Building a Gaming PC, is this good?

[essenbe]

That's a distinct possibility. Intel is going after the laptop and notepad market. They are just trying to give desktop users enough to keep us interested, I think. They are not really concerned about us. I read an article of an interview of an Intel exec. several months ago. He said Intel could have made a desktop chip the ran stock at 5GHz, but they didn't feel the need to. That told me a lot about intel's focus. they are not concerned about overclockers. I believe, agree or not, Intel believes they have the desktop market sewed up so the have no reason to cater to the enthusiast crowd. They are after AMDs laptop and notepad business, they feel they already have the enthusiast market. Whether you personally agree or not, that seems to be what Intel believes. Their goal seems to be to take AMD down in the CPU market. They have already said they are planning to solder chips to the boards in the future. They are going after the board manufacturers too, it seems. Intel is greedy, they want it all. Trust me, I'm an Intel guy, but I want AMD to pull a rabbit out of their hat real bad.

 

[linnemeyerhere]

+1 one to that, life without AMD would be one hardly worth living...........kidding but kind of true!

 

[essenbe]

I know you are an AMD guy at heart, Alan. But until AMD starts really pushing Intel, what we have is close to as good as we are going to get. And if AMD goes, you better buy a lottery ticket if you want to build another rig.

 

[linnemeyerhere]

You speak the scary truth Steve. What was that movie with Will Smith....mr. Roboto or something...that's our future with Intel.

 

[kbrady1979]

Intel will never put AMD out of business. They would probably give them money to keep that from happening. If AMD went belly up, Intel would be dismantled for being a monopoly. They will let AMD have just enough to stay afloat and that is it. The do have the CPU market sewn up, and have for several years. The last time AMD had anything actually better than Intel was before the Intel "Core" series came out. I think it was the Athlon 64 FX series, when AMD's top of the line chips were sold for $1000. Now, don't put me on the cross because of what I just said, because I'm not ragging on AMD stuff. I'm just stating facts.

 

[essenbe]

When I look at what Intel is doing and some of the info coming from them, That's the big picture I see. Iy's where it looks like Intel is heading.

 

[essenbe]

Intel will never put AMD out of business. They would probably give them money to keep that from happening. If AMD went belly up, Intel would be dismantled for being a monopoly. They will let AMD have just enough to stay afloat and that is it. The do have the CPU market sewn up, and have for several years. The last time AMD had anything actually better than Intel was before the Intel "Core" series came out. I think it was the Athlon 64 FX series, when AMD's top of the line chips were sold for $1000. Now, don't put me on the cross because of what I just said, because I'm not ragging on AMD stuff. I'm just stating facts.

I'm not 'putting you on the cross' Kelly. You are probably right, but Intel is at AMD's throat and going after them. AMD has lived for years on price. Remember when Intel's top mainstream enthusiast chip was $1000? Well it's now $350. They are trying to reduce AMD's price advantage too. I really don't think Intel cares about a charge of a monopoly any more than Microsoft did. What that suit cost Microsoft was 'chump change' to them and would be to Intel too. Heck, they have more attorney's working for them than Eric Holder.

besides, AMD's graphics cards will keep them in business, just maybe not the CPU business.

 

[Wishmaster]

I was considering upgrading. But I think I may just hang on to my Sandy build for another year at the very least ... maybe 2.
Doensnt seem to be enough of a performance boost to justfy the cost of a new MOBO+CPU together.

Still considering a GPU upgrade though, but have a hard time justifying that one as well since my 570 is still going strong without much issue (On games I play anyway)

 

[kbrady1979]

I know you aren't putting me on the cross, I was meaning the hardcore AMD fans. I don't like Intel's mindset anymore than the next guy, but they have dominated the CPU market for several years now, and unless AMD gets hold of some alien technology, they always will. AMD messed up by selling off their foundries and being at the mercy of whatever the foundries are willing to make for them as far as architecture and manufacturing process/die size.

 

[linnemeyerhere]

I was considering upgrading. But I think I may just hang on to my Sandy build for another year at the very least ... maybe 2.
Doensnt seem to be enough of a performance boost to justfy the cost of a new MOBO+CPU together.

Still considering a GPU upgrade though, but have a hard time justifying that one as well since my 570 is still going strong without much issue (On games I play anyway)

Funny thing but the features of the new mobo's to me are more of a reason to upgrade then the chip ! I don't think many of the features will trickle down to Gen.II boards.

 

[TwoCables]

That's right, we will have a slew of information to read about soon enough. I've always thought that whatever the final word, there is no reason to upgrade to it unless you are running a system older than Sandy Bridge.......and I'll stick by that.

Yeah, that's kind of how I did it. I had an E8400 overclocked to 4.05 GHz in a Gigabyte EP45-UD3P and "everyone" on Overclock.net wanted to see me get one of the new Core i5 or i7 CPUs when they came out. At the time, my only feeling was that it didn't seem worth it because my system was major overkill for me at the time (and it still would be).

When Sandy Bridge came out, a point was reached where a bunch of people convinced me to upgrade to it instead of simply upgrading to a Q9550 or a Q9650 (and overclocking it as high as possible). I felt that it was worth it because it sounded to me like Sandy Bridge is better than the first generation which made me want it even more.

When Ivy Bridge came out, I just looked the other way because it doesn't seem like a big enough performance increase to justify the cost and physical labor of upgrading. I'm even feeling the same about Haswell even though it's 2 generations after what I have, just like how Sandy Bridge was 2 generations after the Core2 series. Perhaps I'll upgrade when Broadwell comes out. It might be fun to have that big of an upgrade.

