a request to this de device has been cancelled

[amoretam]

It mentions RAID in both my link and yours. Do you have the manual for the board?

ok attached is the raid configuration for this motherboard i believe..

i know i am the one who should read it, but i have never dealt with raid, (worst, i don,t even know exactly what it is) so here it is in case you are interested..
thanks

 

[F5ing]

It would be best if you could attach the whole manual if you could. I see where you would go to check the health of a RAID array, but not for the individual disks.

It also mentions something about Nvidia RAID software; you might check the Windows start menu to see if you've got something like that.

If you watch the flash of screens when you boot, do you see an extra screen flash by where you see RAID mentioned, before you see Windows starting?

Also, it may be beneficial if you could post some screenshots of your current BIOS screens. If you do this, you might want to disconnect that troublesome disk so that extra chkdsks can't run on it (although I think you would have the chance to cancel it if it did try, as there is usually a timeout period for about 10 seconds where you can press a key to skip the check).

And think about getting an extra drive for backups!

 

[amoretam]

It would be best if you could attach the whole manual if you could. I see where you would go to check the health of a RAID array, but not for the individual disks.

attached

It also mentions something about Nvidia RAID software; you might check the Windows start menu to see if you've got something like that.

no such software

If you watch the flash of screens when you boot, do you see an extra screen flash by where you see RAID mentioned, before you see Windows starting?

nothing

Also, it may be beneficial if you could post some screenshots of your current BIOS screens. If you do this, you might want to disconnect that troublesome disk so that extra chkdsks can't run on it (although I think you would have the chance to cancel it if it did try, as there is usually a timeout period for about 10 seconds where you can press a key to skip the check).

i will do bt its hard to setup a camera right now

And think about getting an extra drive for backups!

yes i need a good cheap 2tb drive for backups

thankss yesterday i gave up and went to bed

 

[F5ing]

That manual appears to be incomplete as well. Also appears it references a different BIOS manufacturer. Did you get multiple manuals for your board?

Are you overclocking? If so, you might want to disable that feature, at least until you get this resolved.

 

[amoretam]

That manual appears to be incomplete as well. Also appears it references a different BIOS manufacturer. Did you get multiple manuals for your board?

Are you overclocking? If so, you might want to disable that feature, at least until you get this resolved.

nop just that manual, I am not overclocking...

today got rid of unnecessary data on a FW hdd i have and tried backing up the problematic hdd but it was way slow, it was gonna take like 3 days or something..
so right now i cannot even backup the data even tough I have like a very slow response from that drive when i navigate in the folders..

Also event viewer is just saying "a request to this device........................" manny times

thanks, I am pretty sure the drive is good... it must be something chkdsk is not able to resolve..

Also when I connected the FW and ran WD lifeguard to write some zeros on it, I saw that SMART was available for the FW drive...

Thanks

 

[F5ing]

today got rid of unnecessary data on a FW hdd i have and tried backing up the problematic hdd but it was way slow, it was gonna take like 3 days or something..
so right now i cannot even backup the data even tough I have like a very slow response from that drive when i navigate in the folders..

Also event viewer is just saying "a request to this device........................" manny times

thanks, I am pretty sure the drive is good... it must be something chkdsk is not able to resolve..

Also when I connected the FW and ran WD lifeguard to write some zeros on it, I saw that SMART was available for the FW drive...

Thanks

FW = firewire?

I couldn't be sure whether the slow response is an issue with the filesystem (chkdsk) or the drive itself. As long as you currently have access to the drive it might be a good idea to go ahead and clone or image it. Easier to do now as you've cleared out some space on another drive.

When you clone it ignores the filesystem (ignores chkdsk issues) and just copies byte by byte, not caring about 'files'. So if it's slow during a clone operation you could then point to a drive issue over a file system (chkdsk) issue.

 

[amoretam]

today got rid of unnecessary data on a FW hdd i have and tried backing up the problematic hdd but it was way slow, it was gonna take like 3 days or something..
so right now i cannot even backup the data even tough I have like a very slow response from that drive when i navigate in the folders..

Also event viewer is just saying "a request to this device........................" manny times

thanks, I am pretty sure the drive is good... it must be something chkdsk is not able to resolve..

