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Windows 7: Can't partition unalloted space

19 Jan 2010   #1
kumaramesh

Windows 7 32 bit
 
 
Can't partition unalloted space

I am a novice (well,almost). I recently upgraded to Windows 7 from Vista on my Dell Inspiron 11z and used the Dell Upgrade Disks for it. But I went into the advance tabs, repartitioned the disk and performed a clean install so that I could get two partitions instead of the default one which my Dell Inspiron 11z came with. To put it simply, I wanted a main partition for my programs, and one more partition for storing data.
I don't know where I went wrong, but I now have 4 partitions: one with Windows 7, and three more recovery and system partitions (I'm guessing one of the recovery partitions is for Vista courtesy Dell, while the other two were created during the upgrade). Two of these four show up in My Computer (primary and recovery). And I also have unalloted space in place of the second partition I created (or so I thought). See the attached screenshot.
The problem is that I get a warning if I try to create a new simple volume on it, which says something about converting the basic disk to a dynamic disk. See screenshot 2.
Some basic research revealed that I can only have only up to 4 basic disks, and therefore the warning box.
My question: It is safe for me to just make the unalloted space into a dynamic disk and let the recovery partitions remain as they are? As I mentioned, I just need the new partition for storing files and not for installing another OS.
If not, then should I delete one of the system or recovery partitions so that I do not exceed the limit of four basic disks? Which one is the safest to delete? I don't really intend to roll back to Vista, but don't mind keeping it since space is not really a concern.




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19 Jan 2010   #2
Minotar

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Hi and welcome to SevenForums,

What i would advise is this.
Download Partiton Wizard Home Edition and Boot Disc (Burn and keep the boot disc,very handy to have)
Free Download Partition Wizard

Now open PW Home Edition.
Right click on Recovery(: D) and click delete.Click Apply
Your 15GB should now be added to the other Unallocated space.
If not,right click your 15GB of Unallocated space and click Move/Resize and drag it over beside your other unallocated Space.Click Apply

Now Right click on the Unallocated Space and click Create
Make it a primary Partition and NTFS and give it a label (i.e Data) Click Apply
Right click your new partition>Modify>Mark as Active
Please Click Apply when i say above,its important.Apply is on the top left and bottom left of the screen.

Job done.

I wouldnt delete the OEM partition as it probably has the Dell Recovery options and if you delete it ,it may void your warranty.
Your Recovery partiton has very little data on it,hence why i think it is best ot delete it.
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19 Jan 2010   #3
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Reading from left to right on your partition map in disk management:

39 mb OEM: created by Dell for support of some kind. May be needed for warranty or support, but not needed by Windows 7.

Recovery D: You would use this if you wanted to go back to Vista. May pertain to your warranty also—if you had problems and called Dell, they might tell you to go back to Vista at least temporarily and if you did not have this partition, you may not be able to comply unless you had separate DVD recovery disks.

System reserved 100 mb: Created by Windows 7 install. Used primarily to help with Windows 7 system recovery, but it is not needed if you have access to a Windows 7 disk. Most people have it and just ignore it.

C: this is Windows 7. Most people would make this 40 to 60 gigs rather than 29.

188.20 unallocated. This is not yet part of any partition, but could easily be added to C if desired. It cannot be easily added to any other partition unless you use certain free third party tools (Paragon, Partition Wizard, etc)

I would get this down to no more than 4 partitions and avoid dynamic disks.

If this machine is out of warranty and support from Dell or you don’t care about either of those things, you can eliminate all that stuff to the left of C with third party tools.

Another possibility is to simply reinstall 7. Depending on what kind of disks you have from Dell, you may be able to dive into that now, or you may have to first restore to Vista. Certain people on this forum can help with that.

So—decide on these issues:

Do you care about Dell warranty or support?

Are you willing to give up on Vista entirely?

Would you consider a reinstall of Windows 7 or do you dread having to reinstall your programs etc?

