Why I am reverting to W7

Robint

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I recently had the shattering experience of a hdd failure (4yr old m/c going 24/7), after all my years that was a first. I was surprised to discover at my local tech shop that 80% of his work is hdd crashes

Well I guess you all know the scenario and the tech was able to retrieve most of my data and reinstall my OS (8.1) onto a new hdd. Now I go 100+hrs reinstalling my app etc:cry::cry:

OK Im not here to whinge, I should have done more backups yada yada.

But what has really floored me is that there is no way for the home guy to back up his 8.1 system (not data) and restore it to a new hdd (on the same m/c). My tech guy confirmed this as he uses a business backup tp suite. Sounds incredible? You would never know till it happens to you

So I spent hours googling this only to conclude that the subject is littered with 99% crap (selling tp solutions etc and just plain bs - eg not differentiating between data and system, big giveaway

My solution follows the tech guy that I take my m/c to his shop and get him to do a system back up onto my usb hdd which he can then restore whenever using his tp set up - £50 done inc restore fee. Sounds like a con - I dont think he is that kind of guy and wouldnt be in business after 15yrs. I reason that this bu is only done say once/year and stored in a safe place as I dont install much new s/w

I survived my downtime by cranking up my old faithfull xp m/c (20yrs). This got me thinking about W 7, a stage I never went through but noted it has widespread user base (ca 50%) much to the fury of M$

So I got me a newish W7 HP tower and its a slicker version of xp innit. Of course it contains all the system image and restore disc utilities built in and seems easy (is it?) and its not bloatware and you have the control and can block all the annoying interference from M$

So after that preamble (hope it wasnt too boring) what I want to ask, are there any nasties with W7 (I learnt to live with and love xp - bit like an olf Ford Anglia, you could fix it with a few spanners.

Does the back up system do what you expect in the event of a total hdd failure. Can I reboot into a new hdd:geek:
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
hp
OS
w7 sp1 64b hp
Windows 7 is the best OS ever made :)

Whenever I`ve tried to image to a different drive with Windows built in imaging, it didn`t work, it always looks for the original drive.

Use Macrium Reflect instead.
 

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Skylake Special #666
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If you had an old Ford Anglia you'd have no time to play with your computer.....and you'd need lots of spanners........and lots of time!! :doh:
 

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Self built
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Windows 7 home premium 64bit
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intel Core i7 4790 3.6Ghz
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Gigabyte H97-D3H
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16Gb G.Skill Sniper
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Nvidia GTX 760
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Realtek ALC1150 115dB SNR HD Audio
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LG 32" TV as monitor
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1920 x 1080
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Samsung 840 PRO series SATA3 256Gb SSD.
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If you had an old Ford Anglia you'd have no time to play with your computer.....and you'd need lots of spanners........and lots of time!! :doh:

:ditto: :roflmao:
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self built using existing case
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
CPU
Intel i5 3570 3.4Ghz Ivy Bridge SKT 1155 quad core
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z77-HD3 SKT 1155 2xSata 3, 4x USB 3.0
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G-Skill Rip Jaws 16Gb (8x2) DDR3 -1600 PC3 12800 CL 10 red
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Gigabyte NVIDIA GT610 1Gb DDR3 810/1200 PCI-E 2.0 Silent
Sound Card
NVIDIA High Definition & Realtech High Definition Audio
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2 x Philips 226V4L 16:9 aspect ratio
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 HD
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Samsung 840 Pro 256gb SSD, SATA 3.
Hitachi Touro Portable 1tb, USB 3.0 HDD used for image b/ups.
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Corsair VS450
Case
Codeng
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PSU fan & CPU fan
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Logitech
Mouse
Logitech Wireless trackball M570
Internet Speed
Wireless 3G. 3mg down & 550kb up.
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Bitdefender Internet Security 2020
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Opera (Current Version) & Firefox
Other Info
MS Office 2013 Pro. Davis weather station software. MGE Nova 600 avr UPS.
But what has really floored me is that there is no way for the home guy to back up his 8.1 system (not data) and restore it to a new hdd (on the same m/c). My tech guy confirmed this as he uses a business backup tp suite. Sounds incredible? You would never know till it happens to you
Sorry, but that is completely false - Macrium Reflect is the tool to do the job. If your tech guy doesn't know that, then its time to change tech guys.

