Building a Gaming PC, is this good?

[CommandoBob]

I am not essentially wanting to overclock, all I'd care about is the performance of both CPUs when pushing them to their limits. Hope you'll undestand.

All I can go by is the review I read so far.

Based on that, if you only wanted to overclock Ivy or Haswell to 4.2ghz then Haswell will be faster and won't be too hot. If you want to go much higher then right now Ivy looks like the better option.

The good news is you don't need to buy for a month, by then there will be numerous reviews, benchmarks and user reviews on forums etc to give the full picture of what Haswell is like to overclock with.

Great, would be ample time then. Should I still get a Z87 mobo if I weren't to be getting a Haswell? Thanks.

 

[paulpicks21]

For Ivy you need Z77, for Haswell you need Z87

 

[CommandoBob]

For Ivy you need Z77, for Haswell you need Z87

Sorry, I meant Z87. More specifically, the one I mentioned in one of my previous posts.

 

[kbrady1979]

The two aren't interchangeable. Ivy Bridge is Socket 1155(Z77) and Haswell is Socket 1150(Z87). If you go with the i5-3570K, you need a Z77 motherboard. If you get the i5-4670K, you need a Z87 motherboard.

 

[CommandoBob]

The two aren't interchangeable. Ivy Bridge is Socket 1155(Z77) and Haswell is Socket 1150(Z87). If you go with the i5-3570K, you need a Z77 motherboard. If you get the i5-4670K, you need a Z87 motherboard.

Okay, so if I picked the i5-3570k I would need the p8z77-v I previously selected and for the Haswell I would need the newly picked z87, got it. Any other improvements this build could use? Other than the CPU/MOBO exchange - I've traded the GTX 660 Ti with a 760 Ti when it's out.

 

[kbrady1979]

Yep, you got it! Looks like it would make a hell of a system.

 

[Dude]

That is going to be a great rig.

 

[TwoCables]

Would you wanna trade when it's all built?

j/k

 

[CommandoBob]

Yep, you got it! Looks like it would make a hell of a system.

That is going to be a great rig.

Would you wanna trade when it's all built?

j/k

Thanks! Looking forward to building it! Will be posting pictures as suggested by somebody prior.
Anyone still has advice send them my way!

 

[kbrady1979]

Doug, if you want to send me the hardware, I will get to testing it......let me give you my address... lol

The only thing I personally would change is the CPU cooler. What you have listed is great for a mild OC, but for aesthetics, performance, and sound levels, I'd go with a closed loop water cooler. Just a suggestion.

 

[Dude]

Doug, if you want to send me the hardware, I will get to testing it......let me give you my address... lol

I will work on it, the IGPU in the haswell's are looking good too

 

[CommandoBob]

Doug, if you want to send me the hardware, I will get to testing it......let me give you my address... lol

The only thing I personally would change is the CPU cooler. What you have listed is great for a mild OC, but for aesthetics, performance, and sound levels, I'd go with a closed loop water cooler. Just a suggestion.

No thanks, 4.5 GHz on the Ivy Bridge or whatever voltage on the Haswell is sufficient for me to play the latest games on max settings 1920x1080 I hope.

 

[linnemeyerhere]

Actually yes, from what I heard listening to a Haswell intro today, this on board power capabilities has great tuning of the ram and being able of maximizing the mobo ram speed settings. I would consider going with a higher Mhz ram set. Around 9:45 he speaks to the voltage advantages.




It's a bit of a guess to know where the sweet spot is but your seeing MSI touting 3000Mhz....wow !

 

[essenbe]

Guys, remember the news we are getting from the hardware review sites was most likely from engineering samples. The retail version may be a lot different. Remember what we all heard about Ivy Bridge from the hardware sites when they came out. The retail versions that a lot of us have are very different than the reviews were.

 

[linnemeyerhere]

Guys, remember the news we are getting from the hardware review sites was most likely from engineering samples. The retail version may be a lot different. Remember what we all heard about Ivy Bridge from the hardware sites when they came out. The retail versions that a lot of us have are very different than the reviews were.

Very true !

 

[paulpicks21]

Guys, remember the news we are getting from the hardware review sites was most likely from engineering samples. The retail version may be a lot different. Remember what we all heard about Ivy Bridge from the hardware sites when they came out. The retail versions that a lot of us have are very different than the reviews were.

I got the feeling by the way some of that review was worded and by the date it was published that it was not an engineering sample they were using.

But it matters not, regular folk on many forums will have the chip by tomorrow and we can see how they do with overclocking.

 

[kbrady1979]

That's right, we will have a slew of information to read about soon enough. I've always thought that whatever the final word, there is no reason to upgrade to it unless you are running a system older than Sandy Bridge.......and I'll stick by that.

 

[linnemeyerhere]

That's right, we will have a slew of information to read about soon enough. I've always thought that whatever the final word, there is no reason to upgrade to it unless you are running a system older than Sandy Bridge.......and I'll stick by that.

Exactly, from all I hear the big news is the internal power controller and it's potential in most normal uses to extract large power savings so portables can run longer and have better graphics.

 

[essenbe]

That seems to be the focus of Intel's attention. Although the unlocked desktop CPUs have a higher TDP than ivy Bridge. There does not seem to be a lot of improvement in the efficiency of the processor though. I'm waiting to see what some of the overclockers clubs say about it when they have had time to have a go at it. There does seem to be a few advantages to the chipset though, and some of the higher end motherboards have some nice features. Whether they are part of the chipset or add ons, I don't know. I still think most of the hardware review sites tested with engineering samples. That is traditionally Intel's SOP. They have to sign non disclosure agreements not to release the info until a certain date. That is Intel's MO. The sites have to have the chips early enough to build the rigs and do the testing and write the articles so they will have them ready in time. Sometimes it takes them a while to figure out how the Chipset and CPU operate to try their tests. This one overclocks much more like the Sandy Bridge-E than the Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge. It takes time to play with them.

 

[linnemeyerhere]

What makes me nervous and I think we'll find with the overclockers is that with this extremely fine wire inside its design must control voltage and amps or it would just meltdown. I wonder if the smaller we go the more fragile and less overclockable these chips become?