Shutting down into Hibernate takes more then 3 minutes....

[supervinnie40]

Hi there,

I just re-installed my Windows 7, and I noticed that shutting the laptop down into Hibernate (which I actively have been using for the last 3 years orso) suddenly takes more then 3 minutes.

I have installed all the previous drivers and only a handful of the previous programs. I also have re-installed my laptop several times in the last years (because I like a clean computer ).

I use Boostspeed 8.0 to clean the laptop and it's Tweak Manager to improve the performance of Windows 7.
This has always helped me in the past to make Windows perform even better then normal.
I set the virtual memory file to 0 in the registry, turned of "using your harddrive as a bit of RAM", turned off all the graphic effects (like aero and such) and have very selectively turned off a few services and set other to manual.
I emptied the line-up at startup in msconfig, set the "choose which OS to boot up" to 1 sec.

I also read a few of Blinks topic on how to improve startup and shutdown.

Starting up takes about 20 to 30 seconds. Which is good in my opinion. But turning the laptop off takes a good 3 minutes. Sometimes even 4 minutes.
When I first discovered Hibernate, it only needed 20 seconds to shut down. But after a re-install I probably did something wrong, and it took much longer. I've played with it long enough, time to ask the guru's for some help. So here I am.
I use my laptop mainly to surf the web and to read mail. But every now and then I also intensively use Photoshop, Illustrator, Videostudio and a few programs like this.
I always shut down these "memory-eating" programs before going into Hibernate though.

I think I'm forgetting something somewhere, but I just can't seem to find it.
Hopefully I can figure this out with your help.

My laptop is an Acer Aspire 7740G (the only hardware upgrade is 2x 4GB DDR3 RAM)
My main programs are:
Google Chrome
Live Mail
Google Drive
Photoshop
Illustrator
Corel Videostudio
Windows own file-explorer
Daemon tools

I don't have any games or things like Netflix/Spotify etc.


Cheers, Vinnie.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Hello and welcome Vinnie first up run these I know you have down a clean install - that isn't to say it went ticketyboo

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1538-sfc-scannow-command-system-file-checker.html

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/433-disk-check.html< if necessary include the /f and /r in the command line as per Option2 >in safe mode if need be
From a personal point I don't like those add on tweaking and performance type programs as you can do exactly th same with stuff from this site see this
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/11728-optimize-windows-7-a.html (see point 22 for shutting down problems) & this http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/818-disk-cleanup-open-use.html
CCleaner if you don't have it already https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download < always download it from this site I don't like the mirror ones too many annoying add ons but you can stop those with Unchecky - Keeps your checkboxes clear

 

[supervinnie40]

Thanks for the reply. I'm at work now but I'll try all the tops once I get home.

The advantage of Boostspeed is that I don't need it to run in the background. Just quickly do the tweaks and then close the program again.
I also have ccleaner which I run about once a month.

To be honest I think it's just a setting somewhere that I forgot, but we'll see after some testing.

 

[supervinnie40]

just run the sfc scannow thing (thanks to teamviewer). it says i couldnt find anything. i also didnt find a way to use /f or /r in the command.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Ok mate just run the chkdsk as admin (right clcik) and see my pic as to put what where and how.

The rest you know

Oh in the pic I should have said type Y then hit enter and then type Exit in the command prompt

Sorry to open command prompt > Start > type cmd a blue box will open > right click Run as admin the little black box will appear typein it what I have and follow the instructions

 

[supervinnie40]

Hi,

I started the test earlier today, but it only just finished. I used a defragmantation tool to defrag the disk first. Then did the CHKDSK thing.

It found nothing. (I took a photo, but then I realised that I'm Dutch and you probably can't read Dutch haha).

After a restart I pressed the power button, and going into hibernate still took 3.5 minutes. So way to long.

I'm now gonna take a look at the register again to check out that AutoEndTask etc.

 

[GokAy]

You can go over Power Options and Sleep Mode Problems perhaps. Maybe it will help with your case too.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

As Gokhan says mate worth a look before mucking around in the registry.

 

[supervinnie40]

Just went over every step.... all was already the same as my settings...

