Any Vapers?

[essenbe]

It makes a big difference. If you order the Deadly Sin, I think you will see, it's 50/50.

 

[Wishmaster]

yea that ratio makes a big difference.
I may have mentioned it earlier in the thread, but I'll repost it.

VG - This gives the juice a sweetness and will produces lots of big thick clouds. Its a thick liquid, and by itself provides very little to no throat hit. Very smooth vape.
PG - This is what gives you the throat hit and carries most of the flavors. Very thin, but doesn't really produce much vapor at all. It can be too harsh to some people by itself.

Combining the 2 is how most E-juices are made. You just have to find what you like.

I like 50/50 blends myself. Decent throat hit, but smooth. Right in the middle, you get the best of both.

As mentioned, most of Volcanos are high in PG. I want to say its 70PG/30VG but may be more like 80/20. They do have some good flavors, but you may find some to be harsh. they are on the high PG side of things, that much I know. And there's alot of vapers out there that like that.

After you've been vaping a while and experience different blends, you'll instantly know when a juice is using high PG. Especially if you vape a lot of 50/50 or higher VG blends. Hard to explain but you just know its high on the PG side from taste and texture alone..

Also, although the mix will impact the strength of the throat hit, or hashness, the flavor itself can have a small impact. Aand, the Nicotine level will add some throat hit too.
So if we compare the exact same juice (flavor/blend) being used, at 24mg vs say 18mg, the 24 will have a slighty heavier throat hit.

I'd say 18 is a great place to start. You can vape a bit more if you need to. But, if you still get those Nic cravings, just move up to 24 for a bit and try to work back down gradually.

 

[SIW2]

I have lost track of this.

What is a PG/VG ratio. No idea what pg or vg mean.

 

[Wishmaster]

An Ejuice is made of a combination of 4 liquids.
1) Nicotine
2) PG (Propelyne Glycol)
3) VG (Vegetable Glycerin)
4) Flavor Concentrate

The Nicotine and Flavor Concentrates are typically in a PG Base, so they count as PG.
So technically, you only have the 2, PG and VG.


The PG/VG ratio would be the total percentage of each that making up the juice.

 

[essenbe]

They are simply mediums to carry the Nicotine and the flavors PG id Propylene Glycerin and VG is Vegetable Glycol. But, they have effects on taste throat hit and mouth hit. Wishmaster can give the technical jargon if he will. I've already told you more than I know, but it makes a big difference in taste.

 

[derekimo]

yea that ratio makes a big difference.
I may have mentioned it earlier in the thread, but I'll repost it.

VG - This gives the juice a sweetness and will produces lots of big thick clouds. Its a thick liquid, and by itself provides very little to no throat hit. Very smooth vape.
PG - This is what gives you the throat hit and carries most of the flavors. Very thin, but doesn't really produce much vapor at all. It can be too harsh to some people by itself.

Combining the 2 is how most E-juices are made. You just have to find what you like.

I like 50/50 blends myself. Decent throat hit, but smooth. Right in the middle, you get the best of both.

As mentioned, most of Volcanos are high in PG. I want to say its 70PG/30VG but may be more like 80/20. They do have some good flavors, but you may find some to be harsh. they are on the high PG side of things, that much I know. And there's alot of vapers out there that like that.

After you've been vaping a while and experience different blends, you'll instantly know when a juice is using high PG. Especially if you vape a lot of 50/50 or higher VG blends. Hard to explain but you just know its high on the PG side from taste and texture alone..

Also, although the mix will impact the strength of the throat hit, or hashness, the flavor itself can have a small impact. Aand, the Nicotine level will add some throat hit too.
So if we compare the exact same juice (flavor/blend) being used, at 24mg vs say 18mg, the 24 will have a slighty heavier throat hit.

I'd say 18 is a great place to start. You can vape a bit more if you need to. But, if you still get those Nic cravings, just move up to 24 for a bit and try to work back down gradually.

Thanks, I thought you mentioned this before, I didn't pay much attention to it though.

Thanks for reposting it.

I was looking at this last night,

How to Choose the Right E-Liquid | Cig Buyer.com

 

[ThrashZone]

Good read Derek

 

[Wishmaster]

That's a good article, thanks for the link.

And I like the point about flavors .. "Just because you really enjoy coffee, doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll enjoy vaping coffee flavors."

This sis so true. I'm a heavy coffee drinker and love it, yet every coffee flavor I've tried has been blah. Same with Cherry. Haven't found one I really like yet. Working on mixing my own though.
And licorice, I hate but good as a vape.

At any count thats got very good info.
I learned the hard way (by mixing my own juices) that its not all equal. taste wise a bad PG/VG blend gives a wierd ... I don't know how to put it but starchy taste to everything. bad nic adds a peppery taste for example. My flavors were just blah. Ranging from hardly any taste to just horrid.

I started using Wizard Labs to get my stuff and thier Nic, PG, VG is very clean. Huge difference.
1st batch was wonderful too.