Also when I connected the FW and ran WD lifeguard to write some zeros on it, I saw that SMART was available for the FW drive...

Thanks

FW = firewire?

I couldn't be sure whether the slow response is an issue with the filesystem (chkdsk) or the drive itself. As long as you currently have access to the drive it might be a good idea to go ahead and clone or image it. Easier to do now as you've cleared out some space on another drive.

When you clone it ignores the filesystem (ignores chkdsk issues) and just copies byte by byte, not caring about 'files'. So if it's slow during a clone operation you could then point to a drive issue over a file system (chkdsk) issue.

......Now
I can't even have acceess to the drive. Yesterday I tried to do a backup to the FW (firewire) disk booting with Hiren's bood cd, but the drive would make this clocking (clicking) sound and the procedure froze up.


i want to at least be able to extract my data (back it up) and then write some zeros to the drive so I can start over.

I will try today again but I don't know about this clicking sound the drive makes.....

thanks

 

[amoretam]

an update.........chkdsk ran automatically while booting this time correcting MTF and booted fine and no slow response.

Right now I am copying files (backing up) to my external FW drive.
Speed was good (like 85MB/second) but right now (like 5 minutes later) is at 18.8MB/seconds.

I will let it copy (even if it takes 2 days) because i really need my data. Once it copies I am planning to run WD Lifeguard to write zeros to the drive and start over. Do you think that would correct any issues??

thanks alot

 

[TVeblen]

Writing all zeros will give you a nice clean drive and a brand new file table, and that will certainly correct any file formatting problems. If that does not correct the problem and make the drive usable at least it will eliminate that as a possible cause.

But wiping the drive will not correct any mechanical problem. If the drive is failing because the heads will not park or align then it will be time to put the drive to rest.

 

[amoretam]

Writing all zeros will give you a nice clean drive and a brand new file table, and that will certainly correct any file formatting problems. If that does not correct the problem and make the drive usable at least it will eliminate that as a possible cause.

But wiping the drive will not correct any mechanical problem. If the drive is failing because the heads will not park or align then it will be time to put the drive to rest.

ok thanks

transfer speed is now 17MB/seconds..

At that speed I believe is gonna take like 34 hours (remember is 907gb of data).

Do you think it is healthy to let these 2 hdd's transfer my data for so long?

 

[TVeblen]

I would say you have little choice. If the drive is failing then you are lucky to be able to transfer data at all.

Keep it going and hope it does not crap out on you in the middle of it. It may be the only chance you get.

 

[amoretam]

I would say you have little choice. If the drive is failing then you are lucky to be able to transfer data at all.

Keep it going and hope it does not crap out on you in the middle of it. It may be the only chance you get.

hey How are we doing?

ok, today all my data have been transfered and backed up, except some files which did not transfer with a message like: "This file is no longer located in D:........"

Strange, I could see the files (and all subfolders) but in properties they were 0kb in size.
Hopefully these file were not so significant.

Right now I ran WD Data Lifeguard and chose the option to WRITE ZEROS (quick erase option) and it's doing fine.
Hopefully this will get rid of the problem.

I still want to know why Data Lifeguard would not show SMART for my WD hdd's.

And also, something new that I discovered (and a little out of subject) is that my cpu fan does not respond to SMART fan target.
I mean when the cpu is getting hotter the fan would not speed up even though I have it setup for that in the BIOS...

If you guys could share some knowledge here I'd aprecciate it..
Thanks

 

[amoretam]

Ok , I am about to initialize the HDD, I have a couple of options here: MBR or GPT.
Searching the internet I found this:
Perhaps one of the biggest pitfalls of MBR-based disks is their potential for corruption of the partition table, a region on the disk that maps sectors to logical block numbers. MBR disks only have 1 partition table to keep track of all the blocks in the partition. If the table becomes corrupt, the entire disk must be recovered from backup. Windows GPT-based disks have multiple, redundant partition tables so that if one is detected as being corrupt, it can self-heal itself from a redundant copy of the table.

GPT vs MBR Disk Comparison

This is very interesting, this hdd had the partition corrupted I believe, so I am about to choose GPT to initialize my disk, What do you guys think?

Thanks

 

[TVeblen]

I have not played with GPT yet. So I have no opinion on that.

