Windows 7, another step backwards

[MacGyvr]

Requesting that this thread be closed as solved. Seems a moot point now.

 

[Johnston7]

Requesting that this thread be closed as solved. Seems a moot point now.

Huh, I still need help

 

[Snufffed]

Oh well. There's actually no reason to use Win7 or Vista if you're happy with XP. There's a learning curb to any new OS, just like XP when it came out.

I think this hit the nail on the head. IT TAKES A LEARNING CURVE TO LEARN a new OS. That is what so many people do not have...
even you they have a step by step how to do...
they come back an excuse is I do not understand what you write.
OK, write it down your self...
excuse
No, I do not feel like it... it is just too hard.
(PS: this is my oldest son (age 43) and middle son (age 41) reaction).

All I can say "If you have a learning disability thats OK stay with XP.--they do take after their mom. )
Me, I'm the geeky type.

 

[MacGyvr]

Requesting that this thread be closed as solved. Seems a moot point now.

Huh, I still need help

The title of the thread does not suggest a request for help, merely a complaint or statement which has been argued to death.

 

[kanehi]

I wonder if Windows 7 for dummies is out.

 

[Johnston7]

kanehi, I don't see you offering help.

On start up the explorer window appears every time. Despite not being in start up folder.

Any ideas as you seem to be an expert.?

 

[Barman58]

When the explorer window appears what is actually shown? - what folder is showing in the explorer window? what is on any message that appears?

 

[Johnston7]

its a window with five folders. (at the mo i am trying my third reinstall and using my vista laptop).

library
pictures library
documents
etc

it can be removed by clicking the X easy enough, but it is doing my head in.

my other issue is live mail. can't find 'send and receive'.

 

[JCP21]

Only problem i have found with windows 7, is whenever i right click on recycle bin, i get windows has stopped responding, other than that i like it

 

[Barman58]

OK what I use for start up investigations is an application called Autoruns (LINK).

This is a quite complex program but shows all the items that start hidden with windows

If you download and run this program there is a Logon tab that shows every process that starts with the computer. I would look for a duplication of the explorer process.

If you wish there is an option to save the data in a file in .arn format - if you save zip this up and post it here using the papercip icon I will take a look for you and see if I can trace the problem

 

[Johnston7]

Barman, with respect, I haven't a clue what you meant there.

But once my pc has reinstalled the dreaded 7 I will try it.


XP was never this complicated.

 

[Johnston7]

Barman, just clicked on that link on my laptop and after hitting download was confronted with 4 folders.

What do I do?

 

[Barman58]

All you need to do is run the Autoruns.exe program and there is a save icon on the toolbar which will save the file in a readable format

 

[ripbox]

Just wait until there will be no updates/support for XP (i don't know when that will happen tho lol)

I hear some time back now mid to late 2008 then M$ would stop technical support for XP and approximately 1 year after that day there will be no more updates or service packs (this was an in source by a IT technician at a company i worked for) but this is not top say my information is correct

 

[Barman58]

As far as I am aware Windows XP has already entered into the final stage of support which means that only security updates will be produced and free support from Microsoft has ended. Anyone wanting support is expected to pay on the per incident rate

 

[noyb]

...only security updates will be produced ...

That's all I need .. It isn't broke now .. And I'm not going to try to fix it.

I just wish they'd quit trying to shove SP3 at me.
I did that once .. And had to fix it.

 

[Sylver Cheetah 53]

Win7 is just like Vista, but with more drivers. Win XP is far more easy to use and it let you take full advantage of your RAM.
Win7 is just another failure by Microsoft.

 

[Creer]

Win7 is just like Vista, but with more drivers. Win XP is far more easy to use and it let you take full advantage of your RAM.
Win7 is just another failure by Microsoft.

Windows Vista introduced new memory management, now in Windows 7 it is more polished/improved. It's true that with Windows XP you have more 'free' RAM but hey... why do buy 1GB/2GB or even more RAM if it is completely unused? If you feel better with this then OK.

Personally, first time when I switched from Windows XP to Windows 7 - I noticed very huge improvements in RAM area (I don't care that Windows XP used after fresh install ~300MB RAM, and Windows 7 ~460MB of RAM) I mean every single app now starts very quickly comparing to Windows XP - and yes it is because of RAM management. You buy RAM to use it not to observe how much 'free' RAM you have right now. I would say more - even when my system reached 99% Psyhical memory usage - it was still responsible, and I had not any problems to use them - when under XP I had hang out/lags or BSOD.

 

[Barman58]

If you look at XP, one of the popular 3rd party software add ons was the memory manager.
So people were paying for something that is now in the OS - and of course when it comes to understanding the memory management needs of the OS the people best qualified to understand the requirements are the developers who designed the OS.

 

[H2SO4]

Win7 is just like Vista, but with more drivers. Win XP is far more easy to use and it let you take full advantage of your RAM.
Win7 is just another failure by Microsoft.

Windows Vista introduced new memory management, now Windows 7 it is more polished/improved. It's true that with Windows XP you have more 'free' RAM but hey... why do buy 1GB/2GB or even more RAM if it is completely unused? If you feel better with this then OK.

Personally, first time when I switched from Windows XP to Windows 7 - I noticed very huge improvements in RAM area (I don't care that Windows XP used after fresh install ~300MB RAM, and Windows 7 ~460MB of RAM) I mean every single app now starts very quickly comparing to Windows XP - and yes it is because of RAM management. You buy RAM to use it not to observe how much 'free' RAM you have right now. I would say more - even when my system reach 99% Psyhical memory usage - it was still responsible, and I had not any problems to use them - when under XP I had hang out/lags or BSOD.

For what it's worth, XP also had a caching mechanism which kept its so-called "Available" memory populated, but it wasn't predictive - it was detritus which had been "trimmed" from process working sets due to inactivity.

XP's Task Manager didn't actually show a "Free" counter at all - only the "Available" memory which was largely composed of what Vista/W7 call the "cache". Hence, what probably bothers Mr. Cheetah is the more accurate reporting.