Search our tutorials for a comprehensive guide to using Macrium.
 

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Golden Mk. I.4
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64 ; Xubuntu x64
CPU
Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz O/C'ed to 4.0GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13
Memory
16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24)
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB
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Realtek Integrated
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Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS
Screen Resolution
1920*1080 and 1920*1080
Hard Drives
1*Samsung 840 EVO 120GB SSD;
1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
1*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB;
2*Western Digital 1TB External USB 3.0
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0
PSU
Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W
Case
Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z
Cooling
Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans
Keyboard
Logitech G110
Mouse
Logitech MX518
You don't know when you leave a PC for backup in a shop if anyone is stealing all your data. Did he give you a disk to boot from to restore your PC if not he is just making money out of you as you would have to take it back to restore more money. You can use MR and do backups weekly at no cost
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
win 8 32 bit
Windows 7 is the absolute LAST Win OS we will use PERIOD.
Still using XP, 2003 Server with no problems whatsoever and even have an ancient 2000 system that will no doubt outlast me.
When all these and W7 is no longer possible, it's Linux all the way. Believe me, I'll never look back.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ASUS - Home Built
OS
Win 7 Pro 32bit - XP & W2K3 Server - Linux
CPU
i7
Motherboard
Intel
Memory
16 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon HD 7800 Series
Sound Card
Asus Xonar
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus
Hard Drives
SSD - Samsung EVO 1 TB + WD 2 TB x 4
PSU
EVGA G3 1000
Case
Thermaltake Level 10 GT
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Lots
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Logitech
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MX Master 3
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1GB
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Never
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Pale Moon & Ungoogled Chromium, Brave etc.
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    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
Sorry, but that is completely false - Macrium Reflect is the tool to do the job. If your tech guy doesn't know that, then its time to change tech guys.

Search our tutorials for a comprehensive guide to using Macrium.
Golden is correct. Macrium is very good.
But [imho] an even better solution for that is from Terabyte Unlimited: Bare Metal.
Best tool for imaging, transferring etc. we've ever come across in over 27 years of doing this.
Far smaller footprint than Macrium and seemingly faster. It's also far more powerful for what you can do.
Even better is to supplement it with Image for Linux and Image for Windows.

Some of the 'old timers' out there may recall the incredible BootItNG?
We were using that eons ago. It was fantastic and way before it's time.
Bare Metal is the later evolved version.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ASUS - Home Built
OS
Win 7 Pro 32bit - XP & W2K3 Server - Linux
CPU
i7
Motherboard
Intel
Memory
16 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon HD 7800 Series
Sound Card
Asus Xonar
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus
Hard Drives
SSD - Samsung EVO 1 TB + WD 2 TB x 4
PSU
EVGA G3 1000
Case
Thermaltake Level 10 GT
Cooling
Lots
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
MX Master 3
Internet Speed
1GB
Antivirus
Never
Browser
Pale Moon & Ungoogled Chromium, Brave etc.
Other Info
I thank you for this impressive forum
My wife's laptop is Windows 8.1 64-bit. I have used Macrium Reflect Free to successfully backup and restore her hard drive. I used an external 1TB USB hard drive to do the backup.

there is no way for the home guy to back up his 8.1 system (not data) and restore it to a new hdd (on the same m/c). My tech guy confirmed this as he uses a business backup tp suite.

If your tech guy told you that a "home guy" can't back up and restore his 8.1 system, I think you need to find a new tech guy.
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
CPU
Haswell
Memory
4 GB
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 23"
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Two hard drives, 1TB each: One for Linux, one for my data.
Keyboard
IBM Model M
Antivirus
Sophos (Linux), Trend Micro (Windows)
Browser
Firefox, Opera
Other Info
I use Samba to share my data drive with the other computers at my house and with my guest session in VMWare Workstation Player.
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