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Windows 7: Windows startup repair cannot repair this computer automatically

01 Oct 2017   #1
XP VM User

Windows7 Professional 64bit
 
 
Windows startup repair cannot repair this computer automatically

Hi everyone!

I had a crisis when turned on computer today (See below, a i5 chip 8 GB RAM , Windows 7 Professional (x64)) and it says:

"Windows cannot repair this computer automatically"

"Startup Repair cannot repair this computer automatically"

I have many screenshots to post of the details and I also checked the Event Viewer for this problem. Of course the computer was not working so I call them "Screenshots" when they are actually digital photos of the computer screen. They are on close up setting so the words and Error codes are quite visible (Most if not all error codes from the self tests read out as:

"Error Code = 0x0"

The second time I tried to start Windows today, it worked normally.

Wondering what I can do before this becomes a crisis that I can't get out of.

No Viruses or Malware, checked in past 24 each one using two different programs.
Its not the BSOD yet, so I didn't need to get the dump etc files requested, but the warning message appeared as regular GUI style with windows, so posting here to get advice so hopefully it doesn't get to a future BSOD crisis.

I'm being short here to wait for what types of data anyone wants or needs to help me investigate and see what is causing this so I can stop it.

Maybe you need to know this, otherwise skip it, A few days ago, the Hard Drive went down to 156K for a few minutes as I was copying [I should have used "move command" not copy, but now I know] some sections of the HD over to save them elsewhere.

But since I've started and closed down the computer several times since then,without incident, so I don't think its that. A different problem: I should make a separate thread for and I might if there is a solution that doesn't involve losing money is that I don't know how to get a larger than 500GB HD inside this laptop without losing program Product Keys, and using outside HD is an idea but what to move out? All files are just "many" nothing really BIG that I can move out at once to make more room.

Thanks for reading me!
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01 Oct 2017   #2
samuria

win 8 32 bit
 
 

Check the HD for errors use SFC /scannow backup data in case you should be able to get a new bigger drive and clone the old one no problems
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01 Oct 2017   #3
XP VM User

Windows7 Professional 64bit
 
 

Hi Samuria!

Thanks for your reply!

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by samuria View Post
Check the HD for errors use SFC /scannow backup data
I need more information please!

Question: Is SFC /scannow a command line on the DOS Prompt screen?

When you say "backup data" ...is that done by me before I do the scan? Unfortunately, I have not been able to do that as with Laptop HD approaching full I no longer can "fit" two slightly compressed backups on the External Backup Drive, I'd have to erase totally both backups 6 months ago and 8 months ago (I used to do it every 2 months or so until another problem occurred)

And so I cannot do the backup until I solve a "Apple" problem that is taking up valuable HD space and is taking since June to repair/restore slowly as nothing is working so far.
Not to give too many details.... Latest version (released 9-26-17 I think) of "iTunes" 12.7 does NOT work with (x64) Windows computers! And many attempts to install and test it out leave the computer "frozen" so only option was to hard restart button it. Of course the computer goes into the option of "DOS checking HD C: one of your disks needs to be checked for consistency" I think the message says that as I've seen it more than a dozen times past week. I'm working with Apple techs who seem to know the PC and Windows, but this is a Windows 7 problem so I'm writing to ask everyone here.

Question: So is SFC /scannow all I have to type after the >> DOS prompt? (only have one drive in laptop, not partitioned, so do I have to specify Drive C:? I forget DOS its been a while)
Again, is it safe to use without a current backup or should I solve the Apple and space problems first so I can make a current backup of the hugely inflated HD contents?
Thanks again for advice!
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01 Oct 2017   #4
torchwood

W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
 
 

Hi XP,,
re sfc

Run it from an elevated command prompt
sfc /scannow /r


BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING
Now the bigger problem from what you posted space dropped to 156K
GET RID of something/anything, BUT your going to have to do it bit by bit

W7 uses free space to perform its daily operations
DID you ignore the low space warning -- NEVER go below 10%

Suspect its the reason why you cant install Apple

Roy
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01 Oct 2017   #5
XP VM User

Windows7 Professional 64bit
 
 
Why I went down to 156 K I did not ignore warnings

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by torchwood View Post
Hi XP,,
re sfc

Run it from an elevated command prompt
sfc /scannow /r


BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING
Now the bigger problem from what you posted space dropped to 156K
GET RID of something/anything, BUT your going to have to do it bit by bit

W7 uses free space to perform its daily operations
DID you ignore the low space warning -- NEVER go below 10%

Suspect its the reason why you cant install Apple

Roy
Hi Roy!

I tend to write long sentences so I hope my response is not too much to read (others here know I do that and can't help it).

Short short answer is that I was in the process of clearing off huge "backups" of the old old original iPad1 I have that needed emergency "Restore" process back in June by phone with the Apple Tech help (after store I physically took it to gave up!)

I was erasing emergency backups I had made along the way of various versions of backups as Sync for the items on the iPad failed to "backup" like it was doing since 2010. So I lost everything ---like 24,000 photos for instance.