Of course Im talking DIY but if a Vendor is using bad stuff, I could see the same stuff happening there too.


EDIT:
Just got my Russian 91% I think it looks pretty good


It's identical to the Kayfun with 2 minor differences I've noticed so far.
1) The 510 connection is adjustable. On the kayfun you can't adjust it without making the postive post on the build deck loose. On the Russian that shaft is in 2 pieces. On the bottom you can adjust the screw to raise or lower the 510 connection for a snug fit on any mod if needed. I had to lengthen it a tad for the Provari because it wasn't making contact and not firing out of the box.
This is usually not an issue. The main reason is if you want to tank to fit flush with the mod.

2) Airflow adjustment is on the side, at the bottom instead of on the bottom like the Kayfun. So you can adjust the airflow without removing it from the mod. It also allow for a slightly airier draw than a Kayfun will. Although I like mine tighter so set it to match the Kayfun.


Otherwise they are just alike. Great build quality and vape/flavor pretty much identical.
The airflow isnt really a issue for me as I though the Kayfun was dead on perfect anyway, since Im a mouth to lung hitter. But, the adjustable 510 is really nice. So, this may be my new favorite RTA.

 

[essenbe]

Has everyone given up on this thread? I hope it keeps going, there is some good info here. I finally got my MVP2, and so far like it much better. It seems the variable voltage makes a big difference, to me anyway. To some, it probably wouldn't matter.

 

[derekimo]

Sounds like you're making progress Steve, good on you. I may end up with one of those myself but for now I'm doing good on the inferno.

Still no cigarettes, 10 days now. Just got my order from volcano, the chocolate isn't too bad. Still waiting on the deadly sin to get here.

I haven't forgot about this thread Steve, I'm in it for the long haul now.

 

[essenbe]

Good to hear Derek, very well done. My results are not as good as yours, but I am doing better. So, maybe it's heading in the right direction anyway. You'll like the Deadly Sin, I think.

 

[derekimo]

I notice my vaping habits slightly changing, I'm a mouth to lung hitter like Jessie, (Wasn't sure how to label that before) and I seem to be double hitting occasionally to get a bigger cloud.

Looking forward to trying that deadly sin. I haven't made it to that shop across town yet, my car is in the shop right now. I miss my old truck when it comes to repairs.

 

[Wishmaster]

Glad everything s working out but sorry you had issues with the Inferno essenbe.

The variables are pretty nice though if only for the fact you can really tune them exactly to your preference. Whether that be cooler, warmer, more clouds less clouds etc.
You'll find many flavors react differently too under different voltages.


I've been vaping a homemade brew this evening. Peanut Butter with slight bit of chocolate.
Pretty Tasty and a nice change of pace! Was pretty happy with how good this one turned out. Have to make more of this one!

I had 3 I mixed that just weren't all that good right after making them. So they've been sitting a week in the closet. This often helps the flavors mature.
1 ended up pretty good.
The other two however, I didn't think could possibly get any worse, steep time had to make them at least a little better.
But I was proven wrong. It was a traumatic experience.

The Good news is i now have extra 2 empty bottles to make something for.

 

[derekimo]

Peanut butter and chocolate sounds good, I got some reeses in the frig right now.

That milk chocolate from volcano is pretty good, it's the only other flavor I've tried so far.

I almost got the coffee one but after your comment about how coffees tasted I'm glad I didn't.

 

[ThrashZone]

Blu's Java jolt is my favorite,
Wonder if it's similar ?

 

[Wishmaster]

Peanut butter and chocolate sounds good, I got some reeses in the frig right now.

That milk chocolate from volcano is pretty good, it's the only other flavor I've tried so far.

I almost got the coffee one but after your comment about how coffees tasted I'm glad I didn't.

I love coffee but haven't found one yet that was good. Still looking,.

Volcano had one that was pretty good but had one major issue that made it a no go for me.
It would gunk up a coil in a matter of hours. So that good coffee taste became a burnt nasty taste after an hour and a ruined coil.
Although I suppose if using a rebuildable you could simply do a dryburn/rewick and would be OK. But you'd be doing it too often.

I haven't tried many for other vendors coffee flavored though, but will resume that search as I would love one.
But yea. No go with Coffee and Volcano sadly. At least for me.

 

[ThrashZone]

Can't be gunking up the coils
What's a good combo to not gunk them up ?

 

[paulpicks21]

Special delivery just arrived!

Aspire Nautilus Mini, 5 spare BVC 1.8ohm coils and 180ml of different flavor juices.

I have just loaded the tank up with some Vanilla custard. Giving it 10 mins to soak in and then it's time to vape this badboy lol.

My thoughts on it to come..

 

[z3r010]

I bet you are spending more on all this kit than you were on tobacco :sarc:

 

[paulpicks21]

The new stuff I got will last at least 5 weeks.

So the total spend so far including all the kit and juices is around 195, that's for 2 people. I don't expect to buy any new kit now.
I estimate the juice to cost around 30 per month.

Before the vaping the monthly cost for both of us was around 220