Are you willing to get involved with third party programs such as recommended by Minotar? If you do this, you may not have to reinstall at all.
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19 Jan 2010   #4
Minotar

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
Reading from left to right on your partition map in disk management:

Recovery D: You would use this if you wanted to go back to Vista. May pertain to your warranty also—if you had problems and called Dell, they might tell you to go back to Vista at least temporarily and if you did not have this partition, you may not be able to comply unless you had separate DVD recovery disks.
I could be wrong,but i doubt that is infact a back up of vista,as i t has less than 1GB used of space?
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19 Jan 2010   #5
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Minotar:

I don't think it is a direct backup either--Vista would obviously occupy more than 1 gig. I'd guess whatever is in it can be used to make DVDs which can then be used to restore Vista. Haven't had a Dell in a long time or ever had a PC with a partition like that, but that is my understanding of how they work.

I could be wrong and not for the first time.

Assuming discs can be made from it, I'd guess it could then be deleted and not disqualify the user from any Dell support or warranty?
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19 Jan 2010   #6
Minotar

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
Minotar:

I don't think it is a direct backup either--Vista would obviously occupy more than 1 gig. I'd guess whatever is in it can be used to make DVDs which can then be used to restore Vista. Haven't had a Dell in a long time or ever had a PC with a partition like that, but that is my understanding of how they work.

I could be wrong and not for the first time.
True,perhaps an exploration of the partition could explain


I could be wrong and not for the first time
Nor for myself,but we learn what we can and move on
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19 Jan 2010   #7
theog

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

ME/XP/Vista/Win7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post

So—decide on these issues:

Do you care about Dell warranty or support?

Are you willing to give up on Vista entirely?

Would you consider a reinstall of Windows 7 or do you dread having to reinstall your programs etc?

Are you willing to get involved with third party programs such as recommended by Minotar? If you do this, you may not have to reinstall at all.
Once you have decided on these issues, there will be some here to help.
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20 Jan 2010   #8
kumaramesh

Windows 7 32 bit
 
 

Thank you for all the replies, and my apologies for the delay in writing back. To answer your questions:

1. Yes I do care about Dell support because the notebook is just a three months old.
2. Yes I am willing to give up on Vista entirely. I have the Windows 7 installation disks.
3. I rather not reinstall Windows 7 if that can be managed.
4. I can use third party programs, and had in fact tried EASEUS Partition Master which would not allow me to create another partition on the unallocated space, and wouldn't tell me why. Which is when I posted this thread.

To sum it up, I don't mind losing D or any other partition that would not void the Dell support. I have already got into trouble with them because they refused to help me with webcam drivers for my notebook since I had performed a clean install. Its working through Skype though, which is enough for me. But this also means that I don't know if I really have the support any more.
D has a handful of folders named Dell, Program Files, Sources, Tools, Users and Windows. I can easily burn them to a disk if needed.

Thanks!
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20 Jan 2010   #9
Minotar

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kumaramesh View Post
Thank you for all the replies, and my apologies for the delay in writing back. To answer your questions:

1. Yes I do care about Dell support because the notebook is just a three months old.
2. Yes I am willing to give up on Vista entirely. I have the Windows 7 installation disks.
3. I rather not reinstall Windows 7 if that can be managed.
4. I can use third party programs, and had in fact tried EASEUS Partition Master which would not allow me to create another partition on the unallocated space, and wouldn't tell me why. Which is when I posted this thread.

To sum it up, I don't mind losing D or any other partition that would not void the Dell support. I have already got into trouble with them because they refused to help me with webcam drivers for my notebook since I had performed a clean install. Its working through Skype though, which is enough for me. But this also means that I don't know if I really have the support any more.
D has a handful of folders named Dell, Program Files, Sources, Tools, Users and Windows. I can easily burn them to a disk if needed.

Thanks!
Nice of them eh
If your willing to lose D i would follow my first post (post #2)

If your worried about having a back up ,you can use Paragon to make a back up disc,i've used it myself and had no errors to date.

Heres a link:
Free Backup Software: Paragon Backup & Recovery Free Edition - Overview
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20 Jan 2010   #10
theog

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

ME/XP/Vista/Win7
 
 

Backup first.

Then do a clean install with your Dell recovery DVD.
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