First build ever. Novice knowledge / experience. Advice please :)

Fieldinator89

New member
Local time
8:36 AM
Messages
59
Location
Arizona
So far this is what I am looking at purchasing:

AMD FX-4130 - System Build - PCPartPicker

I am a student with not a ton of money to fork out but definitely want to gain experience of PC building, and to get something that will work better than my current laptop.
(Toshiba Satellite C55Dt-A5231 Laptop)

I have excluded the case from the purchase because I have an HP dx2000 lying around collecting dust and was wondering if I could use this case for this build?

Here are the specs for the HP:
HP Compaq Business Desktop dx2000 microtower (QuickSpecs/c04283094.pdf)

I am mainly into programming, photoshop, illustrator, 3d animation, and things of the rendering nature. Not much of a gamer anymore so I am wondering if this build would suffice because it's pretty damn slow on the laptop. Also, would you recommend purchasing a separate video card? The processor has integrated graphics and is decent from what I looked up. These are the three video cards I have been looking at:

XFX HD-545X-ZQH2 Radeon HD 5450 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card - Newegg.com

ASUS GT630-SL-2GD3-L GeForce GT 630 2GB 64-Bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 Low Profile Ready Video Card - Newegg.com

EVGA 02G-P3-2617-KR GeForce GT 610 2GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Newegg.com

Is that necessary? Or should I perhaps purchase something else (monitor, speakers, etc)? I was planning on just running it through my television until I had enough money to purchase a better monitor but would like to snag one now if possible and do not need the video card. Anyway, this will be the second time I have put together a computer and the first I have put together my own so I am definitely a novice and would appreciate honesty and understanding if something I have chosen is not a good deal or something of the nature. I look forward to reading your responses and appreciate any advice you have to offer!
OH! Also, I am under the impression that I also need to purchase a couple fans for cooling? Is this correct also?

Thank you,
Jeremy
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
AMD Dual-Core E1-1200 Accelerated Processor
Motherboard
Chipset: AMD K12 IMC Southbridge: AMD A55/A60M
Memory
DDR3 - 6gb
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics
Hard Drives
500gb HDD
Antivirus
Malware Bytes Pro
Browser
Chrome / Mozilla
I would not recommend using the HP dx2000 for a new build.
It's small and has poor air circulation. You also would not be able to install the needed power supply. They won't fit in most HP cases.

The first thing we need to know is how much money are you willing to spend.

You will not be able to build a super cheap compute to do the things you want to do with any reasonable speed in doing them.

From your post #1

I am mainly into programming, photoshop, illustrator, 3d animation, and things of the rendering nature.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Built them myself, Science Experiments !
OS
Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
CPU
AMD fx8350 4ghz, AMD-32 2400mhz, AMD-64 3200mhz, AMDx64 2.8G
Motherboard
SIS 755, ECS-K8M890M-M (Ult 7600), GigaByte & others
Memory
2gb, 4gb on the Ult 7600, 4gb on Technet RTM, 32gb on FX8350
Graphics Card(s)
Draw my own Graphics, several nVidia cards
Sound Card
on motherboard
Monitor(s) Displays
19" flat scr, 28" I-Inc widescr,22" Emprex Widescr, 23" Acer
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024, 1440 x 900, 1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
6 pata Ide HD's & 2 Sata HD's
added 80gb external on Ult 7600 computer,
numerous extra 1tb, 2TB, 3Tb SATA HD's
A collection of ext HD Docks w/ HDs
PSU
430w, 550w, 600w, 700, 800, etc
Case
All Generic Full Towers
Cooling
Open Air & a few fans, some w/ colored LEDs
Keyboard
Compaq & Dell recycled from GoodWill
Mouse
Made in China Optical Wired Mouse
Internet Speed
Fast Cable InterNet
Antivirus
AVG Free on 24 different Desktops, NO Problems!
Browser
IE 8 is preferred, but use FireFox sometimes
Other Info
Linksys Routers, switches, & Hubs
Too Many USB Flash Drives to count, Biggest is 64GB !
Eight computers in my home network.
Sixteen computers at my business network.
Linked via TeamViewer !
Lots of old used spare computer parts everywhere!
I only have roughly 250-300$ to spend. And I know it won't be blow your ass back, nasty, 1500$ fast but that CPU @ 3.8 Ghz quad core would def. blow away my 1.4Ghz dual in the laptop yeah?