But the backup is ok I said.... No warning that it was not doing the job it was supposed to do! Fortunately (or bad for the Laptop's space on the HD I had saved two prior backups (20GB each) but they too had no photos AT ALL!)

So I'm smart... I went to the PC Backups and found one I had not erased yet from last year! That backup had worked so I have about 21,000 photos. But the missing 3,000 are still on the iPad so I was using a third party program to probe the iPad Device looking for them (as Data Recovery is sooooooo expensive for iPads!!)

Almost at end of story.....

So with all the saving of the extra backups and everything else I really used up my space as in May I had 70 GB Free on the 500GB HD (just think, three x 20GB backups each a different date and different attempt using older versions of iTunes (not the 12.7 version that fails to launch past the iCloud stage) and you can see how I oops ! used up everything and had no external places to put the extra savings stuff except "delete"

Yes! I had some old Large Flash Drives with 32 GB on each so unfortuantley, since you can't divide up the 20 GB backups it was "one" per Flash Drive and I used them to save them outside the computer in case iTunes started up again (as iTunes will erase automatically the oldest one as it knows the HD is getting full and that one has 24,000 photos on it and its now back in the computer and its not what I want erased.

OK .....so I was copying off the computer to outside HD some files and moving others around by the same command "copy" as I wanted to verify it was 100% copied accurately before I delete the file. You know the large files say you can't go to recycle bin its delete only so I better be sure.....and I guess I left too many on the computer when one of the copy commands were used..

.......and that is how I got down to 156K

Now its ok I'm back up to 32 GB Free... But still no working iPad and still lost the difference in photos between 2016 and 2017... BUT Apple gave me (as I kept complaining) and everyone else I guess.. in past few days 29th I think it was, a new version of the iCloud for windows and now the iTunes works perfectly without freezing up the whole computer.

I'm assuming all those emergency moves and actions did "something" to the PC that caused a problem in start up.

My goal with this Thread to to discover myself if I can, what went wrong and repair it so that nothing worse will happen later on...

Moral of my story...... Every few years we should purposely destroy or erase our current HD's or Flash Drives in the iPad, PC's etc just to "test out" if those copies we create using hours of effort are really able to come back and take over functions and make the computer or iPad function again! I really no of no other way to be certain that a copy I make today of the PC actually has everything on it or iPad actually has what it says it has on it.

[From the people here on an earlier thread I do use Macrium which allowed me to "mount" my saved backup HD of this Laptop from 1 year ago and discover a version of the iPad stored away on there that was not corrupted by the malfunctioning older version of the iTunes --that occurred before I even got the new 12.7 that froze the screen solid....of course I never once saved under the new one as I only got it to work a few days ago.]

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by torchwood View Post
Hi XP,,
re sfc

Run it from an elevated command prompt
sfc /scannow /r
And thank you for that instruction.... now I'll turn this off (after waiting to see if you reply to me first) and do this process and /r (report!) and report back to you and everyone what the scan result is.

Added this in for anyone else who needs it:

Elevated Command Prompt

(I pinned the C\Windows\system\32> to my start menu years ago so I can get it easy).

Was so busy typing I forgot to compliment you on the nice Dr Who Tardis image you have as your avatar there!

Have a great day everyone!
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01 Oct 2017   #6
XP VM User

Windows7 Professional 64bit
 
 
OK I tried sfc /scannow /r

Hi Roy!

Posting quickly so I get to you before its too late across the pond over there in England.

I launched the command prompt using "Run as administrator" choice (of course).

I typed in command " sfc /scannow /r " observing the spaces and correct slash marks.

I got the following result:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>sfc /scannow /r

Microsoft (R) Windows (R) Resource Checker Version 6.0
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Scans the integrity of all protected system files and replaces incorrect version
s with
correct Microsoft versions.

SFC [/SCANNOW] [/VERIFYONLY] [/SCANFILE=<file>] [/VERIFYFILE=<file>]
[/OFFWINDIR=<offline windows directory> /OFFBOOTDIR=<offline boot directory>
]

/SCANNOW Scans integrity of all protected system files and repairs files
with
problems when possible.
/VERIFYONLY Scans integrity of all protected system files. No repair operati
on is
performed.
/SCANFILE Scans integrity of the referenced file, repairs file if problems
are
identified. Specify full path <file>
/VERIFYFILE Verifies the integrity of the file with full path <file>. No re
pair
operation is performed.
/OFFBOOTDIR For offline repair specify the location of the offline boot dire
ctory
/OFFWINDIR For offline repair specify the location of the offline windows d
irectory

e.g.

sfc /SCANNOW
sfc /VERIFYFILE=c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
sfc /SCANFILE=d:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll /OFFBOOTDIR=d:\ /OFFWINDI
R=d:\windows
sfc /VERIFYONLY

C:\Windows\system32>/scannow /r
'/scannow' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Windows\system32>
Looks like its only instructions.... did it run? Took less than 1/10 second.

I entered /scannow /r without the sfc and see? It says:
'/scannow' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
What do I do now?

Thanks!

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01 Oct 2017   #7
XP VM User

Windows7 Professional 64bit
 
 
I don't understand why, but its working now

Hi Roy and everyone!

