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I have begun experimenting with Paragon Backup Home Edition as it has more features than the Macrium Free. It also has a ton of stuff I don't understand and may never use.
I have started out with the Smartbackup wizard, just to get a clean copy of my system. I am attempting to get a Macrium like System Image of my system drive.
The program asks what I want to backup, and unlike Macrium which showed the drive and the system reserve, Paragon shows Basic Hard Disk Track (with correct model identification) size is disk full size off the My Computer, then as a tree off the First Hard Disk it shows Master Boot Record Type:MBR Size:0 bytes.
A second branch of the Basic Hard DisK Track, it show System Reserved Type:Primary File System:NTFS Size:100 MB.
The third and final branch off the Basic Hard Disk Trach is the Drive Name and letter designation ( C: ) Type:Primary File System:NTFS Size:Full Disk size.
All of the above branches can be checked or unchecked for backup.
My question is if I want a bootable C: drive with all my programs and data and running good, what of the above items do I check to be Backed Up? This has me confused as usual or I wouldn't be bothering you helpful people. thanks for any assistance.
glennc
 

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Windows 7 UltimateAMD Phenom-II X4 9658192 MB DDR2-SDRAMATI Radeon HD 4200
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
CPU
AMD Phenom-II X4 965
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H
Memory
8192 MB DDR2-SDRAM
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4200
Sound Card
ATI Radeon HD 4200 High Definition Audo
Monitor(s) Displays
LG Electronics W1943
Screen Resolution
1360 X 768
Hard Drives
C: 500 GB Caviar Black SATA
E: 500 GB Caviar Black SATA
PSU
Ultra LSP 750
Case
Ultra XBlaster
Cooling
2 Fans, CPU Fan, PS Fan
Keyboard
Acer
Mouse
Logitech
Internet Speed
6 MB
Backup all three. That allows you to replace the hard drive when (not if) it fails and give you the same exact setup you have now.

The first two you only need to do once.
 

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Windows 10 Pro X64Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHzIntel Integrated HD Graphics
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo IdeaCenter 450
OS
Windows 10 Pro X64
CPU
Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
Memory
16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Integrated HD Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 22" LCD
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD
2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2
1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
Keyboard
Dell USB
Mouse
Lenovo USB
Internet Speed
Cable via Road Runner 3MB Upload, 30MB Download
Antivirus
Windows Defender, MBAM Pro, MBAE
Browser
Seamonkey
Other Info
UEFI/GPT
PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH
Backup all three. That allows you to replace the hard drive when (not if) it fails and give you the same exact setup you have now.

The first two you only need to do once.

Hello Ztruker,
Thanks for answering the call for for help. Since clicking on the box of the Basic Hard Disk 1 causes all the other boxes to be checkmarked also. That would be backing up all the drive and I could do a System Restore with that. Meaning I could use the recovery disk and Restore that backup and it would get be back to the exact running state of the machine at the time of the backup? I'm a little slow and wan't to completely understand.
If I am reading it correctly you also state that after keeping the above backup, I could do incremental,differential or full backups of just the data, not the System Reserve or the MBR/First Hard Disk Track?
Thanks for your response and more-so if you can water it down for me.
glennc
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 UltimateAMD Phenom-II X4 9658192 MB DDR2-SDRAMATI Radeon HD 4200
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
CPU
AMD Phenom-II X4 965
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H
Memory
8192 MB DDR2-SDRAM
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4200
Sound Card
ATI Radeon HD 4200 High Definition Audo
Monitor(s) Displays
LG Electronics W1943
Screen Resolution
1360 X 768
Hard Drives
C: 500 GB Caviar Black SATA
E: 500 GB Caviar Black SATA
PSU
Ultra LSP 750
Case
Ultra XBlaster
Cooling
2 Fans, CPU Fan, PS Fan
Keyboard
Acer
Mouse
Logitech
Internet Speed
6 MB
Yes, that is correct. Once you have all three then you only need to continue to backup the boot partition.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 10 Pro X64Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHzIntel Integrated HD Graphics
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo IdeaCenter 450
OS
Windows 10 Pro X64
CPU
Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
Memory
16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Integrated HD Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 22" LCD
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD
2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2
1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
Keyboard
Dell USB
Mouse
Lenovo USB
Internet Speed
Cable via Road Runner 3MB Upload, 30MB Download
Antivirus
Windows Defender, MBAM Pro, MBAE
Browser
Seamonkey
Other Info
UEFI/GPT
PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH
The only time you may want to reconsider MBR and System reserved is if you have done some repartitioning work to your HDD. MBR contains the disk partition table and system reserved contains the BCD. I also think you should have at least one backup of the current MBR and system reserved.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1Intel i7 2600kG.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GBNvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 300...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Own build
OS
Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
CPU
Intel i7 2600k
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe
Memory
G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+)
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro SSD 256GB, Samsung SSD 840 120GB, Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS x2
PSU
Seasonic M12II 520W
Case
Lian Li Lancool PC-K60
Cooling
Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+
Keyboard
Logitech MK520 (wireless)
Mouse
Logitech MK520
Internet Speed
6-7 Mbps
Antivirus
Norton Security Premium, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC)
Browser
FireFox
Other Info
Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1
Yes, that is correct. Once you have all three then you only need to continue to backup the boot partition.