Or which of these would you recommend for a budget setup? Best bang for the buck-

https://pcpartpicker.com/parts/cpu/#sort=a8

I believe whichever I get it will smoke what I currently have. I do all the aforementioned (Photoshop, illustrator, rendering) on this dual core 1.4 Ghz laptop. It has definitely developed my patience because it takes a decent chunk of time, but I make it work haha. So, that AMD processor would be much better yeah?
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
AMD Dual-Core E1-1200 Accelerated Processor
Motherboard
Chipset: AMD K12 IMC Southbridge: AMD A55/A60M
Memory
DDR3 - 6gb
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics
Hard Drives
500gb HDD
Antivirus
Malware Bytes Pro
Browser
Chrome / Mozilla
As Layback Bear states, your intended purposes for a new PC do not match up with an extremely low budget.

$300 absolute max including tax and shipping is very tough for a new PC build of any type, depending on which of the following components you need to buy:

Case; figure 25 for a cheap one
Motherboard; figure 70 for a cheap one
CPU; figure 100 on up if you want current generation stuff
RAM; figure 40 for 4 GB of DDR3
Power supply; figure 30 for a tolerable one, probably with a rebate; possibly a Corsair CX430

Those 5 parts are likely to crowd $300 and exclude any of the following you might need:

Video card
DVD drive; 15
Operating system (your laptop license is likely not transferable to a new build); maybe 80 for OEM Win 7
Keyboard
Monitor
Mouse
Case fans; maybe $10 each if not provided with your case
CPU cooler; you'd need this if you buy an OEM CPU without cooler

In your situation, I would consider the following:

Don't build; buy pre-assembled; it's very difficult to beat pre-built machines at the 400 and under level, particularly if you need an operating system license

Save more money

Look at the used market; there's a lot of used PCs from $250 to $300 on Craigslist Phoenix and Tucson.

Look at Dell outlet store

Sign up for email promo offers from Newegg and Tiger Direct in hopes you can catch a pre-built machine on sale. You might have to wait months for a decent deal, but I'd think that would be preferable to spending $300 on a self-built machine.

A mid-level 5 or 6 year old Core 2 Duo machine (say an E6600) would like be better than what you have now, but I don't know how much luck you would have trying to build one from scratch using new components---not sure the motherboards are still available? But this would be a good choice if you can find a used one, already built, with Windows 7.
 
Last edited:

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
Try if this fits on your budget:

1. EVGA 02G-P3-3733-KR GeForce GT 730 2GB 64-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 Low Profile Ready Video Card

EVGA 02G-P3-3733-KR GeForce GT 730 2GB 64-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 Low Profile Ready Video Card - Newegg.com

or

2.EVGA 01G-P4-3743-KR GeForce GT 740 Superclocked 1GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Video Card

EVGA 01G-P4-3743-KR GeForce GT 740 Superclocked 1GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Video Card - Newegg.com

Try to remove ATi Radeon HD 5450 and NVIDIA GeForce GT 610 (aka GT 520) in your choices because it might bottleneck your processor.



 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ASUS X550ZE
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-BIT
CPU
AMD A8 7200P
Motherboard
N/A
Memory
8GB 1600mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon R5 (APU) + Radeon R5 M230 2GB Dual Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek ALC269 with SonicMaster
Monitor(s) Displays
Laptop Display
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 @60hz
Hard Drives
WDC WD50 00LPVX-80V0TT0 (500GB)
PSU
Laptop Charger
Mouse
ARMAGGEDON TEXTRON SCORPION 7
Internet Speed
100 mbps DOWN / 50 mbps UP
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
Mozzila FireFox, Valve Steam in-game internet browser
I only have roughly 250-300$ to spend.