But I never like to create a new problem while I'm working out an old problem. So if it were me I would format MBR and then see if my problem was cleared. If it was then I would consider reformatting GPT.

Otherwise, if you do have problems (old or new) you will have to wonder if it is due to GPT or not.

As for fan speed issue: are you sure you have the CPU fan plugged into the correct header on the MB?

 

[amoretam]

I have not played with GPT yet. So I have no opinion on that.

But I never like to create a new problem while I'm working out an old problem. So if it were me I would format MBR and then see if my problem was cleared. If it was then I would consider reformatting GPT.

Otherwise, if you do have problems (old or new) you will have to wonder if it is due to GPT or not.

As for fan speed issue: are you sure you have the CPU fan plugged into the correct header on the MB?

of course...

 

[TVeblen]

If you are sure you have the wiring correct, the settings in the BIOS correct, and the observations are correct, then you are left with:

• A defective motherboard
• A corrupted BIOS.

The BIOS could be corrupted "out of the box", which means it requires a BIOS upgrade, or it could mean you simply need to reset the BIOS defaults or clear the CMOS to reset all.

 

[amoretam]

If you are sure you have the wiring correct, the settings in the BIOS correct, and the observations are correct, then you are left with:

• A defective motherboard
• A corrupted BIOS.

The BIOS could be corrupted "out of the box", which means it requires a BIOS upgrade, or it could mean you simply need to reset the BIOS defaults or clear the CMOS to reset all.

ok i will try upgrading the BIOS to see if that fixes the problem, thanks

 

[F5ing]

Ok , I am about to initialize the HDD, I have a couple of options here: MBR or GPT.
Searching the internet I found this:
Perhaps one of the biggest pitfalls of MBR-based disks is their potential for corruption of the partition table, a region on the disk that maps sectors to logical block numbers. MBR disks only have 1 partition table to keep track of all the blocks in the partition. If the table becomes corrupt, the entire disk must be recovered from backup. Windows GPT-based disks have multiple, redundant partition tables so that if one is detected as being corrupt, it can self-heal itself from a redundant copy of the table.

GPT vs MBR Disk Comparison

This is very interesting, this hdd had the partition corrupted I believe, so I am about to choose GPT to initialize my disk, What do you guys think?

Thanks

I don't think the issue was due to corruption of the partition table. There is not that much data there to corrupt (and if it was corrupt a 'chkdsk' would have no effect; you'd have to use other software to recover it). All it contains is the partition status, size, location and such, no file table. Your chkdsk results indicated a problem within the file table contained within the partition itself (and there is a backup copy of that anyway (also within the partition)).

The 'chkdsk' name is somewhat deceptive, it could be named a little more appropriate as 'chkvolume' or maybe 'chkpartition', as it really doesn't do a whole 'check disk'. It's only used to check/repair issues with the file system and space within a volume that's accessible and readable by Windows. It's been around for 25+ years as 'chkdsk' though so I doubt they'll change it anytime soon.

I have not played with GPT yet. So I have no opinion on that.

But I never like to create a new problem while I'm working out an old problem. So if it were me I would format MBR and then see if my problem was cleared. If it was then I would consider reformatting GPT.

Otherwise, if you do have problems (old or new) you will have to wonder if it is due to GPT or not.

Agree with TVeblen here as well, on all points. One more reason to consider going with MBR is the fact that it's been in use for years and I think it still is the predominant 'format' in use (so easiest to get help for). As GPT becomes more prominent due to disk size increases and a few other reasons the MBR format may eventually fade out. Not for quite awhile though.

I still want to know why Data Lifeguard would not show SMART for my WD hdd's.

You're not going to be able to access the drive's SMART feature unless the software can communicate directly with the drive. RAID hard/firmware can block that access and connecting the drive 'unconventionally' (eg, third party USB/SATA adapter) can block it.

 

[F5ing]

If you are sure you have the wiring correct, the settings in the BIOS correct, and the observations are correct, then you are left with:

• A defective motherboard
• A corrupted BIOS.

The BIOS could be corrupted "out of the box", which means it requires a BIOS upgrade, or it could mean you simply need to reset the BIOS defaults or clear the CMOS to reset all.

ok i will try upgrading the BIOS to see if that fixes the problem, thanks

Try the reset/clear first.