Hello Ztruker,
Sorry for the density! Define the boot partition , PLEASE!
Thank you Sir.
glennc
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 UltimateAMD Phenom-II X4 9658192 MB DDR2-SDRAMATI Radeon HD 4200
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
CPU
AMD Phenom-II X4 965
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H
Memory
8192 MB DDR2-SDRAM
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4200
Sound Card
ATI Radeon HD 4200 High Definition Audo
Monitor(s) Displays
LG Electronics W1943
Screen Resolution
1360 X 768
Hard Drives
C: 500 GB Caviar Black SATA
E: 500 GB Caviar Black SATA
PSU
Ultra LSP 750
Case
Ultra XBlaster
Cooling
2 Fans, CPU Fan, PS Fan
Keyboard
Acer
Mouse
Logitech
Internet Speed
6 MB
The only time you may want to reconsider MBR and System reserved is if you have done some repartitioning work to your HDD. MBR contains the disk partition table and system reserved contains the BCD. I also think you should have at least one backup of the current MBR and system reserved.

Howdy mjf,
Thanks for joining my learning experience. So far if you don't use big words or acronyms I might figure it out. I got everything you said except the "BCD". Might you define that in less expert terms, also Please?
BTW I don't do anything other than take up disk space if I continue to backup everything? I am currently trying to get my mind around how to make incremental or differential backups with this software.
glennc
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 UltimateAMD Phenom-II X4 9658192 MB DDR2-SDRAMATI Radeon HD 4200
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
CPU
AMD Phenom-II X4 965
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H
Memory
8192 MB DDR2-SDRAM
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4200
Sound Card
ATI Radeon HD 4200 High Definition Audo
Monitor(s) Displays
LG Electronics W1943
Screen Resolution
1360 X 768
Hard Drives
C: 500 GB Caviar Black SATA
E: 500 GB Caviar Black SATA
PSU
Ultra LSP 750
Case
Ultra XBlaster
Cooling
2 Fans, CPU Fan, PS Fan
Keyboard
Acer
Mouse
Logitech
Internet Speed
6 MB
By boot partition I meant the partition Windows 7 is on, normally C:.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 10 Pro X64Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHzIntel Integrated HD Graphics
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo IdeaCenter 450
OS
Windows 10 Pro X64
CPU
Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
Memory
16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Integrated HD Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 22" LCD
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD
2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2
1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
Keyboard
Dell USB
Mouse
Lenovo USB
Internet Speed
Cable via Road Runner 3MB Upload, 30MB Download
Antivirus
Windows Defender, MBAM Pro, MBAE
Browser
Seamonkey
Other Info
UEFI/GPT
PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH
The only time you may want to reconsider MBR and System reserved is if you have done some repartitioning work to your HDD. MBR contains the disk partition table and system reserved contains the BCD. I also think you should have at least one backup of the current MBR and system reserved.

