SSD - Install and Transfer the Operating System

How to Physically Install a SSD and Transfer the Operating System


Introduction

If you never owned an SSD, you have missed something. Yes, they are not cheap, but Dollar per Dollar there is no other piece of hardware that can give you as much additional performance than an SSD.

Because SSDs are expensive, their current use is for placing the operating system. That’s how you get the best mileage. Although XP and Vista can be installed on SSDs, it is recommended to use them for Windows7, which is the first system to support Trim.

For desktops, an SSD with a 60GB capacity is usually sufficient. The user data can be moved to the HDD – I will explain the procedure later. Should you have very large programs, e.g., games, you should move their program files during the installation of the game to the HDD too.

For laptops, the situation is more complicated because you usually have only one disk bay. I use 80GB and 90GB SSDs on my laptops. In addition, I use the HDD that I recovered from the laptop after I installed the SSD in an external USB enclosure. But, if you move around a lot with the laptop, that may not be so convenient and a bigger SSD (120GB or 250GB) may be in order (budget allowing).


Hardware Installation

For a desktop, you will need a bracket if it is a 2.5” SSD (like most today). But, there are also 3.5” SSDs that will fit without adaptor brackets into the disk bays. You also need a cable to attach the SSD to the motherboard. For electricity, there is usually an extra plug at the PSU which you can use for the SSD’s.

Once you have all those bits, you can install the SSD in an available disk bay – or if none available, some self-adhesive Velcro will also do. The SSDs are light and do not produce any vibration or heat.

For a laptop, you need an external enclosure that attaches to a USB port. That will allow you to make the initial SSD setups. The one I linked attaches via USB2 and eSata, which may be practical later to use as external drive with the HDD that you recovered from the laptop. Also for hot swapping bare bone HDDs. But there are cheaper enclosures for USB2 only and also some that allow attachment to USB3.

Transfer the Operating System

There are two ways to transfer the operating system from your current HDD to the SSD:
1. The Geeky way which comes for free and
2. The easy way that costs $19.95.

1.The Geeky way requires the following steps:

Prepare the SSD – You first have to initialize the SSD to create the MBR. You can do that with Disk Management or with this program (which you will need later anyhow).

Then you need to align the SSD and define an active partition on it. You use an elevated Command Prompt with the following commands:

Diskpart
List disk
Select disk n (where n is the number that was given for your SSD in List disk)
Clean
Create partition primary align=1024
Format fs=ntfs quick
Active (assuming you want to install an OS)
Exit

Note: If you are more comfortable working with Disk Management, you can also define a primary active partition with Disk Management. On a SSD, the partition will be automatically aligned by 1024.


If you want to verify that the alignment is correct, you use these commands:

Diskpart
List disk
Select disk n
List partition



You should see a result like this:

Partition ### Type Size Offset


------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 Primary 59 GB

1024 KB - but 64KB or any number divisible by 4 is also good. The offset has to be divisible by 4.

In Windows7, you may have the 100MB active boot partition. The easiest way to deal with that is to move the bootmgr to the C: partition using EasyBCD. That you do on your HDD before you transfer anything to the SSD. Then you do not have to worry about it and you need only transfer the C: partition to the SSD.


But if you care to keep the 100MB partition, then the partition you just created on the SSD is for that 100MB partition. The next step is to shrink the partition you just created to a 100MB size (make sure it is not any smaller). With Disk Management you will have trouble to do that. I recommend this program for the operation.

From the free space you gained, you create the C: partition for the OS. This partition must not be active and need not be a primary (because the 100MB partition contains the boot manager).

Alternatively and easier is if you first create the 100MB partition with these commands:

Diskpart
List disk
Select disk n (where n is the number that was given for your SSD in List disk)
Clean
Create partition primary size=100 align=1024
Format fs=ntfs quick
Active
Exit

Note: The unit in the size parameter is MB

After this action you can use Disk Management to create the C partition from the remaining unallocated space. That can be a logical partition.

If there is no 100MB partition, things are easy. The partition you created with Command Prompt will receive the C partition including boot manager and all.

There may be more partitions on your factory HDD – e.g., the Recovery partition and a Tools Partition. Those you should not transfer to the SSD because of space constraints. I would back them up – e.g., with an imaging program. The Recovery Partition you can also burn to DVDs.

