Avoiding the Windows 10 Update Bully with Windows 7 Updates

HenriK37 · Dec 7, 2015

It is my understanding that one can avoid getting harassed by the Windows 10 update bully is one simply refuses to allow some Windows 7 updates to install. Is this notion correct?

My notes indicate that one should NOT install the KB2952664 and KM3035583 Windows 7 updates to avoid the Windows 10 update bully. Are these two updates the only ones to be avoided? Are there others to avoid? Has someone published an up-to-date list of the Windows 7 updates to avoid? Are their dangers from not installing certain Windows 7 updates?

Guidance, whether that is reference to tutorial(s), direction to previous posts, or anything else would be deeply appreciated.

ICIT2LOL · Dec 9, 2015

Yes Henrik especially KB3035533 the other thing you can do is that if by chnace and soem VERY bad luck that KB gets installed you can use this Upgrade to Windows 10 Update - Enable or Disable in Windows 7 or 8.1 - Windows 10 Forums - use the disable registry chnage download and then 10 cannot upgrade your machine.
You can tell if it has been downloaded by looking in the registry for GWX in the HKEYs LOCAL MACHINE and CURRENT USER > Software and > Microsoft > just keep opening out to see if it is there unfortunately they have blocked anyone from deleting that entry so it is there for good unless you clean install again after wiping the drive and set updates to let you choose what to download and install.

Plus in the same situation you can just get rid of that rotten nag icon on the task bar by customising the Notifications area it to not show the icon or notifications, and if you go to the Task Manager find the GWX and end the process to cover most options

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jamis · Dec 9, 2015

I was able to delete the GWX entry in the registry without any warning, or prevention. I suspect it was there from when I allowed the first two or three W10 prep. updates to be installed. I have since hidden all of the W10 updates. I'll check again after this latest updates get installed.

Layback Bear · Dec 9, 2015

I check for GWX every time I install Windows 7 Updates.
It seems to sneak in even when I check the KB's for W-10 B/S.
The last batch of Windows 7 updates stated nothing about W-10 but still installed GWX in three registry places.

ThrashZone · Dec 9, 2015

This is the new kid on the block to take notice of,
And M$ was so kind to make it an Important update too

Probably the one that got you Jack,
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3112343

ICIT2LOL · Dec 10, 2015

Seems to me that whatever we do to prevent 10 crapware getting into our machines despite whatever OS one is using Microsoft still have this "you will have it and you will like it" attitude.

Frankly I think the whole issue is quite unethical, immoral, and a slap in the face for those of us who have spent a great deal of money over the years on their products. If there were an alternative I would be seriously thinking of going over to it.

It is the epitome of greed in my mind:sarc:

derekimo · Dec 10, 2015

John, you should uncheck this box in your settings, this is from your post above,

That keeps recommended updates out of the important area.

ICIT2LOL · Dec 10, 2015

Ok will do.

ThrashZone · Dec 10, 2015

Well this is the first time I've seen a win-10 related update as Important
So yes it is getting quite questionable on how things will go in the future especially hiding a Important update :/

Barman58 · Dec 10, 2015

Resistance is futile - Prepare for assimilation

ThrashZone · Dec 10, 2015

Hee-hee that is what it seems like Nigel

jamis · Dec 10, 2015

It seems I get one GWX entry in the registry after every bootup. The GWX entry has one sub-entry called "Reservation". It is always empty or "value not set". There is only one GWX entry in my registry and if I delete it, it returns after the next bootup. Restart will not set it, but a cold boot will. I assume that it is being set by one of the GWX related files on my system that can not be deleted because they are "SYSTEM" files. I still have all of the W10 updates hidden.I get no notifications for W10 in WU or on the System Tray, so I guess I can assume that I am currently immune to W10 for the moment. Will still keep up the eternal vigilance.

ICIT2LOL · Dec 11, 2015

currently immune to W10 for the moment.

For the moment being the operative word for all us suckers.

jamis · Dec 13, 2015

Last night, I installed the 12/08/15 updates, but not KB3112423 without any issues. This morning I searched the registry for GWX entries and found over a dozen keys with gwx related executables that weren't there before. I don't know what they are, nor which update installed them, but now I have concerns that one, or more, of the updates are responsible. Just a heads up to see if anyone else had this happen. Pictures at 11.

Also, all of the GWX related folders that I deleted from the hard drive previously, are now back. Deletion is blocked with the message that "Trusted Installer" permission is required. I tried the normal method to change permissions, but was denied as the administrator. Guess I'll try Brink's Take Ownership Shortcut when I have the time.

Lady Fitzgerald · Dec 13, 2015

Barman58 said:
Resistance is futile - Prepare for assimilation

Not all hope is lost; they didn't mention Linux. Going back to Commodore C64c is tempting, though.

Barman58 · Dec 13, 2015

Who's to say that Linsux is not a Borg plot too

torchwood · Dec 13, 2015

I think i inadvertantly found a way of not getting it, without involving much work.
Uninstall IE11, and use another browser.

I was reinstalling SP1, with IE8, did the updates in stages, last was IE, prior to that had no GWX downloads/prompts or issues,
installed 11 bang got hit by GWX.

Roy

Lady Fitzgerald · Dec 13, 2015

torchwood said:
I think i inadvertantly found a way of not getting it, without involving much work.
Uninstall IE11, and use another browser.

I was reinstalling SP1, with IE8, did the updates in stages, last was IE, prior to that had no GWX downloads/prompts or issues,
installed 11 bang got hit by GWX.

Roy

Nope, that's not it. I've been using IE11 for over a year and haven't been hit with GWX.

maxseven · Dec 13, 2015

jamis said:
It seems I get one GWX entry in the registry after every bootup. The GWX entry has one sub-entry called "Reservation". It is always empty or "value not set"...

I too have this empty key, and by itself IMO is of no concern. Executables on the other hand...

I have not yet decided to Approve 3112343 but it appears to me to be innocuous i.e. basically "if you try to update sumpin could break".

I have no interest in W10, want to stick with W7, but what is troubling to me about becoming perhaps "overly selective" about individual Windows Updates, is that at some point one is going to get cross-wise with their system files. Simply put, MS testers no doubt do their testing on systems that have older updates installed to them. So if our systems are instead "picked and chosen" with different System Files than MS tested with, well... not good.

As Layback Bear it seems, I do have 3 registry entries but only one has any data, and that is "GStatus of 2" whatever that means. I won't worry about it so long as GWX_control_panel tells me I'm OK.

phenix · Dec 13, 2015

I use a free program called "gwx control panel". It has served me well so far.

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