Computer won't boot properly after reverting from Windows 10

PJR

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Hello. The problem is with my parents' computer. Their computer was upgraded some time ago from XP to Windows 7 (it can still boot into XP if needs be). They recently agreed to me upgrading it to Windows 10, but didn't like it, and wanted me to return it to Windows 7. This was within the 30-day period, so that option was taken. However, the reversion to Windows 7 failed. Part way through the boot process, it will fail by simply starting the reboot over again.

It CAN boot into safe mode, including with networks. And I've used msconfig to turn on and off about every option I can find, but I can't find out what is stopping it booting properly.

I've tried the option for it to repair itself, but to no avail (it can't find anything wrong). They couldn't find (probably never had) their Windows 7 installation disk, but I've downloaded the iso from Microsoft, burnt it to a DVD, and tried using that to repair it, but still no good (just to be clear, I haven't tried a fresh installation). I have managed to get their printer working in safe mode.

In order to retain their settings, I really don't want to have to do a fresh installation. I'd rather find out what's wrong and fix it.

How can I find out what's causing the problem so that I can fix it?
 

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Windows 7 home premium 32 bit
I also wonder why windows 7 is broken after downgrading from windows 10.. guess microsoft isn't too happy about people downgrading. i tried it several times, even on clean installs of windows 7, but it never downgraded without major errors and driver issues. one more reason i never installed windows 10 on any important system.
I guess your best bet to get rid of the windows 10 residue is to do a clean install of windows 7, after you backed up every importand file and program data.
 

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Hello and welcome PJR mate check this out first http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/219533-troubleshooting-windows-7-failure-boot.html but I personally am of the opinion you will need to do a clean install because it smacks of 10 remnants being left behind and I always do a wipe of the drive not just a format before installing an OS.

Having said that my preference is to clone the original drive and use the clone for whatever you are going to try with the system ie a dual boot upgrading etc and if it fails then you just swap out the clone and replace the original drive back in but that is just me.

Now just what settings are you referring to on that machine?? or do you mean data?
 

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As I understood it is booting Win 7 on safe mode and can also boot Win XP.
First of all, boot Win 7 on safe mode and backup all the user data.
Try to open device manager to see if a driver is missing. Win 7 must be using a Win 10 drive, that's why it doesn't boot normally.
Do you have the Win 7 key?
You can also try to "upgrade" to same Win 7 installation. Boot on safe mode and launch the Win 7 installation setup. Choose install - update and it will reinstall win 7 and will keep all installed programs and user data.
 

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You can also try to "upgrade" to same Win 7 installation. Boot on safe mode and launch the Win 7 installation setup. Choose install - update and it will reinstall win 7 and will keep all installed programs and user data.
you can't do an upgrade from safe mode
 

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CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9
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Gainward GeForce GTX 580 1536MB Phantom
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OCZ Agility 3 120GB
Western Digital Caviar Green 2 TB WD20EARS
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Norton AV
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Firefox
I agree with Megahertz but personally I would be sticking in a new drive and if you have the key get an ISO for the version of Windows you have and just clean install it then transfer any data over from the old drive. It goes before saying only have the new drive in when you do that.

The ISO can be got from here Microsoft Windows and Office ISO Download Tool <no bloatware and you only need to make a bootable DVD (I prefer a disk) or USB stick.
 

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Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
OS
Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
I'm a great fan of Clean Install.
You can learn a lot trying to fix a installed Windows:
- How difficult it can be to fix simple things as Windows Update that don't work.
- At the end, you're going to find out that you spent much more time to fix it than if you did a clean install.
 

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  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    custom build
    OS
    Windows 7 HP 64
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
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    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus Q550LF
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro
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    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
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    Asus Q550LF
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    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
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    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
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    Realtek
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    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs +
    1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
I'm a great fan of Clean Install.
You can learn a lot trying to fix a installed Windows:
- How difficult it can be to fix simple things as Windows Update that don't work.
- At the end, you're going to find out that you spent much more time to fix it than if you did a clean install.
:ditto:
Me too frankly the whole issue around updates right now has me wondering what is going on because if you were to research any updates that were not particularly clear you can spend a lot of time tearing your hair out and frankly I have better things to do.
Any data can be retrieved after the install from the drive the OS was originally on.
 

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Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
I'm a great fan of Clean Install.
You can learn a lot trying to fix a installed Windows:
- How difficult it can be to fix simple things as Windows Update that don't work.
- At the end, you're going to find out that you spent much more time to fix it than if you did a clean install.

I've never seen a clean install of windows without a bunch of errors in event log.
fixing those, plus tweaking windows to my liking, installing all my programs and preferences, restoring backups, getting everything updated and the way i had it running before, can take me a week or more.
and there are still the usual files and settings that i forgot to include in a simple backup, so i end up restoring full backups to get ,for example my firefox passwords, back again, make new backups, install again... ...

(--I need Internet Explorer to upgrade windows update, but IE (7?) on a fresh install is outdated, you have to update IE through windows update first... lol. bless Mozilla for firefox portable..)

i would only recommend a clean install as a last resort. after a major infection, or f:confused:cked up registry, (or in this case, with probably a lot of driver and registry issues).
Finding a fixes for issues requires a bit of learning, and a lot of time, but saves you a lot of trouble.
keep the clean install for the big spring cleaning. but always keep good backups!
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom build
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
i7 2600k
Motherboard
GA Z68X-UD4-B3
Memory
CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9
Graphics Card(s)
Gainward GeForce GTX 580 1536MB Phantom
Hard Drives
OCZ Agility 3 120GB
Western Digital Caviar Green 2 TB WD20EARS
Western Digital Caviar Green 2 TB WD20EARS
Antivirus
Norton AV
Browser
Firefox
Myself only because I can afford it after a clean nstall and th updates are pretty well finished clone the drive to a smaller one thne just keep imaging. Then it is only a matter of swapping out the wrecked OS and straing with the clone and gettting the data onto it form the messed up drive.
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
OS
Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
Id install the OS on C,
run everything else on D, back up D then copy it across after the clean install.

On a further point, IE will be taken out as a pre-requisite to install updates shortly, alledgedly this month.


Roy
 

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medionl/Aspire 6930G/acer x55a
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I just did a Clean Install of Windows 7.

I.E. 8 would not upgrade to I.E. 10 or 11.
I could not get Windows 7 Updates with I.E. 8.
Using I.E. 8 I downloaded Firefox and use it to download I.E. 11.
Installing I.E. 11 was one of the steps I had to do to get Windows 7 updates to work properly.

I don't know if this helps everybody but it did help me.

Jack
 

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EVGA GTX 1070 OC
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INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
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Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
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XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
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Das 4 Professional
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