The next time I'd upgrade after Broadwell, I'll be getting an AMD CPU because it sounds to me like it's a guarantee that they'll continue making socketed CPUs long after Intel is done doing it. So Intel will probably lose a large amount of customers. Of course, we're probably the minority of their customers so they probably couldn't care less.

You speak the scary truth Steve. What was that movie with Will Smith....mr. Roboto or something...that's our future with Intel.

"I, Robot".

Mr. Roboto is a song: Dōmo arigatō, Mr. Roboto!

 

[essenbe]

I know you aren't putting me on the cross, I was meaning the hardcore AMD fans. I don't like Intel's mindset anymore than the next guy, but they have dominated the CPU market for several years now, and unless AMD gets hold of some alien technology, they always will. AMD messed up by selling off their foundries and being at the mercy of whatever the foundries are willing to make for them as far as architecture and manufacturing process/die size.

That begs the question, Kelly. Why did AMD do that? They knew the consiquences better than you or I. It almost seems like throwing in the towell, dosen't it?

I was considering upgrading. But I think I may just hang on to my Sandy build for another year at the very least ... maybe 2.
Doensnt seem to be enough of a performance boost to justfy the cost of a new MOBO+CPU together.

Still considering a GPU upgrade though, but have a hard time justifying that one as well since my 570 is still going strong without much issue (On games I play anyway)

Funny thing but the features of the new mobo's to me are more of a reason to upgrade then the chip ! I don't think many of the features will trickle down to Gen.II boards.

I agree, Alan. I looked at some of the higher end boards' features and was fairly impressed. I don't think it will trickle down because a lot of it is the chipset. I haven't been impressed with what has come out about the CPUs. Of course, remember this time of the game when Ivy came out. Ivy won't overclock as high as Sandy? That was absolute hog wash. They overclock higher, easier and are tougher.

 

[kbrady1979]

AMD needed quick cash, that's why they sold their foundries off.

 

[linnemeyerhere]

I know you aren't putting me on the cross, I was meaning the hardcore AMD fans. I don't like Intel's mindset anymore than the next guy, but they have dominated the CPU market for several years now, and unless AMD gets hold of some alien technology, they always will. AMD messed up by selling off their foundries and being at the mercy of whatever the foundries are willing to make for them as far as architecture and manufacturing process/die size.

That begs the question, Kelly. Why did AMD do that? They knew the consiquences better than you or I. It almost seems like throwing in the towell, dosen't it?

I was considering upgrading. But I think I may just hang on to my Sandy build for another year at the very least ... maybe 2.
Doensnt seem to be enough of a performance boost to justfy the cost of a new MOBO+CPU together.

Still considering a GPU upgrade though, but have a hard time justifying that one as well since my 570 is still going strong without much issue (On games I play anyway)

Funny thing but the features of the new mobo's to me are more of a reason to upgrade then the chip ! I don't think many of the features will trickle down to Gen.II boards.

I agree, Alan. I looked at some of the higher end boards' features and was fairly impressed. I don't think it will trickle down because a lot of it is the chipset. I haven't been impressed with what has come out about the CPUs. Of course, remember this time of the game when Ivy came out. Ivy won't overclock as high as Sandy? That was absolute hog wash. They overclock higher, easier and are tougher.

Man if you can get some coffee and food and take the pace this will tell you cool stuff already and this new MSI board is a sweet value.....IMHO

 

[essenbe]

Him again? I'm watching, but it may be bed time before he finishes. Besides, I'll put whatever stickers on my case I want to, whether he likes it or not. How dare him say I have a cheesy looking case. :mad2:

 

[Solarstarshines]

Him again? I'm watching, but it may be bed time before he finishes. Besides, I'll put whatever stickers on my case I want to, whether he likes it or not. How dare him say I have a cheesy looking case. :mad2:

Well I don't know about the case but i'm not falling for that MSI nonsense again they truly disappointed me and a whole heard of people

Also this guy is Bias as fk he pretty much doesn't give anything credit besides Nvida and Intel projects which he shouldn't be that much of a jerk about just like Lavcoprice tech a bunch of haters and ananana my system is better then yours bs

Logan and Linus has been the only people I seem to trust so far everyone else is like a robot and repeating what everyone else says pretty sad

 

[CommandoBob]

Hey guys, I have my new rig scheduled to be purchased on the 4th of July (3 weeks left ) - this is my current build

Now I wanted to ask you guys if there are any potential improvements I can make for maximum performance? I have an additional €40-50 (maybe, depends on next week's paycheck statement) to spend, so what should I give an upgrade? I will be getting the GTX 760 which is said to be released on the 25th of June - if the price is about the same as a GTX 660 Ti.

Thanks for your help!

 

[linnemeyerhere]

Hey guys, I have my new rig scheduled to be purchased on the 4th of July (3 weeks left ) - this is my current build

Now I wanted to ask you guys if there are any potential improvements I can make for maximum performance? I have an additional €40-50 (maybe, depends on next week's paycheck statement) to spend, so what should I give an upgrade? I will be getting the GTX 760 which is said to be released on the 25th of June - if the price is about the same as a GTX 660 Ti.

Thanks for your help!

Looks really good and should be a blast to build and a strong performer !

 

[essenbe]

I doubt the price for the 760 will be the same as the 660TI. In the US the 760 cost about $100 more than the 660TI.

 

[CommandoBob]

Looks really good and should be a blast to build and a strong performer !

Thanks! I'll be sure to make pictures while building the whole thing.
Anybody else has some advice for improvements?

I doubt the price for the 760 will be the same as the 660TI. In the US the 760 cost about $100 more than the 660TI.

But... the 760 isn't even out yet? This article, and multiple others too, reported it would be around $249-$299, which is around the same price of a GTX 660 Ti.