I highly suggest watching this video if at least so you'll have a basic idea what kind of computer you're going to be able to buy at that price range. Please understand, a computer at $250~300 is about as low as you can get no matter which way you slice the pie, so expect and plan accordingly.

 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
N/A (custom-built)
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i7 2700K @ 3.5GHz (TurboBoost disabled)
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3
Memory
16GB (4x4GB) Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600MHz @ 1333MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio (motherboard integrated)
Monitor(s) Displays
NEC Multisync EX231W
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 @ 60Hz via DVI-D
Hard Drives
2x Western Digital 1TB SATA3 Caviar Black Internal HDD // 1x WD 500GB USB 3.0 "My Passport Essential" External HDD // 1x WD 1TB USB 3.0 "My Passport Essential" External HDD // 2x WD 2TB USB 3.0 "My Passport Essential" External HDD
PSU
Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850
Case
Antec 300
Cooling
Air-cooling
Keyboard
Steelseries 6Gv2
Mouse
Steelseries Sensei RAW Glossy, Logitech M500
Internet Speed
DSL (AT&T)
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser
Pale Moon, Mozilla Firefox 12, Opera 12, Chromium, IE9
Other Info
Virtual Machines (VirtualBox):
* Japanese Windows XP Professional SP3
* Japanese Windows 7 Professional SP1
Well.. Wanna see what I got? :)
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
AMD Dual-Core E1-1200 Accelerated Processor
Motherboard
Chipset: AMD K12 IMC Southbridge: AMD A55/A60M
Memory
DDR3 - 6gb
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics
Hard Drives
500gb HDD
Antivirus
Malware Bytes Pro
Browser
Chrome / Mozilla

Attachments

  • We_Want_pitures.gif
    We_Want_pitures.gif
    1.6 KB · Views: 23

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Built them myself, Science Experiments !
OS
Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
CPU
AMD fx8350 4ghz, AMD-32 2400mhz, AMD-64 3200mhz, AMDx64 2.8G
Motherboard
SIS 755, ECS-K8M890M-M (Ult 7600), GigaByte & others
Memory
2gb, 4gb on the Ult 7600, 4gb on Technet RTM, 32gb on FX8350
Graphics Card(s)
Draw my own Graphics, several nVidia cards
Sound Card
on motherboard
Monitor(s) Displays
19" flat scr, 28" I-Inc widescr,22" Emprex Widescr, 23" Acer
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024, 1440 x 900, 1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
6 pata Ide HD's & 2 Sata HD's
added 80gb external on Ult 7600 computer,
numerous extra 1tb, 2TB, 3Tb SATA HD's
A collection of ext HD Docks w/ HDs
PSU
430w, 550w, 600w, 700, 800, etc
Case
All Generic Full Towers
Cooling
Open Air & a few fans, some w/ colored LEDs
Keyboard
Compaq & Dell recycled from GoodWill
Mouse
Made in China Optical Wired Mouse
Internet Speed
Fast Cable InterNet
Antivirus
AVG Free on 24 different Desktops, NO Problems!
Browser
IE 8 is preferred, but use FireFox sometimes
Other Info
Linksys Routers, switches, & Hubs
Too Many USB Flash Drives to count, Biggest is 64GB !
Eight computers in my home network.
Sixteen computers at my business network.
Linked via TeamViewer !
Lots of old used spare computer parts everywhere!
Intel Q6600 core2 quad 2.4 ghz.
6gb corsair ram.
Windows 7.
Cpu cooler.
Nvidia GTX 660. :D
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
AMD Dual-Core E1-1200 Accelerated Processor
Motherboard
Chipset: AMD K12 IMC Southbridge: AMD A55/A60M
Memory
DDR3 - 6gb
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics
Hard Drives
500gb HDD
Antivirus
Malware Bytes Pro
Browser
Chrome / Mozilla
Back
Top