Has Support Ended on Windows 7?

RhinoCan

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I thought I heard something the other day to the effect that support on Windows 7 has either stopped already or is about to stop in the near future? Is that correct? If so, what date are they giving?

Also, am I correct in believing that when they drop support they will also immediately stop all updates, including security patches?
 

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Windows 7

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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
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from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
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Has support ended on W7? Not if you count KBs for hidden telemetry tasks, pushing W10, and making W7 less secure. ;)
 

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Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit
Microsoft doesn't want to stop updating Windows 7. How else would they sneak in their W-10 telemetry and other W-10 B/S.
 

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Home made Desktop
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Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
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Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
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ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
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Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
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EVGA GTX 1070 OC
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Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
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INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
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EVGA Platium 1200W
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Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
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Das 4 Professional
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Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
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Full support for Win 7 has ended. That means no more new or improved features and no more nonsecurity related bug fixes. However, extended support, which was supposed to be for security related flaws only, will continue to 01/14/2020. Unfortunately, since last year, M$py has also been including "get Win 10" related updates and spyware (the "telemetry" updates).
 

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Custom Build
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Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
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Intel i7-3930K
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ASUS P9X79 WS
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Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
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MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
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Asus Xonar Essence STX
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3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
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1920 x 1080, ?
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Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
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Corsair HX750w
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Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
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Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
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Logitech G510s
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Logitech M525 (two in use)
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=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
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AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
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IE11
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We can only wish for that day :)
 

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Custom assembled by me :}
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Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
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i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
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ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
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Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
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Built-in Realtek
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EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
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Custom water loops
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Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
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2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
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Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
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Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
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FireFox & Pale moon
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Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
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Intel Core i3-2120 3.30Ghz
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Asus P8Z68-V LX Intel Z68 Socket H2 ATX
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Kingston 4 GB DDR3 1333 mhz
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AMD Radeon HD6670
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Sound Blaster Audigy SE 24-Bit
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Asus VE228
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1440 X 900
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OCZ Vertex 3 120 GB Sata 3 SSD ==
Kingston SH103/S3 120 G Hyper X 120 GB SSD ==
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Corsair CX600M == 600 Watt
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NZXT Apollo - Silver with Clear Side Panel
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Three 120 mm Fans
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Microsoft Natural 4000
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Microsoft Custom Optical 3000
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AT&T Fiber Optic Wireless Network
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Microsoft Security Essentials
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Chrome
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120 mm Blue LED Fan -- Three Blue LED Lazer Light Sticks
Here are all the dates:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/search/default.aspx?alpha=windows 7

It is good that there are no more updates. That means no more new bugs.

Is it wise at this point to stop all updates? This would eliminate the Win 10 Update problem. Any thoughts?

No, it would not be wise to stop all updates since most are actual security updates that patch security holes. Sadly, continuing to receive updates will require extreme scrutiny from now on to avoid the telemetry and Win 10 upgrade related updates. I wait at least four days before downloading and installing an update to allow time for reports of problem updates to surface.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
To give an alternate opinion, I have stopped updating and so have others here (recently discussed in another thread). All major bugs and security flaws have long since been patched. But I do use Sandboxie and not an AV, so my system is not vulnerable to (present or future) viruses that might exploit potential remaining bugs. However, even if I used an AV, AFAIC the biggest threat to my system at this time are the MS updates. So I would not update anymore, regardless (unless I ran into a specific issue and Googled/found the specific fix/patch for it). JMO, YMMV.
 

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OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit
windows 7 reached end of mainstream support march 2015, so only security updates now, and an occasional hotfix for a specific problem. but in all fairness, even using updates until eoms, i found 7 stable enough.

That's where I sit with the original Windows 8. It works well and now no more updates.
 

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HP xw8600 Workstation
OS
Windows 8 Pro x64
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Two Xeon Core2 Quad 3.2 GHz Processors
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Proprietary
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16 GB DDR2 800 MHz
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nVidia Quadro FX 3800 PCI
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Realtek HD Audio
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Samsung SyncMaster 213T 21" 4x3 Flat Screen
Screen Resolution
1600x1200
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Two Seagate Cheetah 300 GB SAS Disks
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Proprietary
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HP xw8600 Workstation Case
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Two CPU Fans and a Larger Case Fan
Keyboard
PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
Microsoft USB Optical Mouse
Internet Speed
7 mbps
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
Firefox ESR 102
Other Info
Two LSI 3000 SAS Adapters
... But I do use Sandboxie and not an AV, so my system is not vulnerable to (present or future) viruses that might exploit potential remaining bugs.