The OS transfer

This is done with an image. There are a variety of free imaging programs (e.g., the free editions of Macrium, Paragon, Acronis, etc.) that are suitable for the task. You can also use the Windows7 imaging, which has the advantage that it deals with the 100MB active boot partition automatically. Disadvantage is that you never know exactly what it does.

You image your partitions to an external disk (you may have to assign a drive letter to the 100MB partition so that the imaging program can identify it) and then pull the images back in to the SSD (using the bootable recovery program of the imaging program).
The recovery is partition by partition. So you have to make separate runs for the 100MB partition (if any) and the C: partition.

Note: Many free imaging programs cannot shrink the originating partition to fit into the usually much smaller C: partition on the SSD - even if the amount of data in that partition would fit. In that case you will need to shrink the C: partition on the HDD prior to imaging it. The HDD C: partition must be smaller or equal in size to the designated partition on the SSD. For that operation I also recommend this program because Disk Management might not be able to shrink it enough. Note: Free Macrium can image to a smaller disk if the data fits.

It is, of course, understood, that the amount of data on your HDD C: partition must not exceed the capacity of the designated C: partition on the SSD. Should you have more data on your HDD C: partition than the size of the SSD C: partition can hold, I suggest you first create a data partition on the HDD system and move the user data there. Here is my video tutorial that explains how this is done. When you finally are on the SSD system, you then right click on the user folders in the data partition (Documents, Pictures, etc.) and Include them into the appropriate library. That approach does not require you to move the user folders later.

Next step is to change the boot sequence in the BIOS to set the SSD as second boot device (leave the CD/DVD reader as first boot device) and, hopefully, your system will boot.

2.The easy way for transferring the OS requires you to purchase this program. It does everything for you – alignment, deals with the 100MB partition, transfers C:, shrinks the originating partition, etc. All you will have to do is change the boot sequence.

Note: Before you activate the SSD, it is recommended to set the BIOS to AHCI. Best time to do that is just before you change the boot sequence. Once Windows7 is running, you make the corresponding settings in the OS. Here is a tutorial on how to do that.
Many people claim that there is a significant performance gain with AHCI. I, however, did not see that. But it may be different from system to system.

Settings after the OS transfer

Disk Defragmentation makes no sense on an SSD. For a laptop, go into Services, navigate to Disk Defragmenter, right click on it and go to Properties. Here you set the service to Disabled.
For a desktop, you may want to disable defrag in the Disk Defragmenter and only for the SSD so that the remaining HDDs can still be defragmented.

Note: As long as Defrag Service is turned off, you cannot shrink any partition. The partition shrink process requires the Defrag service. If you need to shrink a partition later, turn the Defragmentation Service temporarily on.

Hibernation File – most of us do not use Hibernation, but Sleep instead. But, the hiberfile takes precious space on your SSD – to the same tune as the size as your RAM. To get rid of it, run the following command in elevated Command Prompt: powercfg –h off. If you ever want it back, it is powercfg – h on.

Superfetch – many “experts” suggest to turn Superfetch off. I think that is not appropriate. Fetching a program or data from RAM is still a lot faster than fetching it from a disk – even from an SSD.

There are no other settings that are necessary. On the SSD forums you will find a lot of tweaks. I recommend you stay away from them.


Move the user folders to the HDD

To move the user folders to the HDD is very simple. Create a Data partition on the HDD. Define folders in that partition – e.g., Documents, Music, Pictures, etc. One for each folder you want to move off the SSD. The name of those folders can be anything. The system will rename them anyhow. It is just more obvious if you call them by the same name as the originating folders.

Then, open the Explorer and right click on, e.g., My Documents folder (not the Documents Library) in the left pane. Go to Properties and click on the Location tab. Here you click on Move and navigate to the corresponding folder in your Data Partition on the HDD. Then you Select that folder and Apply it.

Very Important: You must move the SSD folder to the corresponding Data Partition folder – NOT to the root of the partition itself. That would create a mess.








 
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I would not exclude
Program files
Program files (x86)

exclude data files by all means
You can disable hibernation and reduce the page file size. This will save you a lot of space. Tips here.

I had an issue with the Paragon utility but what you are attempting should work fine I would have thought.
 

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Excuse me for butting in but whs that Gparted isn't or can't the same thing done with diskpart?

Sorry mate but am a little confused as to the difference.
 

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Excuse me for butting in but whs that Gparted isn't or can't the same thing done with diskpart?

Sorry mate but am a little confused as to the difference.

