worth:
    For me it's a moot point. Even though I use Windows imaging all the time, I definitely don't trust multiple images. Multiple images are maintained by storing differencing VHDs in shadow storage. A risky business in my opinion.

    I make single images using the "Create a system image" button. Delete move or rename images to retaining multiple full images.
    I would be looking at other software if you definitely want differential/incremental imaging.
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  4. Posts : 70,208
    64-bit Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #433

    Hello Darryl,

    As far as I know, there's not a setting to adjust the max space a system image can use. It pretty much uses all free space until out, then deletes the oldest image backup to make room for a new one.
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  5. Posts : 15,184
    Vista x64 / 7 X64
       #434

    You can muck about with registry settings and commands if you like.

    What is wrong with the slider under system protection ?

    Is it not working for you Darryl?
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  6. Posts : 1,939
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Steve Ballmer Signature Edition
       #435

    Storing of multiple images on backup media...


    Its just that many small and mid sized businesses are now using a written policy regarding backup and backup retention. Most dedicated backup programs (Acronis, Macrium, etc) allow you to choose how many older images you keep. A big client is implementing such a written policy this year... I'm trying to save them $ and use the included Win7 imaging, but there is no way to stipulate keep the last four weeks images. So we may need to modify our draft backup policy, the idea was to automate the process and have it documented.
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  7. Posts : 70,208
    64-bit Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #436

    SIW2 said:
    You can muck about with registry settings and commands if you like.

    What is wrong with the slider under system protection ?

    Is it not working for you Darryl?
    That slider would only affect restore points and shadow copies, and not system images or backups.

    System Protection - Change Disk Space Usage

    There is not a way to adjust the max space system images can use.
    Last edited by Brink; 27 Aug 2011 at 16:45. Reason: addition
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  8. Posts : 70,208
    64-bit Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #437

    Darryl Licht said:
    Its just that many small and mid sized businesses are now using a written policy regarding backup and backup retention. Most dedicated backup programs (Acronis, Macrium, etc) allow you to choose how many older images you keep. A big client is implementing such a written policy this year... I'm trying to save them $ and use the included Win7 imaging, but there is no way to stipulate keep the last four weeks images. So we may need to modify our draft backup policy, the idea was to automate the process and have it documented.
    Yeah, unfortunately a 3rd party image backup program that has that feature included would be required.
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  9. Posts : 15,184
    Vista x64 / 7 X64
       #438

    Oh I see.

    Adjusting space allocated to windows sys img will allow more images to be kept. But since you can't know how large each will be - there seems to be no way of selecting a specific number of images to be kept.

    If you want to specify a number of images - then you will need a commercial app.




    Darryl Licht said:
    Its just that many small and mid sized businesses are now using a written policy regarding backup and backup retention. Most dedicated backup programs (Acronis, Macrium, etc) allow you to choose how many older images you keep. A big client is implementing such a written policy this year... I'm trying to save them $ and use the included Win7 imaging, but there is no way to stipulate keep the last four weeks images. So we may need to modify our draft backup policy, the idea was to automate the process and have it documented.
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  10. Posts : 15,184
    Vista x64 / 7 X64
       #439

    You could take a look at Todo.

    Business use of the free version is allowed.

    http://www.todo-backup.com/business/

    There are a couple of limitations - can't be used for server o/s and can't image encrypted volumes from within windows.

    Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup-todo-bkup-mgmt.jpg
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