Does Sandboxie impact performance at all (how about system startup, program loading, etc)? Is there a free implementation?
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP xw8600 Workstation
OS
Windows 8 Pro x64
CPU
Two Xeon Core2 Quad 3.2 GHz Processors
Motherboard
Proprietary
Memory
16 GB DDR2 800 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
nVidia Quadro FX 3800 PCI
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 213T 21" 4x3 Flat Screen
Screen Resolution
1600x1200
Hard Drives
Two Seagate Cheetah 300 GB SAS Disks
PSU
Proprietary
Case
HP xw8600 Workstation Case
Cooling
Two CPU Fans and a Larger Case Fan
Keyboard
PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
Microsoft USB Optical Mouse
Internet Speed
7 mbps
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
Firefox ESR 102
Other Info
Two LSI 3000 SAS Adapters
... But I do use Sandboxie and not an AV, so my system is not vulnerable to (present or future) viruses that might exploit potential remaining bugs.

Does Sandboxie impact performance at all (how about system startup, program loading, etc)? Is there a free implementation?

Sandboxie does not impact performance and uses very few resources. Your system will most likely run FASTER with SBIE b/c you can dump any real-time AV, and the AV is what slows boot and system performance.

SBIE is free to use but not all extended features are enabled without a license, however they are more features of convenience. For example, with the free version you can right-click on any .exe (program) and run it in the sandbox. But the paid version allows you to set certain programs to always run in the sandbox, automatically. It also allows you to permanently set ports like the USBs to run inside the sandbox. Which can be handy for family computers with kids that have lots of exposure to unknowns. So the paid features aren't really vital for most, but some might find them handy.

When you install SBIE it makes a new shortcut on your desktop to start your browser, which runs the browser inside the sandbox. (After 30 days you will get a 30-sec nag at the start of each new browser session to get a lic.)

You can config SBIE to delete the sandbox at the end of each session, or make it persist between sessions. Some people choose to have the sandbox persist if they want to actually install a program inside the sandbox and use the program from there. (For readers who don't know, a sandbox is a recreation of system folders and files so programs running inside the sandbox 'think' they are running on the system, but they aren't. They are running in a self-contained environment, safely separate from the actual system.)

You can still run your browser outside the sandbox by using the normal shortcut, but you shouldn't unless you are installing browser add-ons, or doing some other update to the browser itself. If you update the browser inside the sandbox the update won't be saved [assuming the sb is config'd to be deleted at the end of each session]. But you can config certain functions within the browser to ALWAYS operate outside the sandbox, such as bookmarks, history, and tab sessions. That way those stick between sessions and don't pose a threat, so it's just more convenient.

With SBIE the only time you really need an AV is to manually scan a file on-demand. For example if you want to download a freeware program, SBIE will offer you the choice to "recover" it from the sandbox once the download has completed. SBIE does not scan files to see if they are safe, so it is up to the user to be diligent about what you transfer from the sandbox to the computer. Once saved to the desktop, you can scan the file with an on-demand scanner before using it, if you aren't sure of its authenticity.

If you like SBIE, the best thing about considering a lic is it's a lifetime license and only costs $15, IIRC; removes the 30-sec nag, and enables some extra features.

FTR I am completely unaffiliated with Sandboxie. Just a really happy user. It is SO nice to not have a real-time AV running, and to know I am 100% safe from Internet threats, unlike when I was using an AV. On top of that, the machine is much faster. But it's an older laptop now. For ppl running super-fast state-of-the-art hardware, they might not feel the impact of their real-time AV anyway.
 

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OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit
Hmmm maybe I could go back to Windows XP x64 Edition, run an older x64 build of Pale Moon that can still render modern web pages, and used Sandboxie ... lol
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP xw8600 Workstation
OS
Windows 8 Pro x64
CPU
Two Xeon Core2 Quad 3.2 GHz Processors
Motherboard
Proprietary
Memory
16 GB DDR2 800 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
nVidia Quadro FX 3800 PCI
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 213T 21" 4x3 Flat Screen
Screen Resolution
1600x1200
Hard Drives
Two Seagate Cheetah 300 GB SAS Disks
PSU
Proprietary
Case
HP xw8600 Workstation Case
Cooling
Two CPU Fans and a Larger Case Fan
Keyboard
PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
Microsoft USB Optical Mouse
Internet Speed
7 mbps
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
Firefox ESR 102
Other Info
Two LSI 3000 SAS Adapters
Hmmm maybe I could go back to Windows XP x64 Edition, run an older x64 build of Pale Moon that can still render modern web pages, and used Sandboxie ... lol

If you prefer XP, by all means. ;) (It was a nifty little OS. Long after installing W7 on my primary machine, XP remained on my secondary laptop.) But W7 eventually prevailed on all machines. In the long run, I like it better, yet have nothing but affection for good ole XP.

EDIT: And whether kidding or not, yes XP would be perfectly safe using Sandboxie.
 
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