 

[GokAy]

Have you shutdown the PC normally recently? Shutdown and remove PC from power for a couple of minutes just in case.

Make sure your clean startup is as described (disable everything non-MS as a diagnostic) in http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...ation-conflicts-performing-clean-startup.html.

Can you spot anything in Event Viewer?

 

[ICIT2LOL]

I am going with Gokhan again mate only I would go as far as removing the machine from the power supply overnight because the PSU can retain quite a bit of power for some time.
Personally I would shut down unplug - power on and leave overnight - then plug in next day and power up but that choice is yours.

 

[supervinnie40]

Haven't tried your first tip. Gonna do that now, and see if it makes a difference.

The weird thing is, startup is fine. It's quick.
It's just going into hibernation.

Can you elaborate on the Event Viewer?

 

[GokAy]

Win+R then enter: eventvwr.msc

Check Application and System for any events that have been logged during a hibernation attempt.

 

[supervinnie40]

Well, I've turned the laptop off (normal total shut down, no sleep or hibernation). Then took the charger off and took the battery out. I then left it for 2 hours.
Put everything back in it's place and turned on the laptop.

Startup was normal.

As soon as I thought the laptop was ready, I pressed the power button (without doing anything in windows at all), and it went into hibernation (and power-off) within 20 seconds.
I was happily surprised. So I turned the laptop back on and opened my e-mail program and Google Chrome to check my Facebook.
After about 15 minutes of using the laptop I wanted to enjoy the 20 seconds shut-off again, so I pressed the power button.
It took 4 minutes for the computer to turn off.....

So I turned the laptop completely off again (didn't take the battery or charger out) and started it up again.
As soon as I saw my desktop, I pressed the power button.
And again, the laptop went into hibernation within 20 seconds.

I then started the laptop back up, and just surfed through my hard disk (just using the file explorer, doing nothing... just hopping from folder to folder). I also opened notepad and opened 1 image from my photoalbum
Just to mimic small usage of the pc.
I then pressed the power button again, and it took a solid 3 minutes again to power down into hibernation.

So, the way it looks, it seems that it has the possibility to shut down quickly, but after using the computer something causes it to need a lot of time to turn off.

I checked the programs that start up with windows, and they where all up and running when I experienced the 20 second turn-off the first time.
For the record; those programs are:

Google Drive
MS security essentials
Mouse driver (need that...)
Teamviewer
Objectdock (it's a program that gives you icons at the top of the screen that allow you to quickly open certain programs/folders)
Catalyst Control Center (for my videocard)

(I checked if everything was updated before I wrote this post)

 

[GokAy]

It may be some app/service that has a delayed start or some scheduled task. Try the clean startup nevertheless. This is a diagnostic step and may help in understanding what is causing the delay.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Look my two cents worth again and it might nit do anything but in msconfig screen I uncheck everything in the Start tab and in the Boot tab even the Advanced options.
If you are worried about the mouse try using a cheap wired mouse to try.

 

[GokAy]

Mouse will work when its software is disabled but it will lose some functionality. Good enough for testing purposes.

 

[Layback Bear]

Do you do a install of Enterprise as your system specs indicate?

If you did, have you contacted your I.T. department about this problem?

 

[supervinnie40]

Look my two cents worth again and it might nit do anything but in msconfig screen I uncheck everything in the Start tab and in the Boot tab even the Advanced options.
If you are worried about the mouse try using a cheap wired mouse to try.

I'll give that a try.

Mouse will work when its software is disabled but it will lose some functionality. Good enough for testing purposes.

I got myself a cheap 2 bucks wired mouse just to be sure

Do you do a install of Enterprise as your system specs indicate?

If you did, have you contacted your I.T. department about this problem?

IT department? This is my own personal laptop. I installed Enterprise because I could get it for a good deal, no other reason than that . Win 7 came on my laptop when I bought it anyway (and I didn't like win 10).

 

[supervinnie40]

It may be some app/service that has a delayed start or some scheduled task. Try the clean startup nevertheless. This is a diagnostic step and may help in understanding what is causing the delay.

Did the clean startup, but no difference. I removed all services that where not MS.