is it bad to turn off user account control?

[Tepid]

(as Help desk loves less problems)

Only to a marginal extent. Remember, for us, problems equal job security.
We just don't always like the same problems 5+ times in a row.

 

[AbletonUser]

Different UAC settings/levels for different user accounts?

This is a bit off-topic, but it pertains to Windows 7 UAC and user accounts, and I haven't been able to find an answer anywhere else to what seems like a basic question, so I'm hoping someone here can help me:

I have Windows 7 and I use Ableton Live 7, which doesn't officially support Windows 7 but will run fine IF UAC is turned off. Therefore, I created a separate user profile for Ableton use (both of my user profiles have Admin privileges).

I disabled UAC for my Ableton user profile, but this also turned UAC off for my regular user profile, which, for reasons already stated on this thread, I don't want to do.

My question is: Is it possible to set UAC at one level for one user profile, and turn it off entirely for another?

 

[Tepid]

No,, UAC is an all or nothing setting.

 

[MrBrian]

I have Windows 7 and I use Ableton Live 7, which doesn't officially support Windows 7 but will run fine IF UAC is turned off. Therefore, I created a separate user profile for Ableton use (both of my user profiles have Admin privileges).

Does Ableton Live 7 work when run elevated?

 

[AbletonUser]

"Does Ableton Live 7 work when run elevated?"

Not sure what you mean by "run elevated." When UAC is set to anything but "off," Ableton Live 7 will run, but it's very laggy, the audio is patchy, and the program crashes easily.

The solution (for me) was to turn UAC completely off, change the properties of Ableton to run in Vista Service Pack 2 mode, and to disable "multicore support" in Ableton preferences. It works fine now (but I'm still worried about turning UAC off...guess I'll just have to be careful about what sites I visit/programs I install).

 

[MrBrian]

Not sure what you mean by "run elevated."

Turn on UAC. In properties of Ableton's .exe in Windows Explorer, check "Run this program as an administrator".

 

[pacman10]

You know. One of the things that people complained about the most was how Not Secure XP was.
Then they (MS) implement something that actually does make the OS more secure, and be more like linux in how is handles the way applications run, and people turn it off. It's not a smart move.

No, UAC should not be turned off
Yes, you should run as a user and not as an admin

Turning off UAC and running as admin are just not a smart thing to do.
Regardless of how safe you think you are when running Your system, blah blah blah.

It's just my opinion, yeah, but it's the right one.

Amen to that ! Give this man 10 bonus points.

I might add that one purpose of the UAC warning message is to alert the user if a program is unexpectedly activated. For example, if you have been chugging along editing a Word document for an hour and suddenly, out of the blue, a message pops up asking you whether some program or other may start then you should want to know what that program is. It might, for example, be malware which was programmed to activate itself at a given time.

If you don't give a hoot about the security of your system then turn UAC off. If you do care then leave it on. It's as simple as that.

Paddy

 

[BrightBlessings]

Also it's invaluable when you've lost your glasses.

 

[Chris K]

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No, UAC should not be turned off
Yes, you should run as a user and not as an admin

It's just my opinion, yeah, but it's the right one.

If you're running as user (as would always recommend) then you're already pretty bullet proof and for sure UAC is totally redundant

that's not my opinion - it's a fact

 

[Jaxryley]

Would anyone like to run a sample of the rogue Security Tool to test UAC at the highest setting and or a LUA/Standard User account?

The rogue exe is fairly well known by most AV/AMs now but it's not about testing detections it's about seeing how UAC/Limited/Standard user accounts handle it.

Of course if your not geared up for testing then DON'T!!!

hxxp://rapidshare.com/files/403216229/Security_Tool.zip

 

[zzz2496]

UAC is not the same as Linux user-land, so we can't really compare both of them apple to apple, LUA is a bit closer to Linux user-land, but still differ in many ways...

pacman10, once the malware is in your system, UAC won't show any warning... because obviously it's already running... There are a lot of threads in here about virus or malware infections, none of them show any UAC warning other than apps that are started manually...

zzz2496

 

[chev65]

I'm with zzz on this, UAC = false sense of security. Same with A/V software for that matter.

 

[Tepid]

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No, UAC should not be turned off
Yes, you should run as a user and not as an admin

It's just my opinion, yeah, but it's the right one.

If you're running as user (as would always recommend) then you're already pretty bullet proof and for sure UAC is totally redundant

that's not my opinion - it's a fact

No, not entirely fact. Yes, it is better than running full admin,, but there are things that get disabled with UAC disabled, You need to do more research.

I'm with zzz on this, UAC = false sense of security. Same with A/V software for that matter.

This is also incredibly false.


But this is a dead horse turning to goo.

 

[pparks1]

I'm with zzz on this, UAC = false sense of security. Same with A/V software for that matter.

And so are closing doors and locking them on your house.

 

[MrBrian]

Another reason to use UAC: because of UAC prompts, one may be alerted to the presence of malware that wants admin privileges, which may spur one to initiate an on-demand malware scan - the malware may otherwise have gone unnoticed and continued to do bad things.

 

[jsmoline]

Personally, I like it. At first it was a pain in the neck. Then, after reading a bit, I decided that I liked a pop up asking me, Do you want to allow this program to make changes to your computer? I also like having to run all of my tools, defrag, start up manager, crap cleaner etc. as admin. No one else can get in and change anything. I'm not on the anti MS- bandwagon.

 

[Chris K]

Personally, I like it. .. I liked a pop up .. I also like having to run all of my tools..as admin.... ... I'm not on the anti MS- bandwagon.

Ergo anyone that doesn't like UAC is merely "on the anti MS- bandwagon" - there couldn't possibly be any other reason

Cha

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[jsmoline]

I think there could be lots of reasons. Mine is just another opinion. We all have em'