Howdy mjf,
Thanks for joining my learning experience. So far if you don't use big words or acronyms I might figure it out. I got everything you said except the "BCD". Might you define that in less expert terms, also Please?
BTW I don't do anything other than take up disk space if I continue to backup everything? I am currently trying to get my mind around how to make incremental or differential backups with this software.
glennc
Acronym soup. BCD = Boot configuration data = important boot data
A bit like the old boot.ini file.

The only point then really is that the MBR and 100MB system reserved partition generally don't change. But one good copy is good to have.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1Intel i7 2600kG.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GBNvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 300...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Own build
OS
Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
CPU
Intel i7 2600k
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe
Memory
G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+)
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro SSD 256GB, Samsung SSD 840 120GB, Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS x2
PSU
Seasonic M12II 520W
Case
Lian Li Lancool PC-K60
Cooling
Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+
Keyboard
Logitech MK520 (wireless)
Mouse
Logitech MK520
Internet Speed
6-7 Mbps
Antivirus
Norton Security Premium, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC)
Browser
FireFox
Other Info
Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1
By boot partition I meant the partition Windows 7 is on, normally C:.

Hey Ztruker,
Tanx. I had an idea that is what you meant but as they say a little knowledge is dangerous. Now can say, assuming by synapses respond accordingly, that I know!!
Appreciate it dude.
glennc
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 UltimateAMD Phenom-II X4 9658192 MB DDR2-SDRAMATI Radeon HD 4200
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
CPU
AMD Phenom-II X4 965
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H
Memory
8192 MB DDR2-SDRAM
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4200
Sound Card
ATI Radeon HD 4200 High Definition Audo
Monitor(s) Displays
LG Electronics W1943
Screen Resolution
1360 X 768
Hard Drives
C: 500 GB Caviar Black SATA
E: 500 GB Caviar Black SATA
PSU
Ultra LSP 750
Case
Ultra XBlaster
Cooling
2 Fans, CPU Fan, PS Fan
Keyboard
Acer
Mouse
Logitech
Internet Speed
6 MB
The only time you may want to reconsider MBR and System reserved is if you have done some repartitioning work to your HDD. MBR contains the disk partition table and system reserved contains the BCD. I also think you should have at least one backup of the current MBR and system reserved.

Howdy mjf,
Thanks for joining my learning experience. So far if you don't use big words or acronyms I might figure it out. I got everything you said except the "BCD". Might you define that in less expert terms, also Please?
BTW I don't do anything other than take up disk space if I continue to backup everything? I am currently trying to get my mind around how to make incremental or differential backups with this software.
glennc
Acronym soup. BCD = Boot configuration data = important boot data
A bit like the old boot.ini file.

The only point then really is that the MBR and 100MB system reserved partition generally don't change. But one good copy is good to have.

Yo mjf,
I appreciate you breaking it down to baby talk for me :)! Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish you feed him for his life, well I don't know how applicable that is, but I hope you get the idea. Thanks, would that be "mate"?
glennc
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 UltimateAMD Phenom-II X4 9658192 MB DDR2-SDRAMATI Radeon HD 4200
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
CPU
AMD Phenom-II X4 965
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H
Memory
8192 MB DDR2-SDRAM
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4200
Sound Card
ATI Radeon HD 4200 High Definition Audo
Monitor(s) Displays
LG Electronics W1943
Screen Resolution
1360 X 768
Hard Drives
C: 500 GB Caviar Black SATA
E: 500 GB Caviar Black SATA
PSU
Ultra LSP 750
Case
Ultra XBlaster
Cooling
2 Fans, CPU Fan, PS Fan
Keyboard
Acer
Mouse
Logitech
Internet Speed
6 MB
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