I assume you mean diskpart clean or clean all. But that is not at all the same thing. E.g Clean All would write a bunch of zeros on your SSD (Clean without the All just resets the control records). What you want though is nothing at all on your Nands. And that is what you do with a Secure Erase - makes write operations twice as fast as if there were stuff on the Nand. Over time, garbage collection will do the cleaning too. That is why you always should leave some freespace on the SSD and let it idle at times.
 

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Excuse me for butting in but whs that Gparted isn't or can't the same thing done with diskpart?

Sorry mate but am a little confused as to the difference.

I assume you mean diskpart clean or clean all. But that is not at all the same thing. E.g Clean All would write a bunch of zeros on your SSD (Clean without the All just resets the control records). What you want though is nothing at all on your Nands. And that is what you do with a Secure Erase - makes write operations twice as fast as if there were stuff on the Nand. Over time, garbage collection will do the cleaning too. That is why you always should leave some freespace on the SSD and let it idle at times.
Thanks Wolfgang got that and yep that is what Gary said to do and I do leave it at idle for a couple of hours sometimes.
Am sticking an SSD into the laptop that was why I was interested in what you had put. New one comes with that 0309 firmware now too which is a bonus eh?
 

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I upgraded from Fw 0309 to 000F. Unless you have an issue specifically mention in their update spec sheet I wouldn't make the move yet as I noticed a performance degradation. Their is no firmware rollback option.
Crucial SSD support outside of North America in my opinion is about the worst I've come across.
 

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I upgraded from Fw 0309 to 000F. Unless you have an issue specifically mention in their update spec sheet I wouldn't make the move yet as I noticed a performance degradation. Their is no firmware rollback option.
Crucial SSD support outside of North America in my opinion is about the worst I've come across.
Blimey what on earth is going on at Crucial! Maybe I should have gone the Intel or even shelled for the Samsung.:(

Hum just been back through a few of the posts and threads on this and don't know what to do now upgrade or not? Might even consider getting a Corsair or Intel and keep the Crucial as spare until it has been sorted out - pretty annoying though!
 
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I think you are right Michael. Not worth upgrading to 000F. The things they fixed in it will most likely not touch the average user.

If I were you, I would write a letter to the CEO of Crucial. I have done that once with Sony and got immediate action.
 

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Thanks for the comments Wolfgang. If a Company doesn't have a monopoly or a unique product, I think poor support will be its downfall.
 

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I think you are right Michael. Not worth upgrading to 000F. The things they fixed in it will most likely not touch the average user.

If I were you, I would write a letter to the CEO of Crucial. I have done that once with Sony and got immediate action.
So stay with 0309 Wolfgang?

As for Crucial and Michael having to go to that length is pretty weak in my mind.

Really does make you wonder if it's worth staying with that brand.:huh:
 

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Yeah, I will stay with 0309. I usually do not fix things that are working. My next SSD I will try is this one. It is cheap enough to experiment. Comes also in larger sizes for reasonable prices. And the specs look great. But paper is patient - as we say in German.
 

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Yeah, I will stay with 0309. I usually do not fix things that are working. My next SSD I will try is this one. It is cheap enough to experiment. Comes also in larger sizes for reasonable prices. And the specs look great. But paper is patient - as we say in German.
Ok mate I'll go with what it's got and that Mushkin brand I have seen it and wondered what it would be like so will be interesting tot see what you think of it..They don't do it from my local supplier or at least the one I prefer to use and I am now confused re Intel as Newegg say they have a Marvel controller yet the ones out here are listed as using Sandforce controllers.

Now I don't want to be a pain but which benchmarking app do you prefer to use as Newegg use two and I have to find an article somewhere on what the ideal readouts would be as being new to this I am just seeing numbers and really don't understand except for the read / write iops what those other numbers mean or how they should affect what I get.

I am intending replacing all of my machines with a boot SSD so I need to find these things out and Googles come up with masses of info that would take years to plough through so as you have the finger on the pulse as it were I would appreciate your thoughts and opinions.

One last thing is what really has me mystified is why do the manufacturers of the drives not make their own controllers? It appears to me to be rather odd. Its a bit like having a Ford car with a Lexus engine:confused:
Plus there seems to be so many SSD controller chips - 30 companies profiled on StorageSearch.com

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1. For benchmarking I use Atto and HD Tune.

2. I would not worry too much about data transfer rates. What really counts for the OS are the 4K transfer rates and the access time. That should be around 0.1ms.