I turned off and turned back on computer after a few hours.

Tried same thing.... Elevated Command Prompt. "Run as administrator"

Entered after C:\Windows\system32\>sfc /scannow
Without the "/r "

and its working!

See?
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>sfc /scannow

Beginning system scan. This process will take some time.

Beginning verification phase of system scan.
Verification 1% complete.
Will let you know after its completed 100% for all phases.

[Edit: That was fast!]
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>sfc /scannow

Beginning system scan. This process will take some time.

Beginning verification phase of system scan.
Verification 100% complete.

Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations.

C:\Windows\system32>
What do I do now?

Thanks all!
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09 Oct 2017   #8
XP VM User

Windows7 Professional 64bit
 
 
Computer unable to start yet again! But I got photos this time!

Hi Everyone again!

Guess what still happens?

Computer does not start up!

I have these photos I took with a camera of the screen:

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Showing all the tests were done and Errors = 0x0

Regarding the last photo above:
I DO have the name and password written in the hand of the installer who set it up, when I got the computer in 2010!

But I never ever had to ever use it to see if it
"works" Until last time computer did not start or this time.... I know this is the master name and master password for entire computer. But I never let it out of my hands when outside and inside no one else has access to it so I never have to use the name or password.

Seems stupid now....but I'm thinking that I should have "destroyed" the newly installed Microsoft Windows 7 OS as a test while I was in the store to test out if the name and password actually "work" before leaving the store, don't you think?

Next time I'm doing that! But I know to break into this password and name protected administrative area is next to impossible (for a computer dunsel like me...impossible).

---------

And thank you for teaching/reminding me of the /scannow in DOS elevated prompt screen.

I ran the test now that I know exactly how to do it:

Here are the results:

Quote:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32> /scannow
'/scannow' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Windows\system32> \scannow
'\scannow' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Windows\system32> sfc/ scannow/

Microsoft (R) Windows (R) Resource Checker Version 6.0
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Scans the integrity of all protected system files and replaces incorrect version
s with
correct Microsoft versions.

SFC [/SCANNOW] [/VERIFYONLY] [/SCANFILE=<file>] [/VERIFYFILE=<file>]
[/OFFWINDIR=<offline windows directory> /OFFBOOTDIR=<offline boot directory>
]

/SCANNOW Scans integrity of all protected system files and repairs files
with
problems when possible.
/VERIFYONLY Scans integrity of all protected system files. No repair operati
on is
performed.
/SCANFILE Scans integrity of the referenced file, repairs file if problems
are
identified. Specify full path <file>
/VERIFYFILE Verifies the integrity of the file with full path <file>. No re
pair
operation is performed.
/OFFBOOTDIR For offline repair specify the location of the offline boot dire
ctory
/OFFWINDIR For offline repair specify the location of the offline windows d
irectory

e.g.

sfc /SCANNOW
sfc /VERIFYFILE=c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
sfc /SCANFILE=d:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll /OFFBOOTDIR=d:\ /OFFWINDI
R=d:\windows
sfc /VERIFYONLY

C:\Windows\system32> sfc /scannow

Beginning system scan. This process will take some time.

Beginning verification phase of system scan.
Verification 100% complete.

Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations.

C:\Windows\system32>
See it says:
Quote:
Verification 100% complete.

Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations.
(Short answer is everything tests out so it is working fine!)

So why does some days I'm prevented from using the computer because it just won't "start up" when I need it?

What do I do next ?

(Other than what I read in many other sites where if there is a windows problem the solution is simple! Just throw your life away!! Delete Old Windows program. Delete and remove all programs
Reinstall Windows first again
and reinstall all programs again from the original installation discs. Oh, and if the companies won't let you because they are old.... then pay up money for a new product code (if the software is still being manufactured and sold!).
Something I just won't and can't and don't want to do.....
Other than that solution...



QUESTION
: What other information can I post here so we can try to determine a solution for an annoying, occasional total non=-start of the computer... why is it doing it?

Thanks for reading the long post and looking at all the screenshots I got for you!

(I skipped a bunch so I have more if you want)

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09 Oct 2017   #9
torchwood

W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
 
 

Hi XP Vm,

gonna make bits and pieces replies, while im working thro this.

your original scannow commands failed because of incorrect syntax, copy/paste any further ones:)
sfc /scannow /r

Now questions
Are you running W7 SP1 (control panel >> System)
Do you have a W7 SP1 disc
the repair appears to be running on the D drive, were is your OS located, usually C
( screenshot of Disk management would be handy )
It also only appears to be JUST a W7 repair

Passwords
Depends where they are
Bios
from within Bios settings
system
Password Reset - Windows 7 Help Forums

end of part 1


Roy
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09 Oct 2017   #10
torchwood

W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
 
 

Part 2

Do you have any optimiser/tune-up type programs installed

What AV are you running, and have you been hit by malware or think you have.

stupid error code produced, its basically a general catch all.

what have you installed in the last couple of weeks
(including drivers and updates)

Run Belarc advisor just for your records
it will detail ALL your 3rd party progs and passwords.
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