Solved Soliciting advice on processor selection for video editing rig

[paulpicks21]

It was actually just to highlight the voltage regulator is still on chip for devils canyon.

 

[Layback Bear]

Thanks Paul. Some more good information.

One of the reasons I chose the CPU I use now is because of all the stories about the heat problem with some of the Haswells.

TVeblen I believe it is insane to un cap a new cpu but it does show the results and where for a while at least was Intel's capping process was a problem.
I surly believe they must have solved that problem by now.

Moving things on or off the cpu will change the temps but we have no control over such things so to me it's not worth arguing over.

I think what you are looking for is a processor that works great and maybe just adding a little better cpu cooler will make your customer happy at the right price range.
Whether one cpu is a little faster than another one I don't believe your customer will ever know or notice. They will notice overheating for sure.
It's very difficult to solve over heating problems using Team Viewer.

 

[Britton30]

It was actually just to highlight the voltage regulator is still on chip for devils canyon.

Yeah I was wrong about the VRM on Haswell refresh, I read it was removed. The author was obviously brain damaged. So it makes me wonder why the need for the Z97 chipsets. :sarc:

 

[paulpicks21]

It was actually just to highlight the voltage regulator is still on chip for devils canyon.

Yeah I was wrong about the VRM on Haswell refresh, I read it was removed. The author was obviously brain damaged. So it makes me wonder why the need for the Z97 chipsets. :sarc:

Dunno really Gary mate, I know that a lot of the Z87 boards are now compatible with the Devils Canyon CPU's with a Bios update. But I am guessing the Z97's have a few new features and perhaps overclock a bit better too. I am no expert on any of this though, it's just stuff I have read. I would love to have gotten a 4790K though to see how far she would go lol but dam it would be a downgrade for me which actually annoys me! As you know I always like new stuff and it's been quite some times since I changed anything!

 

[Britton30]

LOL, yeah Paul, 3 months or so?

 

[paulpicks21]

LOL, yeah Paul, 3 months or so?

Actually Gary, I just checked and the last upgrades I did were the CPU and Mobo on 10th Jan so 5 months!!

 

[Dude]

Dang Paul, your slacking go buy some new stuff mate

 

[Britton30]

Dang Paul, your slacking go buy some new stuff mate

Yeah, FIVE months? I know, get a RaspberryPI and mess with it.

 

[GeneO]

It was actually just to highlight the voltage regulator is still on chip for devils canyon.

Yeah I was wrong about the VRM on Haswell refresh, I read it was removed. The author was obviously brain damaged. So it makes me wonder why the need for the Z97 chipsets. :sarc:

For Broadwell maybe.

 

[Dude]

GeneO, he admitted he made a mistake, why the sarcasm MAYBE, MAYBE being the key word

 

[GeneO]

Dude, I meant no sarcasm, why did you think that? I said maybe because I can't figure out for the life of me the why of the Z97 chipset. If I wanted to level any sarcasm it would be at Intel.

From all I have read, then broadwell might as well run on the Z87. Broadwell has a couple of more features and some new instructions but not much really.

 

[Dude]

Dude, I meant no sarcasm, why did you think that? I said maybe because I can't figure out for the life of me the why of the Z97 chipset. If I wanted to level any sarcasm it would be at Intel.

From all I have read, then broadwell might as well run on the Z87. Broadwell has a couple of more features and some new instructions but not much really.

I apologize for my comment, it was uncalled for.

 

[GeneO]

That is OK, and I apologize for the tone of my first post, I was a little cranky at the time, but was not looking for an argument.

 

[TVeblen]

 

[GeneO]

One of my favorite MP skits

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[TVeblen]

Decision made. We are going with the 4790K.
Now to find an LGA1150 MoBo that has the BIOS upgrade needed to run it!

 

[Britton30]

As far as I know, all Z97 chipset boards will support it Bob. Or is it Rob?

 

[paulpicks21]

Yeah just take your pick from the 100s of new x97 boards. Only reason you would need a bios update is if you had an older z87 board.

 

[TVeblen]

As far as I know, all Z97 chipset boards will support it Bob. Or is it Rob?

It's Bob.
According to the article Bill posted here:
http://www.sevenforums.com/pc-custo...nveils-devil-s-canyon-its-first-4ghz-cpu.html
the 4790K runs at 88W rather than the normal 84W of other Haswells. That will require a change in the BIOS on the Z87 motherboard. There was one other difference too, but I forget right now.
Could be wrong - maybe the Z97 board will adjust without a BIOS upgrade, but they constantly make BIOS upgrades for new processors so I don't see why this one would be any different regardless.

 

[GeneO]

I think the BIOS change in the Z87 is merely to recognize the new processor SKU, nothing more.

Go for the Z97. The boards are newer, will definitely support Broadwell when it comes out, and have newer features and i/o support (e.g. M.2 support). I imagine the Intel USB 3.0 is less buggy too (I would hope).

But if you decide Z87, I would make absolutely sure the MB manufacturer will support the 4790k. It also may be that the Z87 MB manufacturer may put out a quick and dirty BIOS to support the new processor and that is the end of their support for the MB - they have moved on to Z97.

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