3. A Ford with a Lexus engine would be nice. I have a Mercury with a 6 Cyl. Ford engine and that thing is loud.

4. The Mushkin I will only start to use mid May when I am back in Germany. I plan to stick it into an eSata enclosure and put Win8 on it - as a Win8 to go.
 

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Internet Speed
DSL 6000
1. For benchmarking I use Atto and HD Tune.

2. I would not worry too much about data transfer rates. What really counts for the OS are the 4K transfer rates and the access time. That should be around 0.1ms.

3. A Ford with a Lexus engine would be nice. I have a Mercury with a 6 Cyl. Ford engine and that thing is loud.

4. The Mushkin I will only start to use mid May when I am back in Germany. I plan to stick it into an eSata enclosure and put Win8 on it - as a Win8 to go.
Ok I'll stick to those and thanks for the heads up on the transfer rate at least I don't have to wade through heaps of figures now.:cool:

My new car is a 12/2011 plated Mazda 6 hatchback (had a 2009 that I traded) and they have recently introduced steroids to the fuel injection system and it (they tell me as I go past) sounds like an F1 :D
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
OS
Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
I have owned 45 cars in my life - but never a Mazda. When I am back in Germany, I'll have to buy a new car too.
 

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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
I have owned 45 cars in my life - but never a Mazda. When I am back in Germany, I'll have to buy a new car too.
Be worth test driving a Mazda 6 Wolfgang the hatchback I think is the best styled model and I have no hesitation in saying the best car I have ever owned or driven, and like you have had many many cars over the years.

Have a look Mazda Australia Zoom-Zoom - Mazda6 Colours if it comes out at the home page click on colours then change model to touring hatchback - mines in Sunlight Silver. The luxury version of course is even better appointed inside, but the touring is so refined now.

Meant to add and 40mpg or 7L/100KM whichever you prefer I like mpg cos I'm over the hill LOL!!
 
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My Computer

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PC/Desktop
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Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
OS
Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
I am sure that is a very nice car. My problem is usually the seats. I have a serious back problem and need extra comfortable seats that have a lot of adjustment options. The only car I found that seeems to meet my requirements and is withinn my budget is this one. I also wanted one that is a bit higher so I don't have to crawl into it. In addition I can get that one 5000 Euros below MSRP. So we'll see.
 

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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
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from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
I am sure that is a very nice car. My problem is usually the seats. I have a serious back problem and need extra comfortable seats that have a lot of adjustment options. The only car I found that seeems to meet my requirements and is withinn my budget is this one. I also wanted one that is a bit higher so I don't have to crawl into it. In addition I can get that one 5000 Euros below MSRP. So we'll see.
Hum well the 6 has real nice leather seats and is fully powered except for the lumbar support and that you have to adjust by hand - but not hard and like you I have a back that cannot take too long a trip but this puppy I could go all day in.

Now as for height well I am vertically compromised I'm afraid so at 5-3" can't complain re the getting in and out.

But it makes up for it in grunt, steering (electric powered) the ride, cornering, the hatch is as good as a station wagon, stereo (Bose) is superb and the climate control is just out of this world especially if the boss is along with you LOL!! PLus the finish is just so good.:cool:

The luxury of course is even better but I couldn't justify the extra for what it gave - another one? absolutely!!
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
OS
Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
Off topic but you guys started it. Wolfgang, I thought Mercs and Audis were affordable in Germany? If I was going for a better than average car I think it would be Lexus.

I'd be interested in how you find that Mushkin SSD. The price you posted is very good.
 

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Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
CPU
Intel i7 2600k
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ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe
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G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+)
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro SSD 256GB, Samsung SSD 840 120GB, Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS x2
PSU
Seasonic M12II 520W
Case
Lian Li Lancool PC-K60
Cooling
Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+
Keyboard
Logitech MK520 (wireless)
Mouse
Logitech MK520
Internet Speed
6-7 Mbps
Antivirus
Norton Security Premium, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC)
Browser
FireFox
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Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1
Off topic but you guys started it. Wolfgang, I thought Mercs and Audis were affordable in Germany? If I was going for a better than average car I think it would be Lexus.

I'd be interested in how you find that Mushkin SSD. The price you posted is very good.
Yep sorry MJ my fault but you bring up a valid point as they seem to have them all over Africa too eh?

Still have been looking at the Sandisk stats and they do not look that bad either.
 

My Computer

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Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
OS
Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
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